The Last Jedi Graflex Research - Spoilers inside!

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  1. Title

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  2. gullwing

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    Re: The Last Jedi Graflex missing rivets in the grips?

    The grips have no rivets or screws.
    And I also see thinner clamp box.

    I'm a little baffled.
     
  3. KhanVader

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    Re: The Last Jedi Graflex missing rivets in the grips?

    These promo pictures are never entirely accurate to whats in the film. Even more so with the box art on the toys. BUT that being said I think grips without rivets are cool, if only they had the slanted cuts like ANH. I always thought that looked slick.
     
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  4. Title

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    Re: The Last Jedi Graflex missing rivets in the grips?

    Promo pictures were pretty accurate for TFA, weren't they?

    Hopefully we'll get some clarification in a teaser or a trailer soon!
     
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  5. Mark P

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    Re: The Last Jedi Graflex missing rivets in the grips?

    Could also be a stunt variation. For TFA they often used one of the stunt sabers for promo pics with a lit blade. No way to know in any case since packaging pics like this are so heavily photoshopped.
     
  6. MCM

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    Re: The Last Jedi Graflex missing rivets in the grips?

    It could also be a stunt saber. Several TFA promo pics used stunt sabers, antennae sticking out and everything. I wouldn't jump the gun quite yet, although any excuse to make another Graflex saber is a welcome one :D
     
  7. SethS

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    Re: The Last Jedi Graflex missing rivets in the grips?

    Look at Rey's face. It's barely recognizable, which illustrates how heavily retouched this image is, and therefor, not trustworthy.

    As I said on FB: In my youth I was a designer. I did a lot of packaging. "That red dot bugs me, make it darker" is literally something an art director has said to me. Packaging is made by the product developers. They are given images they can use by the studio, and from there they do what they need to. This is clearly a photoshop assembly and the black button and no rivets could have been changed because the art director, who has nothing to do with the movie, thought they were distracting.

    That said, if it is representative, I dig on black buttons.
     
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  8. PropReplicator2

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    Re: The Last Jedi Graflex missing rivets in the grips?

    I was just thinking the same thing[emoji38] can't wait for this movie
     
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  9. halliwax

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    Re: The Last Jedi Graflex missing rivets in the grips?

    Beyond * right now....


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  10. halliwax

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    Re: The Last Jedi Graflex missing rivets in the grips?

    Exactly, this is why I'm nervous... really loved the TFA saber....


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  11. matty matt

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    Re: The Last Jedi Graflex missing rivets in the grips?

    I wouldn't put much stock into things like this. Wait for footage or stills from the film to see what it will really look like. This could be a stunt saber or an artist's interpretation for all we know.
     
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  12. Sundowner

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    Re: The Last Jedi Graflex missing rivets in the grips?

    Well now we have another version as an option to build. I'm sure some person who has made every version possible of the Graflex lightsaber will build a "Box art Graflex".
     
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  13. KhanVader

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    Re: The Last Jedi Graflex missing rivets in the grips?

    Ytsd1z.png No they weren't really, most of the time they used this stunt with the antenna at the bottom.
     

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  14. matty matt

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    Re: The Last Jedi Graflex missing rivets in the grips?

    Yeah, that's right. That antenna thing was scrutinized for months. Turned out to be nothing.
     
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  15. Title

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    Re: The Last Jedi Graflex missing rivets in the grips?

    That was used in the movie, though :)

    If it turns out even one version in the movie is missing the rivets, I'm sure as heck getting myself a replica. To me, that's significant enough to deserve a part of my collection :)
     
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  16. Sundowner

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    Re: The Last Jedi Graflex missing rivets in the grips?

    If they already made the hero, stunt, etc lightsabers props for TFA I dont see why they would make new hilts.
     
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  17. SethS

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    Re: The Last Jedi Graflex missing rivets in the grips?

    Different production design team.
     
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  18. Title

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    Re: The Last Jedi Graflex missing rivets in the grips?

    To be fair, that's how I feel about the stormtroopers too, but they changed those
     
  19. Toa Quarax

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    Re: The Last Jedi Graflex Research - Missing rivets in the grips?

    Does anyone know what's going on here?:

    jhjhbbjhjhbjbh.jpg imageedit_27_6434569366.gif
     
  20. halliwax

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    i just hope is photo editing mishaps.... god please be a photo mishap... please
     
  21. PropReplicator2

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    Re: The Last Jedi Graflex Research - Missing rivets in the grips?

    That's what was really bothering me: Those wierd holes on the clamp. I think since it's a promo saber it's probably just a little different than the hero's that will be used in the film. But I guess we won't know for sure until we at least get a trailer.
     
  22. SethS

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    Re: The Last Jedi Graflex Research - Missing rivets in the grips?

    What? You don't want your propOCD to Force you into buying another Graflex?!

    Don't count on it. It wasn't until the BluRay that we could get decent measurements and images of the TFA Graflex(es). And people are STILL arguing over rivets vs. hex heads vs. whatever.
     
  23. CT1138

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    Re: The Last Jedi Graflex Research - Missing rivets in the grips?

    Well, this is interesting. I wonder if they changed the design because that's what they've always done with these sabers, or if it really is just editing fudging.
     
  24. SethS

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    Re: The Last Jedi Graflex Research - Missing rivets in the grips?

    I'll wager my vintage Graflex this is nothing but retouching.
     
  25. PropReplicator2

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    I would take that bet if I didn't agree with you[emoji38]
     
  26. Sixth Element

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    Re: The Last Jedi Graflex Research - Missing rivets in the grips?

    Could be that Rey tinkered a bit to better fit the hilt to her Hands and fighting style..
    Don Mac.
     
  27. halliwax

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    i just get so upset over continuity issues with these * props! lol

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    this is the excuse i am going to use if the saber does appear to be changed
     
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    Re: The Last Jedi Graflex Research - Missing rivets in the grips?

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  29. CT1138

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    Re: The Last Jedi Graflex Research - Missing rivets in the grips?

    Yeah, it's just more to analyze and build! :D
     
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  30. James Kenobi 1138

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    Re: The Last Jedi Graflex Research - Missing rivets in the grips?

    Jeez the body isn't even cold and you guys are already fighting over the inheritance.

    it's just a toy box photo. An early concept photo for toys that aren't even out yet. The photo on that box is more photoshopped than a Cosmopolitan magizine cover.

    You guys kill me. I'll wait for trailers and actual movie footage.
     
  31. SethS

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    Re: The Last Jedi Graflex Research - Missing rivets in the grips?

    Which is exactly what I was saying!


    But when? If TLJ does indeed start with Rey handing it to Luke did she stop time to tinker with it?
     
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  32. jhazard

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    Re: The Last Jedi Graflex Research - Missing rivets in the grips?

    I notice the rivet thing right away, but the reflection took a while. I'm going with the art director/photoshopping scenario, probably not a real prop.

    [​IMG]

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  33. SethS

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    The crazy continuity change is that now the saber can turn a corner apparently.
     
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  35. elmo274

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    The Last Jedi Graflex Research - Missing rivets in the grips?

    Could always ask Rian on Twitter. He confirmed that the storm trooper design was tweaked over there

    Probs won't reply though.


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  36. Title

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    Re: The Last Jedi Graflex Research - Missing rivets in the grips?

    Tried that, but no response as expected :)
     
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  37. sworrubs

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    Re: The Last Jedi Graflex Research - Missing rivets in the grips?

    For what it's worth the packaging is almost certainly by Pilot Studio in Boston. They haven't 'claimed' it yet but they are responsible for basically every recentish Star Wars packaging design including TFA.
    They don't normally use photographs in their work - they are very, very good at photorealistic illustration i.e those images on the box possibly aren't actually (retouched) photographs at all. (But they do look an awful lot like photographs…)

    It might be still be 100% faithful to the reference they were given of course…

    You may be able to get some insight from someone like https://mobile.twitter.com/RockettBlue
    but I imagine they wont be allowed to say much/anything.
     
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  38. KhanVader

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    Re: The Last Jedi Graflex Research - Missing rivets in the grips?

    I wouldn't mind this, reminds me of the ROTJ shared stunt clamp. But I doubt its actually cut like that.
     
  39. kyrack

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    Re: The Last Jedi Graflex Research - Missing rivets in the grips?

    Just my two cents, I think it is one of the stunt sabers which was used in The Force Awakens. In the "announcement trailer" for The Last Jedi, the saber Rey was holding out to Luke looked to be the same as in The Force Awakens.
     
  40. Title

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    Re: The Last Jedi Graflex Research - Missing rivets in the grips?

    There wasn't a saber without rivets/screws seen anywhere in TFA, though

    The two that can be seen is the one with the fx saber with the antenna (might be more than one of these) and the soft stunt fx saber
     
  41. kyrack

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    Maybe it was the soft fx stunt cause I seem to remember, perhaps on the bluray featurette about the snow battle, seeing a stunt lightsaber with no rivet. I will have to check when I get home tonight.
     
  42. Kylash

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    Either way, it seems Luke doesnt want it back, lol
     
  43. DARTH SABER

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    Re: The Last Jedi Graflex Research - Missing rivets in the grips?

    So, another possible variant?

    (If I had a mustache id be twirling it and smiling)


    Im more excited to see what Lukes ROTJ saber looks like.
     
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    exactly :thumbsup
     
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  45. CT1138

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    Re: The Last Jedi Graflex Research - Missing rivets in the grips?

    Perhaps something like this?
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  46. DARTH SABER

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    Re: The Last Jedi Graflex Research - Missing rivets in the grips?

    Yeah i saw that shot. Im wondering why they didnt add an emitter hole and whether there are other differences.
     
  47. CT1138

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    It shall certainly be fun finding out! :D
     
  48. SethS

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    Re: The Last Jedi Graflex Research - Missing rivets in the grips?

    I decided I couldn't wait for confirmation.

    [​IMG]
     
  49. Title

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    Re: The Last Jedi Graflex Research - Missing rivets in the grips?

    The soft stunt fx saber doesn't have them, but it's not the one on the TLJ packaging

    6.jpg
     
  50. PropReplicator2

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    Or he was glad Rey inherited it:) this proving it is Luke's daughter[emoji3]
     

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