SSgt Burton
Sr Member
If everyone knows it is only a simulation?
So from a viewer’s perspective when ST:II opens with the Kobayashi Maru test, “we” don’t know it is a simulation. Everyone is dying and it looks like the ship is lost...
Until Kirk orders the viewscreen to open up and the lights to be turned back on.
So the point of the test is for a command track officer to experience extreme stress and even “death” and (I suppose) to see if they keep doing their job or have a mental breakdown.
But how is this supposed to be accomplished?
It would make sense if the Cadets were on the Enterprise and were told that they were underway on a training mission, only to encounter the distress call and the attacking Klingons (when in reality the ship never left Spacedock)...
But they aren’t even on the Enterprise! They are in a simulator room at Starfleet Academy!
After Saavik's Kobayashi test, Kirk exits the simulator to run into Spock in the hallway. After a brief conversation, Spock says he is headed to the Enterprise (proving the simulator is on Earth and doesn’t involve the Enterprise herself at all).
So how are you supposed to feel fear, if you know you are in a simulator room at the Academy and it isn’t an actual mission?
I don’t think they “blindfolded” the Cadets and told them they were being transported to the Enterprise (and snuck them into the simulator).
Not to mention the test itself has been around for decades (in the exact same form) gaining the reputation of the "no-win scenario." Wouldn't word get around the Academy?
I mean if you want to play an April Fool's joke on someone (which on a certain level the Kobayashi Maru test is), you don't let on that "it's not real" beforehand.
Just would like to hear other's take on this.
Kevin
So from a viewer’s perspective when ST:II opens with the Kobayashi Maru test, “we” don’t know it is a simulation. Everyone is dying and it looks like the ship is lost...
Until Kirk orders the viewscreen to open up and the lights to be turned back on.
So the point of the test is for a command track officer to experience extreme stress and even “death” and (I suppose) to see if they keep doing their job or have a mental breakdown.
But how is this supposed to be accomplished?
It would make sense if the Cadets were on the Enterprise and were told that they were underway on a training mission, only to encounter the distress call and the attacking Klingons (when in reality the ship never left Spacedock)...
But they aren’t even on the Enterprise! They are in a simulator room at Starfleet Academy!
After Saavik's Kobayashi test, Kirk exits the simulator to run into Spock in the hallway. After a brief conversation, Spock says he is headed to the Enterprise (proving the simulator is on Earth and doesn’t involve the Enterprise herself at all).
So how are you supposed to feel fear, if you know you are in a simulator room at the Academy and it isn’t an actual mission?
I don’t think they “blindfolded” the Cadets and told them they were being transported to the Enterprise (and snuck them into the simulator).
Not to mention the test itself has been around for decades (in the exact same form) gaining the reputation of the "no-win scenario." Wouldn't word get around the Academy?
I mean if you want to play an April Fool's joke on someone (which on a certain level the Kobayashi Maru test is), you don't let on that "it's not real" beforehand.
Just would like to hear other's take on this.
Kevin