The Indiana Jones Jacket Thread

^That is DEF. purdy...From what I have seen, Tony's jackets do get the color and feel down.

Another question I have for Wested owners though, is regarding the styles. Even if they aren't 100% SA, I am not sure as to the difference between the ROTLA jacket and the LC jacket in the context of Wested. If someone can make that more clear it would be appreciated. Is it the cut? The drape? Both?
 
Those Nowak jackets are super pricey and not for the faint of wallet.
It continues to perplex me that if Wested made the jackets for the movie why can they not provide a completely accurate recreation? Is this deliberate, accidental or just plain ignorance?
Any members here that have pics to contribute, please do so. I will see if I can get John Penman to post pics of his jackets if he has them...
 
According to Indygear, most of the ROTLA jackets were destroyed due to legal problems Lucas had with copyright and various people claiming to be selling same-made Raiders jackets. All but about 5 remained and there was no way for the original makers to know how HUGE the Indy flicks would be. Arguably, this led to the original specs being lost in the annuls of time.

Couple that with (I think I mentioned this up top) an apparent desire by Wested to make their jackets more durable and street wise, apparently running larger to appeal to a more modern and wider audience.

Lastly, as gearheads will attest, custom specs can REALLY change one jacket to another. Let's not forget these jackets were custom made to drape on Harrison Ford's frame and it would prob. be hard to expect 6 or 7 measurements being emailed away to yield the same time, attention, and care for appearance as first hand tailoring for a movie.
 
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Thanks. It fits a little big but I like it overall. I love the feel of the leather.
 
I'm a slim dude - 165lbs, and I don't want the Jacket to look too big for me, and I don't have the budget to have one tailored. I would have gotten one of the Jackets from Todd's website, but there are too many people saying how thin it is and that really puts me off.
 
I'm a slim dude - 165lbs, and I don't want the Jacket to look too big for me, and I don't have the budget to have one tailored. I would have gotten one of the Jackets from Todd's website, but there are too many people saying how thin it is and that really puts me off.

Well apparently the movie jackets did not have leather facets, whatever that means, and was supposedly thinner than how Wested's come now. For this reason, I was actually considering their special offer "film jacket." Can anyone chime in?
 
If you're skinny, get the 80s fit, or special offer Raiders jacket from Wested. It fits slimmer and is more SA.
 
Another question I have for Wested owners though, is regarding the styles. Even if they aren't 100% SA, I am not sure as to the difference between the ROTLA jacket and the LC jacket in the context of Wested. If someone can make that more clear it would be appreciated. Is it the cut? The drape? Both?
I'm far from being an expert, but I think the basic differences are the LC jacket has more rounded collar points than the RotLA, the LC jacket has a snap on the collar that is not present on the RotLA jacket, and as far as I know the LC jacket isn't the slimmer "80s cut" like the RotLA jacket. But then, I really can't tell the difference from one jacket to the next; it wouldn't surprise me to find out Wested uses the same pattern for all of their Indiana Jones jackets and just adds the collar snap for customers ordering a LC or KotCS jacket.

BTW, drape is determined by the type of leather used. Lambskin, for example, is generally thinner and lighter than cowhide so it drapes differently.

I'm a slim dude - 165lbs, and I don't want the Jacket to look too big for me, and I don't have the budget to have one tailored. I would have gotten one of the Jackets from Todd's website, but there are too many people saying how thin it is and that really puts me off.
Just a suggestion--before ordering a jacket, have your measurements taken by a professional tailor. Before I ordered my Wested last year (RotLA in Novapelle) I took my own measurements, then went to the local Men's Wearhouse to have one of their associates take the same measurements; I had purchased a suit from them which fit me perfectly after alterations, so I trusted they knew what they were doing. My measurements and his measurements were the same, but I felt reassured knowing I had been measured by a professional so I sent the measurements to Wested. Mine isn't screen accurate, but I wasn't concerned about that; I liked the style and wanted a comfortable jacket, and the jacket I received looks and fits exactly the way I wanted it to.

At the very least, if you're ordering a jacket online (or otherwise can't try it on in-person) you'll know your measurements and can contact the vendor/manufacturer to inquire about which of the sizes they offer would fit you best.
 
If you're skinny, get the 80s fit, or special offer Raiders jacket from Wested. It fits slimmer and is more SA.

K. So no 80s fit. :lol


Actually I am about 6'2 and 205 pounts, but large framed. Any advice there with regard to style/type of leather?

BTW, thanks for the advice Risu and Zombie, this thread has turned out to be very informative and helpful.
 
I say all lambskin all the time. It's what was used in the first three movies and drapes wonderfully. Also, I live in CA, aka the fire pit of he**, so a warm jacket is never, EVER necessary. Not to say the lambskin isn't warm, it's just thinner. It also distresses really nicely with wear. I don't really have words to describe the change over the first year I owned it.

As for the differences between the Raiders and the LC, here goes nothing:

The jacket was originally made by Peter Botwright, now of Wested Leather, but a different company/person made the jacket for Temple of Doom. It's my understanding that the LC jacket was made based on the ToD jacket, which wasn't exactly the same as the original. After LC, Wested saw the market in selling the jackets to the public, so they started selling Indy jackets made from the new LC pattern. It wasn't until a few years ago that they actually made a somewhat more accurate Raiders jacket, and then finally the special offer jacket, which in my opinion is close enough to perfect.

The differences between the jackets sold by Wested now are the collar and the storm flap snaps. The collar points on the LC are considerably longer than the Raiders and the storm flap had a snap added at the top and the bottom. Both of these details were supposedly added to stop them from flapping around in the motorcycle chase scene. There may also be slightly larger pockets on the LC jacket to accommodate the Grail diary. I'm not absolutely certain if all those details are included or standard on the current jackets, and some of the back story may have been disproven. I haven't peaked my head into the jacket section at COW in a while since it became a war zone.
 
Wow Risu, that info is golden. I tend to think you are right on about a special jacket in lambskin...

FINAL questions...is your jacket a Raiders or an LC? Do your pockets accomodate a Grail Diary?
 
Mine is a Raiders. Annnnnnnnnd YES they do fit a Grail diary. It's a bit of a tight squeeze if you want the pocket to snap closed.
 
Do a search here for the jackets as there is one thread that was archived that had THE info on the Raiders jacket
 
Then I got a Tony Nowak Raiders jacket in New Nowak Goat....perfection. The leather is extremely accurate to the grainy shrunken striated lamb used in Raiders, but far more durable because it is goat. And his specs are SA without needing any alteration, because he saw and measured an original Raiders jacket when making the Indy 4 jackets.
Well, not quiiiite. :)
The jacket LFL loaned him to copy turned out to be a prototype made years ago by a potential licensee, not a screenused jacket.

Since Indy 4, though, Tony acquired a screenused Raiders jacket that he has copied for his Raiders jackets. The Indy 4 specs are different.
 
Those threads were pretty impressive - loaded with so much detail, the answer to 'which one to get' almost gets lost in the shuffle.
Maybe I will just call Wested and ask for the best darn Indy Raiders they can make - with all the 'fanboy' mods and the most accurate specs.
They should know what I am talking about as they have been dealing with hard core fans for years...
 
As I said, Peter Botwright isn't doing that anymore. He announced it on COW. You can order a custom jacket, but only custom fit, stitch-picking is no longer an option.
 
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