The DEFINITIVE TDK Joker Costume Thread/Project

[Jodo]

Wow, VERY nice! My only critique would be also, that the "hole" needs to be a bit smaller. I think, if you bring the "bumpy" part down on it, it would do the trick. And the laugh line needs to be curved a bit more as well.

Oh, also, on the lip scar, I think it should be a little bit smaller, just very slightly. But they look AWSOME none the less. Already the best scars out there. Any idea on a price/ or when they might be available? Only 71 days to Halloween you know! I need to practive applying them! Oh, speaking of which, I've never used FX appliances before, so how will the seam be blended in? LL?

 

[SonOfPumpkinhead]

I'm going to make those final alterations and then skin texture guys. However, I'm going to have to run with the two critiques I've gotten as I want to get these molded soon. As you said, only so many days before halloween!

As for application, it depends which style scar you want. The bondo-transfer V2's need nothing on the edges and they're SEAMLESS.

I'm trying some smooth-on skin tite soon and that gets glued on WITH smooth on and then blended with the wet silicone material.

And the platsil that I'm trying also gets glued on with platsil and seamed with it... We'll see, depends on whats best for you. Let me know which material you think you want and I can discuss further app techniques.

I've taken many pains to make the edges as minimal as POSSIBLE. Most real FX pieces get glued on and have like... a SPOT of edge that gets filled in with a material called bondo which is just a thickened prosthetic adhesive.

 

[rockbottom]

I would say that I would prefer whichever method is easiest for a newb to apply. How flexible are the bondo ones?

 

[SonOfPumpkinhead]

extremely flexible. I was told by my model (pictured) that they where light as air and that he couldn't feel them. Application is like a temp. tatoo for the most part, very easy. However, they're all one time use pieces and get destroyed in removal...

 

[rockbottom]

extremely flexible. I was told by my model (pictured) that they where light as air and that he couldn't feel them. Application is like a temp. tatoo for the most part, very easy. However, they're all one time use pieces and get destroyed in removal...

Thats perfect! If you can get the skin / scar texture to look like the cop Joker pics, I would be in for like 5 sets.

 

[SonOfPumpkinhead]

The transfer scars are the V2 sculpt and are pictured a page or two back. If you like those, I can do them in a neutral clear whitish color for you. Personally I think they look like the cop scars.

 

[rockbottom]

The transfer scars are the V2 sculpt and are pictured a page or two back. If you like those, I can do them in a neutral clear whitish color for you. Personally I think they look like the cop scars.

You won't be doing transfer scars with the new sculpts?

 

[SonOfPumpkinhead]

Unfortunately not, to do the transfers, the sculpt needs to be flat but the V3 i'm going to mold curved ON the lifecast like a normal prosthetic so that I can get good edges on the silicone scars...we'll see if they survive, I MAY be able to pull out my sculpt and flatten it but it's VERY doubtful...

 

[Jodo]

I'm confused. :lol

Just as long as they don't come out like Brian's application by production did, I'll be happy. :lol

EDIT - I'd prefer whatever is most seamless/best to speak in. :lol

 

[SonOfPumpkinhead]

Alright guys, lets take a vote then I guess... I can pop these new sculpts off the lifecast to do transfers if that's the majority vote...

Basicall, I need to scars layed out flat for the transfers as they need to be "squeegied" onto a piece of acetate but for the silicone scars, I need negative and positive mold halves to get good edges. Silicone would have a multiple use advantage but the transfers are MUCH easier to apply and have NO edge.

What's the majority vote? Both have their pro's and cons... making the alterations according to the above critiques tonight. Let me know what material is more appealing and I'll TRY to do the other afterwards...

Two materials consisting of two very different methods... Which material is more needed/wanted?

 

[rockbottom]

I would go with the transfers only because I have zero experience with this stuff.

 

[SonOfPumpkinhead]

By the way, all interested, please feel free to check out theeffectslab.com under the tutorials section theres a post on the creation of the transfers and a post on the application. Both have been "stuck" to the top of the tutorials page. You'll get a better understanding of the process.

 

[NoTsOsErIoUs]

Personally for myself I'd only be interested in silicone scars. I would be more interested in molds that I can use to pour up scars in silicone as and when I need 'em.

Something more along the lines of what Gorify.com came up with.

And I would ofcourse be more than willing to pay more for this type of kit.

 

[Jodo]

Considering the transfers are a one-off type deal, how much would they run money wise? Or how much will either run? They look excellent, but if they cost alot, I'll need to "ration" them. And with 12 or so events, or more, I need to know how cost effective either method is. I'd prefer something without an edge, but I gotta keep my budget in mind.

 

[SonOfPumpkinhead]

I'm estimating 20 to 30 for a transfer kit which would include the scars ready made, on the acetate and dried, enough transfer paper to apply the scars and a small amount of pros-aide to move the piece from the acetate to the transfer paper. This price would of course include shipping. (To understand the process I just mentioned please see the tutorial at theeffectslab).

For the silicone ones I was thinking 60-70 for a set as the platinum stuff is much more difficult to work with...

And for a set of molds in hydrocal like gorify I was estimating 90-100 as you could then make as many as you wanted.

Again, these are all hypothetical estimates. Please let me know if this seems outrageous as I want to come up with a fair price that covers the work involved but is also affordable to you.

 

[Jodo]

I was realy realy hoping they'd be $20 (or less. :lol ), I guess I'd just have to use them wisly or limit myself to a set number, not practice applications with them,etc. I took a look at the tutorial forum over at theeffectslab, I might have to join that site. I'd realy like to go further with my make-up applications, and that looks like the place to be! I understood the tutorials for the transfers pretty straight foreward. I might have to go look up what some of the terms meen, but I meen, it just look simple. Very easy actualy.

Having said that, I'll proboly mess my first ones up. :lol

 

[SonOfPumpkinhead]

The pics of my last pieces where my very first go with the transfers and they rocked. I messed up the lip scar which is why its not pictured but it was a stupid mistake, not a matter of the transfer itself...

 

[SonOfPumpkinhead]

Sculpt is done and textured. It's been flattened on a piece of plexi glass as either the transfers or Gorify's method require these to be flat anyway. I BELIEVE I've managed to come up with a way to do both. Molding tomorrow during my lunch hour. I'll update once all the molds are complete and let you all know how it's turned out.

 

[SonOfPumpkinhead]

I have a new transfer mold AND three separate rigid molds like Gorify does it, EXCEPT my rigid molds are made out of Smooth-Cast 300 by smooth-on as seen in their tutorial for their skin tite scars. I have a sample of skint tite so once the molds are cleaned out and molded (i have to make a mold of my molds in order to make and sell molds...:wacko:lol) I can run a test set in silicone to make sure everything's hunky dory! Soon fellas. I appreciate the help and the critiques and the encouragement. I'm going to be moving cross country on the 30th so I'll have more info as far as selling these after that. Pics soon.

 

[GeneralFROSTY]

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