The Definitive DC Extended Universe Batsuit Research Thread

[teragon]

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I'd say a standard 4 way stretch lycra might be a good base maybe ? That company looks good. According to the video, I think a first grey layer of the normal plastisol would work, then a second layer of high density ink for the tire tracks. It's worth asking if they can do 2 layers. They need a pattern though.

 

[Mr Mold Maker]

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Delete.

 

[teragon]

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I'm mainly using the Ironhead studio pics as reference now, these are real suit, aren't they ?
The goal is to recreate as close as we can, but it seems doubtful any of us could afford going with the exact process they used.
I still feel like the two layers of screen printing is the best option so far, just look at Maskrider's MOS suit. It's the closest replica there is, and he probably did use screen printing to achieve that.

 

[drftfan]

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Decided to just delete what I said. That simple.

 

[slowfinger33]

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So since I have seen this statue comment multiple times... It is NOT a statue. Statutes aren't spongy. And the fabric is loose on it. And to address the fact that it isn't the same body form they used for Ben... are people trying to speculate they created an entirely different form for the display suits? Because the muscle structure is exactly the same so I highly doubt they re did it for a display suit. It is the same suit, the same fabric as the real suit. They didn't completely make an entirely different suit and fabric for the display suit.

Correct. The legit sources I've spoken to confirm this. The "statue" is indeed the same suit made for the film BUT with minor differences in presentation (most obvious is the paint job). You'll also find that when you see this suit, often the magnetic fins are missing (not always though) so that people won't steal them. The cowl on the "statue" is fiberglass, that's the only non-film item, and it is not the same cowl model that Ben uses in the movie (it was made specifically for the "statue"). The body form they are displaying the suit on is Affleck's stunt double (and not the actual model Jose sculpted on originally - obviously you can tell by the stance). So all in all, definitely not a statue lol.

 

[caunyd]

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The fabric was custom dyed.

It was done in two or three screens using a specialty ink.. There are very few places that can do it.. Somewhere around four. Very expensive. The suit was then painted as seen in the Ironhead pics, and then the whole suit was given a treatment. There is no silver ink, that is just a trick of the light. Dark gun metal grey topcoated is what gives it that look.


The statues fabric is neither the correct color, or the correct pattern. As I said before, it's a great starting point, but it isn't accurate to what was on film....

I understand that Ironhead studio did much more to make the suit. I haven't done a frame by frame comparison between the movie and the "statue," but having seen both the movie and taken those detailed photos of the statue, I think they are close enough. I'd be more than satisfied if we could reproduce what was on the "statue."

At least for me, the statue is cool enough. And if we can achieve that look, it would be miles ahead of any fabric that's out there. I'm not suggesting that we have a 100% accurate authentic reproduction, as nothing is, unless you get a suit straight from Ironhead

 

[brucebatman]

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man this suit is the inception of costumes lol. Jose is truly a master! btw does anybody know what colour the muscle suit was? I know henry's was black and silver.

 

[Mr Mold Maker]

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Delete.

 

[brucebatman]

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I wouldn't mind putting up some cash to get this printed accurate just need to find where... an tbh i never would have guessed the suit was painted with hints on bronze etc i thought it was just lighting but it explains alot.

 

[silkscreener]

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Let me rephrase.. What do I mean by the statues (yes, they're called statues) are inaccurate to the film suits? I mean that they are unpainted, unfinished, and the color and pattern is not exact.

As I have said, the Statues are a perfect starting point. If you replicate the pattern accurately, as well as figure out the topcoat and painting methods applied, then boom.. It looks like the screen used suits.

To my knowledge six statues were made I believe? Only one of them used a real production suit, but even that one was an unfinished and unused version.. It was at the LA premier I believe.


So what am I saying? Start with the statue.
Once you have the pattern printed and the suit assembled? Paint it.. Lots of gold, bronze, silver, and blue tones are in the suit. If you take it that extra step further you'll get it pretty close. Make sense?


Many people don't realize that the photos from Ironhead show unfinished suits. Those are in the process of being made.. Let's hope they release photos of the completely finished suits they used on set.. Then we can talk "definitive."

Hey bud - To where are these gold bronze silver and blue tones you speak of... Do you mean on the 3D Screen printed Texture or digitally printed on the fabric?

 

[drftfan]

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Decided to just delete what I said. That simple.

 

[Mr Mold Maker]

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Delete.

 

[reaton89]

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Statue. Just saying...

 

[caunyd]

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I understand Ironhead did far more to create the suit. I don't doubt there's gold, blue, bronze and silver. But if we can reproduce what's on the statue, I think it'll suffice. Will it be definitive or an authentic reproduction? No, but to be honest, at least for me, the difference is negligible, because after watching the movie, seeing the statue, and also looking at photos from various media sources, I can't tell the difference. As you mentioned, Ironhead hasn't even released photos of the completed suit. So maybe none of us know what the finished product looks like, except for what we could tell from the movie).

I'd be willing to bet that if we are able to reproduce just what is on the statue (and that's still a big if, at this point), most people here would be happy.

 

[teragon]

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Those gold accents seem more pronounced on the studio pics, but I see it now, it's indeed paint. I thought it was just lightning on the official mugshot :

But they're clearly there, and with strong blue, borderline turquoise accents too. Not technically hard to achieve though, just an airbrush and the right shades of color, and follow the reference images.

 

[reaton89]

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[caunyd]

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I am sorry but by sheer definition it isn't a statue. The displays as they should be called is a body form wit the suit mounted on top. Called it a statue of you want but at best it is a mannequin.

stat·ue
ˈstaCHo͞o/
noun

• a carved or cast figure of a person or animal, especially one that is life-size or larger.
  

  synonyms:

  sculpture, figure, effigy, statuette, figurine, idol; More

Drftfan, I must admit I admire your dedication to definitions. It's like your 3rd post protesting the use of the word "statue." haha. BTW, you are entirely correct, but I think, since I have referred to it as a statue this entire time, I will continue to do so. I think changing to display or mannequin at this point is going against my own precedent.

 

[Mr Mold Maker]

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Delete. Done wasting my time on this thread. Email Jose.. Rob.. Doug.. Find out from them yourself.

 

[caunyd]

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Those gold accents seem more pronounced on the studio pics, but I see it now, it's indeed paint. I thought it was just lightning on the official mugshot :
But they're clearly there, and with strong blue, borderline turquoise accents too. Not technically hard to achieve though, just an airbrush and the right shades of color, and follow the reference images.

Yeah I see the gold accents on the studio pics too now.

 

[brucebatman]

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im really loving that gold the more i look at it i thought about it a when the pic was first released of batman in full colour but i just assumed it was lighting! i have also been speaking with Jose the last few days but mostly about the amour.