The Dark Knight Rises (Post-release)

Just saw it today, for whatever reasons today was only the premiere here, and boy was it worth the wait ! Just to establish some grounding : I'm 20, grew up mostly with Batman The Animated Series and didn't see the burton movies until a few years ago, after I saw begins and TDK. And on a personal level, I find Burton's movies boring and couldn't find my batman voiced by the great Conroy. I had to force myself to finish them, something that doesn't happen very often while I do watch an average of one movie per day. Why ? Briefly, the characters didn't feel right to me, while I don't deny that the actors may be good, it was just too extravagant, especially pfeiffer's catwoman. Good acting, but what the hell was that ? Catwoman isn't a crazy bird-eating supernatural creature, it's a cat burglar, merely dressed like a cat, in my opinion.
That is one of the many reasons I liked TDKR, Hathaway did a fine job, even without her whip, as a believable catwoman.
Let's not talk about Schumacher movie-length toy commercials.
TDKR was to perfect conclusion, it tied the loose ends and showed us how the batman is immortal.
It's been said, all the actors did an amazing job, the characters the play are everything I expected them to be so I'm not going to waste time on this.
The fights between Bane and the bat were just outstanding, I could almost feel the power of the blows, first coming from bane, and his much appreciated "brocken back" move, then from Batman in the end, I really thought it was intense.
And frankly, I don't see that many plot holes, I think most people just don't understand some parts, or are unable to connect the dots by themselves, what I feel while reading some comments is that if it isn't shown on screen, then it's a plot hole.
Although I can't yet decide if it's better than TDK or on the same level, I'll have to see it again before I can really decide !
 
Every time Bane and Batman met in battle, I saw Hector vs Achilles from the Troy film.

And here I was thinking that I was the only one who made that connection :lol.

I like the design for Catwoman's goggles. When they're up they form cat ears. I think that's pretty neat and creative.
 
Saw it today and all I can say is WOW! I was blown away and almost brought to tears a couple of times. A remarkable film and a fitting end to the Nolan Bat Trilogy.
 
Just a small thing but it tied the movies together....
I like that Bale kept using the same fighting style thru out the entire trilogy
there is a behind the scenes thing on it on the BB DVD, but its a very close-in fighting style that emphasises elbow strikes.
its very distinctive, and practical looking.
I wouldnt call it a martial art in the sense that its flashy and Matrix-y, but just very direct and brutal. It worked really well for him.
 
I'm surprised that cops, who live in a city with frozen rivers every year, didn't think that if they are being forced to cross a frozen river that they should be down on all fours to spread out their weight and reduce localized pressure on the ice. Dumb cops.
Overall, that's a common problem in "super hero" movies--law enforcement and medical staff tend to be portrayed as incompetent, not-too-bright, or just plain wrong. If I were in either profession, I think I'd be offended.

Did anyone recognize the guy from Dexter? The actor who plays detective Quinn.
He's the police officer who won't let Blake cross the bridge at the end.
I also noticed that the black thug towards the end who was going to stop Blake from opening up the tunnel was none other than Christopher Judge, aka Teal'q from "Stargate SG1"
I noticed both Desmond Harrington and Christopher Judge, and quietly pointed them out to a friend who is also a fan of Dexter and the various Stargate series. She recognized Harrington, but questioned whether or not it really was Judge until I suggested, "Just imagine him with a piece of bubble gum stuck to his forehead." I was making a joking reference to the appliance Judge wore in Stargate, of course, but she did recognize him after that. :lol
 
Lord Peter Balish from Game of Thrones was in the opening scene.
Dug this movie. It did not seem at all like the last 2 movies. This one was more of a civil war type movie imo. Batman got his ***** handed to him by Bane, whose voice sounded rather creepy on the big screen. I almost hurt watching bats get his ***** kicked. Minus some of the plot holes, great ending to Nolans trilogy. I didn't think all the flashbacks were necessary.
 
I liked how the film took a shot at those that pine over the whole "one percent" thing. This movie hints at that and then flips it but at the same time it shows.... "Hey, you may not like the way rich people run things but look at how things could be if they didn't run things. Anarchy."
 
I liked how the film took a shot at those that pine over the whole "one percent" thing. This movie hints at that and then flips it but at the same time it shows.... "Hey, you may not like the way rich people run things but look at how things could be if they didn't run things. Anarchy."


LOL The world doesn't need the rich to run it, this statement is wrong on many levels. The world just needs responsible people to run it and it went to crap because of a maniac with a bomb.


That being said overall i enjoyed the movie it was a fun ride but like others have said before the plot holes did bring down the experience specifically the lack of a deeper explanation on banes mask and what they did with the whole Robin/Not Robin crap. Bane was well played though i thought the voice was a weird fit.
 
It would be the most stupidest move ever to try to pin what Harvey did on the Joker. He'd make sure that lie was exposed pretty quickly, even if he had to break out and kill a few people to prove it. You don't poke a stick at someone like that and think you'll walk away alive.

In your own statement you summed up why they could have blamed the the Joker. So you think by the Joker being a convicted terrorist, kidnaper, murderer and head of a crime syndicate, and breaking out of prison or an asylum, and murdering more people will prove hes innocent of the Dent murders? Also I think Gordon or Batman would poke a stick at any criminal they want.
 
In your own statement you summed up why they could have blamed the the Joker. So you think by the Joker being a convicted terrorist, kidnaper, murderer and head of a crime syndicate, and breaking out of prison or an asylum, and murdering more people will prove hes innocent of the Dent murders? Also I think Gordon or Batman would poke a stick at any criminal they want.
Absolutely not. Did you watch TDK? Did you read the comics? Why would anyone in their right mind want to do anything THAT stupid.

Blaming it on the Joker and you'd be sure that he'd make everyone pay dearly for it. Batman would gain nothing from it - he gained that doubt on whether he actually does kill people. Gordon may gain a little, but would probably get more grief by it - more than he did by keeping the lie about Harvey and Batman taking the blame.

Also... the Joker was in custody when Dent died. Only ones present at the scene was Gordon, his family and Batman.
 
Absolutely not. Did you watch TDK? Did you read the comics? Why would anyone in their right mind want to do anything THAT stupid.

Blaming it on the Joker and you'd be sure that he'd make everyone pay dearly for it. Batman would gain nothing from it - he gained that doubt on whether he actually does kill people. Gordon may gain a little, but would probably get more grief by it - more than he did by keeping the lie about Harvey and Batman taking the blame.

Also... the Joker was in custody when Dent died. Only ones present at the scene was Gordon, his family and Batman.


Everyone already payed dearly, some with their lives. Did you forget about all the people the Joker had already murdered and all the hostages he had taken on the ferry and was going to kill.

Also you my notice in my earlier post I said they could blame it on the Joker or his henchmen.
 
Not sure if anyone has seen this that was posted at Geek Tyrant- 'See How Joker Could Have Been Included in TDKR' (from a fan's perspective):
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Artwork by Sam Saxton

It's not for me at all personally - liked it just how it was. Only just dawned on me that Scarecrow was at Blackgate, not Arkham, I guess thanks to the Dent act.
 
Finally got to see it (I had to wait for someone to go with me plus find a time at the real IMAX theater, since I refuse to go fake IMAX screens), and it was well worth the wait. Loved the film and felt it was a perfect ending to the trilogy. In fact, the trilogy felt like an Elseworlds series that allowed the writers to do something different with the character.

Sure, there were flaws with the film, but there will always be things to nipick at with a film of this scope, but overall, it worked amazingly well. It didn't feel as "magical" as TDK, simply because Bane isn't as theatrical a character as The Joker, but I feel Bane brought his own form or brutal menace to the story.

And for the people who thought the film was too long, think about how lucky we are that WB ALLOWED the film to be nearly 3 hours. That means no studio interference and they let Nolan do what he wanted because they trusted him that much. Hell, the Lincoln Square IMAX in NYC (which has been sold out for all the shows) had 3AM and 6AM showings because the demand to watch TDKR has been so ridiculous. I went to a 2PM showing on a Tuesday, got there an hour and a half early, and there was already a line of maybe 100 people in front of me.

I say let the film be long. Think about how many complaints there would be if people were saying the film felt rushed or incomplete?
 
I say let the film be long. Think about how many complaints there would be if people were saying the film felt rushed or incomplete?

I have no problems with a movie being long. I have problems with a film dedicating so much time to characters who don't amount to anything. Just how exactly would the film have suffered if Matthew Modine's character was gone from the film? For every scene he was in, I kept thinking about how this screen time could have been given to Catwoman or Gordon.
 
Everyone already payed dearly, some with their lives. Did you forget about all the people the Joker had already murdered and all the hostages he had taken on the ferry and was going to kill.

Also you my notice in my earlier post I said they could blame it on the Joker or his henchmen.
And again. That is precisely the reason they WOULDN'T blame it on the Joker. And seeing as his henchmen were insanely loyal it would be idiotic blaming it on them.

You just DO NOT brush a lie onto someone like that, as it will BLOW UP in your face.
 
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