The Dark Knight Rises (Post-release)

I liked the film, I just wish their would have been more scenes with Batman. And a couple of points to think about. When Batman was chasing the truck with the bomb, where was his EMP gun, that would have been handy to use on the truck, the bomb, the detonator and maybe Bane's mask? How did Bane get so strong? He held Batman off the ground, by the neck with one hand. Not possible, even if your a worlds strongest man competitor. Lastly more of a thought about TDK, why didn't Gordon, just blame the Joker or his henchmen for the the killings and death of Harvey Dent? Dent still would have been a hero.

Again I liked the movie.
 
Great movie right up to the end. Seriously, they had it in the bag, then spoiled it with the boy wonder...


I didn't see it anything different in spirit then the end of The Dark Knight Returns comics only instead of the sons of the Batman it's "Robin", who more then likely would go the Nightwing angle skipping the entire boy wonder awkward stage.

I didn't care for Bruce pulling an 8 year disappearing act but if you wanted to channel Dark Knight Returns, then I guess you need the "retirement" earlier in his life to squeeze things into three films.
 
I totally called the involvement of the Lazarus pit. I loved The Dark Knight Rises. I think they wrapped the story up really well and though there were a few plot holes, they were minor compared to the emotional story being presented. I really felt for the characters. The acting and writing were both very well executed and the spectacle was everything I anticipated. Can't wait to see it again. So glad that Nolan was able to break the Comic book trilogy curse.
 
Unlike the pre-Nolan Bat-Films, which focused more on the villains than providing a story arc for Bruce Wayne/Batman, Nolan was able to make me care about what Bruce was really looking for: a day when Batman wasn't needed. Yes, in the comics, Bruce is eternal, but in this trilogy, Bruce is not. In the first film, Batman became a symbol of hope to the down-trodden city, and a symbol of fear for criminals and the corrupt. In the TDK, Batman was working in concert with his allies to finally take down the mob, and release the city from it's stranglehold. They succeeded, but it was based on a lie, thanks to the random chaos by the Joker (who was the "escalation" that Gordon feared would happen in the era of Batman.) Bruce took the fall, but because of the Dent Act, the remnants of the mob were crushed (off screen, of course, in the 8 year gap.) Desponent over the death of Rachael, hunted by the police, and in many ways unneeded by the city, Bruce had no other life to return to, because all he had hoped for was lost.

Dark Knight Rises circles back to Batman Begins: the planned destruction of Gotham was delayed ("borrowed time" if you will) but the League of Shadows still had allies, the rich and corrupt (Roland Daggett) to use them to further their own ends and complete the quest R'as had started. Lies were exposed (Dent's turn, Alfred's hiding the truth from Bruce) and this made things all the worse for our heroes. Sprirts and bodies broken (Gordon and Bruce both, as well as Gotham itself), everyone rose to the occassion. Even the police, once a corrupt arm of the mob, became a symbol of justice over evil, even if the price was high.

Batman dies, but he doesn't; Bruce Wayne dies, but he doesn't. Yes, he gets a happy ending, odd as it may seem to longtime Batman fans, but no surprise if you take into account Nolan's film-making style. The legend will go on, but we have this partcular interpretation come to a natural conclusion.

Doubtful that this will have any sequels or spinoffs. Especially if there is going to be a DC "shared universe" similar to Marvel's. A new Batman will come to theaters someday soon, as there is money to be made. So maybe Chuck will get a Batman film he can take his kids to, as it will be unlikely that they could pull off this so called "relistic" style of Batman storytelling in a world that has flying supermen and women with invisible jets. Me? As a longtime Batman fan, I appreciate the best all versions and eras of the character have to offer. This film was still a satisfying end to the saga, and we now have another great trilogy of films to be entertained by.
 
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I can answer that. I have zero, and yes I mean zero cartilage in one knee thanks to a military injury. I need a knee replacement but am too young, so I will need to wait another twenty years for that, unless a better option is invented.

Sometimes I have a limp, and a cane does help. I never use it though, and provided I stay fairly active I am able to run and walk without a limp. It can be painful, but what he did with or without a brace and no cartilage is possible.

I can go a full hour of playing soccer, without stopping, of course later I am wishing for death until the pain meds or jacuzi eases the pain away.

Thanks for this post. I've been trying to come up with a way to explain the whole cartilage recovery thing to myself since watching the movie.
 
Lastly more of a thought about TDK, why didn't Gordon, just blame the Joker or his henchmen for the the killings and death of Harvey Dent? Dent still would have been a hero.
It would be the most stupidest move ever to try to pin what Harvey did on the Joker. He'd make sure that lie was exposed pretty quickly, even if he had to break out and kill a few people to prove it. You don't poke a stick at someone like that and think you'll walk away alive.
 
As soon as I saw Cillian Murphy in DKR, my thoughts instantly flashed to how cool it would have been to see Heath Ledger's Joker again too.
 
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Watched The Dark Knight Rises for a second time. As great as it was, still can't decide if I liked it better than The Dark Knight and Batman Begins. It's better off to just consider all three movies as a whole single story. Epic conclusion to the Batman saga either ways.
 
6. Did Bruce Wayne have a Bat-Teleporter? How'd he get back into Gotham?

I don't mind the theory that Bruce trained on ice with the League of Shadows in Begins so could potentially cross the frozen water, though obviously that's a bit more far fetched!
At the time I just thought if Captain Jones & co. can sneak in then Bruce Wayne wouldn't have had any trouble at all. I guess it's one of those 'How would you have liked it to happen?' moments...
 
Question: How exactly did Bane's mask work? Was he breathing some form of gas? Where was the gas stored? I didn't see any pipes leading into his back or anywhere on his body.
 
I don't mind the theory that Bruce trained on ice with the League of Shadows in Begins so could potentially cross the frozen water, though obviously that's a bit more far fetched!
At the time I just thought if Captain Jones & co. can sneak in then Bruce Wayne wouldn't have had any trouble at all. I guess it's one of those 'How would you have liked it to happen?' moments...

I'm surprised that cops, who live in a city with frozen rivers every year, didn't think that if they are being forced to cross a frozen river that they should be down on all fours to spread out their weight and reduce localized pressure on the ice. Dumb cops.
 
I'm surprised that cops, who live in a city with frozen rivers every year, didn't think that if they are being forced to cross a frozen river that they should be down on all fours to spread out their weight and reduce localized pressure on the ice. Dumb cops.


I thought the same thing, but I also felt it was obviously implied that if any of the cops tried that, they'd be shot. Otherwise, yeah. I would have got a running start and slid across that sucker on my belly.

As for the movie, I absolutely loved it. Can't wait to see it again. I'll have to wait a bit and let everything sink in before I'm sure, but I think "Rises" might be my favorite of the three.

I would LOVE to see a "Batman Beyond" type of continuation involving JGL and Bale, but only if Nolan directed, which I know won't happen. Considering that, I'd prefer they just leave Nolan's universe alone.
 
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Question: How exactly did Bane's mask work? Was he breathing some form of gas? Where was the gas stored? I didn't see any pipes leading into his back or anywhere on his body.

Thats kind of what I thought it had some medication in an vapor that he inhaled. The medication could have been held in the front tubes in a liquid. I know it also obviously had a PA system in it :lol
 
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