The Dark Knight Rises (Post-release)

Well, the comics had cross-overs all the time. Batman was a total loner in his monthly, yet was in the JLA every month as well. But it was set up for that.

I get an feeling that some want us to 'drink the Koolaid' and love DKR, just because it's a Batman movie. "love my girlfriend like I do".
Sorry, I don't care for her that much. Love her if you want. I don't see why you do.

One disappointment I had was, despite all the Tumblers and truck vehicles, not much happens with them. They drive back and forth like an old video game waiting to be knocked off. It points the cannon...BOOm. Got it.
That deleted scene with Nixon being hit would have been the most action it saw.
And then Gordon just jumps on and gets in the little sliding door with no guards, locks, or alarms to stop him. A semi full of cigarettes has better security.
And why not just blow up the bomb? The Mechanism would be wrecked, and might release radiation, but it's inside that truck thing. [what are those things called anyway?]
Why? Because the script demands it.
 
(Really, the problem here is not that Blake figured it out but that other sharp folks like Gordan never caught on as well. Bruce is the only guy in Gotham who has both the resources and the motivation to be Batman. If you know he has money and a dark history with crime, it shouldn't be too hard to figure out.)

He also happened to die at the same time as Batman. That said, I imagine a lot of rich people died in Gotham during the 'trials' so there's still some cause for uncertainty.
 
He also happened to die at the same time as Batman. That said, I imagine a lot of rich people died in Gotham during the 'trials' so there's still some cause for uncertainty.

...and then when Blake takes up the mantle and the orphans of Gotham again see Batman, people will simply assume that Batman didn't die after all...and Bruce was a random casualty of the day.

-Nick

PS: I'm going to see it for a second time in about an hour, let's see if I notice anything new.
 
"Hey, ya got a vertebrae sticking out of your back..." WHACK! (All good.)

Nice to know Batman's got the same HMO I've got.
 
I got the opportunity to watch this Thursday at midnight and Friday evening, and I enjoyed it both times. Great way for Nolan to end it.
 
So it wouldn't make any sense to you if they ran a JGL Batman film around the same time as Man Of Steel, which is being produced by Nolan? You prefer them going out, finding a new Batman/Bruce Wayne and establishing a new Gotham with new faces for all the characters? Seems like the exact opposite of a good idea. But believe what you want, I just refuse to accept with deafening certainty that this trilogy would not be continued. I'm looking at it like the Bourne Series at this point. Trilogy completed, same universe, different agent, new movie.

Nolan's involvement in MoS has nothing to do with it. WB won't run movies featuring the same character played by different actors that are different universes. I also didn't say that I like the idea, I'm just stating a fact.

There is no way at all that they would use a Batman in JLA that isn't Bruce Wayne, absolutely none. It will have to be a new universe for the JLA film just based on that. They won't run a JGL bat-film a year or two before JLA out of fear of confusing the audiences.

Bourne example doesn't work. Jason Bourne isn't showing up in some spy-team in a few years played by not-Matt-Damon in a reboot universe. If he was then the Bourne cash-grab staring Hawkeye wouldn't be coming.

It'd be like Tony dying in Iron Man 2, having Iron Man 3 focus on Rhodey, and having Avengers feature a different Iron Man that isn't the one from the RDJ films. It'd be stupid to run multiple film franchises based on the same source material at the same time, and would confuse the hell out of viewers.

Live in denial all you want, all the evidence goes against another Nolan-verse film.
 
The metahuman argument is a good one but if you look at it, none of the JLA members have been established in their own movies yet. Nolan's trilogy can take place before Clark Kent becomes Superman or before Martian Manhunter comes to Earth, etc. This could lead to much larger than life Batman villains for JGL's version of the Vigilante. Guys like Freeze, Clayface or even Killer Croc. Applying TDK's theme of escalation to the entire universe basically.

Well, given that you list no female members of the JL or any of the female villains (even from Batman!), I don't think I'd want TDK's theme to play out in that way.
 
If you look at modern day comics, Bruce Wayne isn't THE Batman it is Dick Grayson with Damien Wayne playing the role of Robin and Dick is a member of the Justice League. And if DC is really aiming to cash in then why not use one of the highest grossing film collections in history as your launching point?

Using Iron Man dying as an example isn't exactly fetching, think of it more like Bucky Barnes becoming Captain America at the end of "Winter Soldier" and them doing The Avengers 2 with Rogers "dead." But regardless of how strongly you feel about it, saying never or that its impossible is way too forward.

As all these comic movies have come and gone, one thing is for certain... the creators of said films can take almost any liberty they want with the source material to create their vision (ala Bane with no Venom and in the League of Shadows) as long as it creates a solid film.You can't simply apply shackles to what they can and cannot do based on some phantom rules.
 
If you look at modern day comics, Bruce Wayne isn't THE Batman it is Dick Grayson with Damien Wayne playing the role of Robin and Dick is a member of the Justice League. And if DC is really aiming to cash in then why not use one of the highest grossing film collections in history as your launching point?

Dick's not Batman anymore, he's back to Nightwing with the New 52 reboot.

Guess what, more people watch Batman films than read Batman comics, almost certainly by an extremely wide margin. Most of the movie viewers don't know that there ever was a Batman that wasn't Bruce. DC just rebooted their continuity again and reinstalled the most well-known incarnation of various heroes, so why would they make any Batman films that don't feature Bruce? The safe bet is to keep using Bruce as Batman in any future films, so why would they do anything else? WB can't even make a successful DC film that doesn't have Bruce Wayne in it.

Also, there's more money in rebooting completely. They can bring in all new people for cheaper than reusing people from the Nolan-verse would cost. A new Gordon would be cheaper than using Gary Oldman for the 4th time.

Yes, the Bucky example is perhaps better but you got my point. Movie audiences would get confused seeing a JGL Bat-film and a Bruce Wayne Batman in JLA. Hell, just look at Casino Royale. It's a complete reboot but since Judi Dench was used again as M people assume a more complicated connection.
 
The can go for all the same world stuff they want with JLA. Rebooting batman should wait at least 4 years if not longer and JLA can follow a year after that. Problem is DC won't want to wait until 2017 to do it. Cramming a new batman down peoples throats in 18-24 months is not a recipe for success. Not that they are, but if they want the next batman out before JLA, that's what it'd have to be. If they went JLA first and it wasn't Bale or JGL, the 'only movie people' folk they seem to gear at would be just as confused (if not moreseo) as they would if they had two different batmans going at once.

Marvel establish IM, CA, Thor, and the Hulk (and changed him completely btw for avengers) over a span of 4ish years before going for the avengers. You think DC wants to wait that long? To 'cash in' as they put it, it's got to be pretty soon.
 
My apologies, I hadn't realized they did the relaunch. I suppose, in my mind, continuing on with this established universe is a much better idea. I see plenty of options to blend the lines into a large scale film but then again, I really liked the concept of Batman Beyond. Using Bale in a limited almost Alfred type role would solidify the turning of a page but still show that Batman is timeless.

I'm still not going to bet money on there never being another film to continue the series though. Almost like X-Men First Class coming out to restart the continuity but still moving forward with the Wolverine movies.
 
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writers are stupid, blake should have been the kid who Batman saves in begins, he heard the girl say "bruce?" and thats how he figured it out
 
To start off, I'm not a big Batman fan. I prefer Marvel to DC. I think their characters are more real. Still, the Nolan Batman movies have been very compelling. I'm not sure why some are not liking this one, because it got to me more than the others.

Batman was broken down to the ground! He was a real underdog. By the time he was fighting Bane for the second time, after being beaten earlier and severely injured, I found myself fighting the urge to scream out across the theatre, "Come on Batman, you can do it! Kick his *****!"

Anne Hathaway is insanely hot.

Bane's voice surprised me at first, but I really liked it.

Joseph Gordon-Levitt is a great actor. Michael Caine was absolutely OUTSTANDING in every word he spoke.

The ending was perfect. I desperately want another in this series. It's already taking place in my brain. I guess that is what good movies should do, inspire your imagination.
 
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I did enjoy the little nods to other characters

Killer Croc: Blake talking to Gordon about alligators in the sewers
Mr.Freeze: Fox asking Bruce if he is finally out of cryostatis
Red Hood: Bane wearing the leather jacket and red helmet
 
writers are stupid, blake should have been the kid who Batman saves in begins, he heard the girl say "bruce?" and thats how he figured it out

I thought so at first too, would have been a nice touch. The kid is in highschool by TDKR though so it wouldn't work.
 
The dark knight rises. Like or dislike?

Im curious about this pole. Could you please comment just like or dislike? I for one didnt care for it so im a dislike.
 
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