The Dark Knight Rises (Post-release)

[cboath]

For everyone thinking it might continue...was it just me or did they never resolve the whole 'Wayne lost all his money thing' so any Batman/Nightwing in the future has a SERIOUS budget limitation going for them...it probably costs quite a bit to keep the cave fully stocked

I thought they had a line about them being able to reverse the transactions once they found out they weren't legit, but that there was nothing they could do for the time being.

Plus, you know billionaires, gotta have money stashed in Switzerland and the Caymans Selina is/was a thief, she's gotta have a healthy nestegg for them to travel on, too.

 

[cboath]

I was hoping for a Dark Knight Returns movie one day, but Nolan half gutted it with this one. 'sigh'

IMDB already lists an Untitled Batman Reboot.

Untitled Batman Reboot (????) - IMDb

You know if Nolan called up the studio and said he had a great idea for a 4th, that any reboot plans would be immediately canceled.

Not saying he'll ever do it, mind you, but just being mentioned on IMDB doesn't carve it in stone.

 

[planet]

We saw it today at an out of town theater mega screen...bought my tix before the tragedy.

While there was this terrible cloud of hurt looming over my head, I didn't want my kids to see me bothered, so we haven't discussed the incident much.

The theater was somber and nowhere near capacity.
During the pre show stuff, it was so quiet you could hear a pin drop.

The show...for me..was best of the three.
Will others agree, I doubt it...TDK is a pretty hard show to beat.

But the show got my attention, kept me on the edge of my chair.
Bane was an incredible villain, and the football stadium part just reaked of domestic terrorism. Sure, my over active imagination and anxiety compounded with the tragic incident in CO....really got to me...scared me a bit that we really don't know what can happen five minutes from now...

Michael Caine...that man is awesome.

Maybe it's just my age, but I had to fight tears a couple times..

The DarkKnight rose.
He truly is the symbol needed.

its not your age man it did rise as high as it could no doubt .

 

[HandSolo]

To echo Trauma Caspians hyperbole, this movie did make the 3 films, as a whole, greater than the sum of their parts. It was the first actual trilogy I have seen in a long while (not a movie and its two interconnected sequels--eg Matrix). I liked the plot on face value, even though there were plot holes galore.
I loved the cat-ears/glasses...brilliant costume design

And as per above discussion I am pretty sure I don't have to use the blue spoiler text in this thread, but just in case...SPOILERS BELOW

I knew "Tate" would turn out to be evil almost at her introduction, but for some reason, I didn't think she'd be Talia. I think it was because she was not hot enough.

But We all should have known that Bane was not the child in the pit because he straight up tells the batman that he was a grown man when he first saw the light of day. Really should have caught that.

I really liked the Ra's cameo. He looked younger than when Bruce knew him (indicating a dip in the Lazarus pit). I didn't him fading out at the end- It made it seem too much like a hallucination. Bruce should have just looked up and he wasn't there (keeping it more ambiguous).

I hated the Robin link and if Joseph Gordon-Levitt thinks he can play batman I am going to punch him in the nuts. First he say, "sure, I can be Cobra commander....then he thinks he'll be batman....Maybe he could team up with Nick Cage's superman.

 

[TaylorMcManus]

Over-all I thought it was great. One thing I was a little confused about, how did John/Robin know Bruce was Batman? Maybe I missed something, but I don't think they ever explained that.

 

[TKRalph]

Is John Blake the new Batman?!

 

[AnubisGuard]

Over-all I thought it was great. One thing I was a little confused about, how did John/Robin know Bruce was Batman? Maybe I missed something, but I don't think they ever explained that.

That was the whole point of that long conversation he had with Bruce early in the film, during their first meeting. He said he remembered Bruce visiting the orphanage where he was as a kid, and recognizing Bruce's public facade for the fake that it was. It established that they were the same type of man, and that's how John saw Bruce/Batman for who he really was. Like Bane, he wasn't taken in by the theatricality.

 

[nlschutd]

he's robin dude

Is John Blake the new Batman?!

 

[TraumaCaspian]

I know Nolan has always said he won't do another Batman movie, but he never said he wouldn't do a stand alone Robin movie.

 

[TaylorMcManus]

That was the whole point of that long conversation he had with Bruce early in the film, during their first meeting. He said he remembered Bruce visiting the orphanage where he was as a kid, and recognizing Bruce's public facade for the fake that it was. It established that they were the same type of man, and that's how John saw Bruce/Batman for who he really was. Like Bane, he wasn't taken in by the theatricality.

I get that, I guess I'm just a little confused on how that made him realize he was Batman though haha.

 

[JoMamma_Smurf]

OMG... Some people just have horrid comprehension skills. Seems like more and more as the years go by.... Sad.

 

[TaylorMcManus]

OMG... Some people just have horrid comprehension skills. Seems like more and more as the years go by.... Sad.

I'm not sure if this is aimed towards me or not, but if it is, I apologize for being dumb haha.

I must be missing a piece of the puzzle, because all I see is that he recognized Bruce's public facade as fake, and knows the type of man he really is. But what about that makes him think "Hey, he must be Batman?" :confused

 

[AnubisGuard]

But what about that makes him think "Hey, he must be Batman?" :confused

Because Blake's a smart guy. What secret must Bruce be protecting such that creating a phony-baloney "Bruce Wayne" persona is necessary? Batman has always been connected to Bruce's pain; Blake put two-and-two together.

(Really, the problem here is not that Blake figured it out but that other sharp folks like Gordan never caught on as well. Bruce is the only guy in Gotham who has both the resources and the motivation to be Batman. If you know he has money and a dark history with crime, it shouldn't be too hard to figure out.)

 

[TaylorMcManus]

Because Blake's a smart guy. What secret must Bruce be protecting such that creating a phony-baloney "Bruce Wayne" persona is necessary? Batman has always been connected to Bruce's pain; Blake put two-and-two together.

(Really, the problem here is not that Blake figured it out but that other sharp folks like Gordan never caught on as well.)

Alright, so it's just as simple as him being smart enough to figure it out. I thought I might have been missing something important haha. I found it a bit strange that Gordan couldn't figure it out too. I actually kind of assumed he knew it was Bruce all along, until the end when he seemed surprised to find out.

 

[DuneMuadDib]

Gordon could figure it out if he wanted to. In Batman: Year One he did. He just chooses not to actually work it out.

As for people generally not working it out, that's the whole point of the foppish persona he cultivates as Bruce Wayne. Get the public thinking he's a rich playboy idiot and people won't think he's capable of being Batman.

That's the thing that bugs me about Grant Morrison's Batman, Inc. title. It has Bruce saying publicly that he finances Batman. To me that seems like a stupid idea because it draws too much attention to both of his personas concurrently which I would think makes it more likely for people to put two and two together.

 

[da wesheb]

Honestly, I don't understand how people can sit here and deny a 4th film in the series with 100% certainty. Lets not forget that Nolan was originally against a 3rd film, we see where that got us. If he wanted to end it then he should've killed Batman in that blast. Instead, Nolan gave the Batcave to a predecessor in Robin John Blake and reestablished a darker Gotham.

Batman Begins set up TDK's theme of "Escalation" with the Gordon's Joker speech right before the credits.

TDK set up DKR by destroying Batman's image right before the credits.

HOPEFULLY: DKR sets up Batman 4/Nightwing by showing someone new standing in the Batcave right before the credits

This could be a nod to Batman Inc. where Bruce is largely retired in Gotham but works around the world or they could dip into something along the lines of Batman Beyond (which I think would fit perfectly) Where an elderly Bruce Wayne shows the young gun the ropes while messy copy cat villains terrorize a futuristic Gotham.

We could be in line for something amazing, and with the modern day obsession with the 5+ film events (Twilight, Harry Potter, Pirates of the Caribbean) I don't think it is entirely out of the realm of possibility to see at least one more film. Maybe it isn't definite, but there is some writing on the wall.

 

[Sundowner]

Is John Blake the new Batman?!

Despite the whole Robin thing, yes he will be Gothams symbol for justice and protector as the Batman. It would be silly to have him has a new masked character as Batman has already established as a symbol.

Do people seriously think he going to become a new hero as Robin?! I've heard this off forums as well. :facepalm

 

[dbalschi]

Do people seriously think he going to become a new hero as Robin?! I've heard this off forums as well. :facepalm

Maybe not as Robin, but I could see him starting out as Nightwing before jumping into the suit.

 

[Sundowner]

Maybe not as Robin, but I could see him starting out as Nightwing before jumping into the suit.

Nightwing would be cool however don't you think that since the Batman has already been established as Gotham's protector and symbol for justice that he would just take the cowl? If some new costumed person showed up it would kind of be going in reverse having to go through the same hurtles Bruce Wayne did. The fact that Batman is no longer seen as the vigilante and the Bat-Signal has been fixed :lol

 

[AnubisGuard]

The fact that Batman is no longer seen as the vigilante and the Bat-Signal has been fixed :lol

From Gordan's obvious surprise, I figured Blake had repaired the batsignal personally. So that implies he's intending to continue the Batman persona.