The Dark Knight Rises (Post-release)

da wesheb said:
Honestly, I don't understand how people can sit here and deny a 4th film in the series with 100% certainty. Lets not forget that Nolan was originally against a 3rd film, we see where that got us. If he wanted to end it then he should've killed Batman in that blast. Instead, Nolan gave the Batcave to a predecessor in Robin John Blake and reestablished a darker Gotham.
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I never saw anything indicating Nolan was against a third film. The most I've seen is some trepidation about the third film because third installments usually aren't good and some worries about another sequel being redundant.

With WB wanting to churn out a JLA movie the Nolan franchise is D-E-D dead. They can't use Bale-Batman in JLA, so that character will have to be rebooted. There is no way in hell they'd have more Nolan-verse films with JLA featuring a different continuity. The franchise is over.

We could be in line for something amazing, and with the modern day obsession with the 5+ film events (Twilight, Harry Potter, Pirates of the Caribbean) I don't think it is entirely out of the realm of possibility to see at least one more film. Maybe it isn't definite, but there is some writing on the wall.
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Those first two examples are adaptations of books, so they don't quite support your argument, it's not like the filmmakers pulled a new story out of their asses for either of those franchises.
 
AnubisGuard said:
From Gordan's obvious surprise, I figured Blake had repaired the batsignal personally. So that implies he's intending to continue the Batman persona.
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I didn't think about Blake being the one who repaired the Bat Signal :facepalm now I feel dumb :lol
 
Dorian Gray said:
I didn't think about Blake being the one who repaired the Bat Signal :facepalm now I feel dumb :lol
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If he believes bruce/batman is dead and doesn't know that he's being given the keys to the batman kingdom - why would he be the one repairing the signal? It's the dead last scene where he realizes he's being given the cowl, or other suit or whatever popped up out of the bottom of the cave.

Gotta be Bruce that fixed it so jr can be called to action when needed.
 
Assuming what we see at the end occurred in that order. Either way I am fine with Bruce or Robin fixing the signal.
 
I could nitpick some of the minor things in the movie but as a whole this one really delivered the goods. It can stand alone but closes the books on alot of questions. I was talking to a buddy of mine and how I've been on a Graphic Novel kick. There are alot of scenes pulled directly from the books. One of the funniest lines "So that's what the feels like" is also in the comics.

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I'm planning on seeing it again. That says alot since with the price of tickets these days I see it once buy it on video a few months later. As a batman fan I didn't like the ending so much but as a fan of film I loved the character arc and the closure they put on it. Overall? Loved it. Great action, great acting, wonderful cinematography. (y)thumbsup:thumbsup
 
DuneMuadDib said:
With WB wanting to churn out a JLA movie the Nolan franchise is D-E-D dead. They can't use Bale-Batman in JLA, so that character will have to be rebooted. There is no way in hell they'd have more Nolan-verse films with JLA featuring a different continuity. The franchise is over.
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So it wouldn't make any sense to you if they ran a JGL Batman film around the same time as Man Of Steel, which is being produced by Nolan? You prefer them going out, finding a new Batman/Bruce Wayne and establishing a new Gotham with new faces for all the characters? Seems like the exact opposite of a good idea. But believe what you want, I just refuse to accept with deafening certainty that this trilogy would not be continued. I'm looking at it like the Bourne Series at this point. Trilogy completed, same universe, different agent, new movie.
 
da wesheb said:
So it wouldn't make any sense to you if they ran a JGL Batman film around the same time as Man Of Steel, which is being produced by Nolan? You prefer them going out, finding a new Batman/Bruce Wayne and establishing a new Gotham with new faces for all the characters? Seems like the exact opposite of a good idea. But believe what you want, I just refuse to accept with deafening certainty that this trilogy would not be continued. I'm looking at it like the Bourne Series at this point. Trilogy completed, same universe, different agent, new movie.
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If they introduced metahuman heroes into the Nolan's Batman universe it would cause damage to his trilogy. We go through his trilogy without an hint of any metahumans then bam oh they exist. That's like having Ra's al Ghul come back as an evil twin or something. I don't buy it, maybe if they had introduced the concept early on but that wasn't the plan or the point. Metahumans don't fit in this Batman universe, it would cheapen and take away so much from the trilogy. Not to mention be completely out of place.

Start over that way you don't have to try to incorporate all of Nolan's Batman mythos into the JLA.
 
GeneralFROSTY said:
I'm really surprised by all the mixed reactions to this film - I understand no movie can please everyone, but I was hoping for more support for it.
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Remember, normal movie fans do not cobble together replicas out of camera light grips, chewed bubble gum and bailing wire. Normal fans don't pay hundreds of dollars for bootlegged copies of some studio's intellectual property. Notmal adults do not dress up in costumes to pay homage to some fictional archetype at a premier or convention.

I am not saying there is anyyhing wrong with that. I am saying that the RPF is composed of X movie fans and by X I am talking extreme. So you are sometimes going to see extreme opinions driven by extremely strange motives.

"The film was not faithful to panels four, five and six of issue #2191 printed in 1989! This was not canon. It sucked!"

"I did not experience a nerdgasm in my pants the way I did with first film. The Director has clearly lost his touch."

"I would have done it differently and even though I am not a Director and in reality I am a naval officer/a pizza maker/a dish washer I would have done it better and everyone would have loved mine more."

"The McGuffinators were clearly wrapped with straps made of Pleather and not LEATHER like in the earlier movies/episodes. The lack of continuity has totally ruined the franchise for me.!"

And so on, ad nauseum. Then there are those RPFers who will just tell you whether they had a good time or not.

Now that I've seen the movie, I thought it was a bit long but it kind of needed to be. This is a complicated plot that has to resolve a lot of characters, find resolution for old plots and newly introduced ones . I liked it as well as TDK but I liked it in a different WAY than I liked TDK. Which makes sense because this is a different movie than TDK. Not inferior. Just different.

I had a good time. Go see it! Maybe you'll have a good time too !
 
Nighteyes said:
Gordon's funeral speech contains some of the same dialogue as Kirk's last lines from WOK. Does that count?
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He was quoting from Dicken's a Tale of Two Cities. Jeez, have you punks even got an idea who the Scarlet Pimpernel was? :lol. Not that he was involved in this or anything....
 
da wesheb said:
So it wouldn't make any sense to you if they ran a JGL Batman film around the same time as Man Of Steel, which is being produced by Nolan? You prefer them going out, finding a new Batman/Bruce Wayne and establishing a new Gotham with new faces for all the characters? Seems like the exact opposite of a good idea. But believe what you want, I just refuse to accept with deafening certainty that this trilogy would not be continued. I'm looking at it like the Bourne Series at this point. Trilogy completed, same universe, different agent, new movie.
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The Bourne sereis is probably not a good comparison. It's based on a series of books and it still focuses on Jason Bourne I believe and they're way past 3 books. Plus, they pretty much tossed the books out the window when doing the second one. The only reason they're switching characters is because Matt Damon didn't want to do it and they opted not to pull a james bond and just change actors.

Never say never, as they say. Nolan may not be looking to do another batman, but it doesn't keep the studio from continuing it themselves. It also doesn't mean that an idea couldn't pop into Nolan head that he really wants to do.

As for a Justice League movie, the words out of DC's own mouths is 'cash in on the Avengers'. Forcing a batman reboot way too soon (like 2 years from now) isn't going to help them do JLA, in fact it could really hurt it. Marvel took their time and waited to make sure the hero films did well enough on their own before committing to the Avengers. DC wants to cash in. Doing it fast for the money isn't really the way to get it to work.
 
did anybody else find it odd in the stock exchange sequence, how fast daylight turned to night. when they took off in the motorcycles it was daylight, then came the sequence in the tunnels and it turns pitch black outside when they come back out onto the streets.

Did Batman's energy sapping gun turn off the sun too??
 
TK8049 said:
My Bruce doesn't take off for 8 years and become a recluse. This movie is terrible!
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Really?! Honestly. I love Batman, arguably more than most, as I even have a Batman tat, but I can love this film for what it is and appreciate the story.

Seems silly to me to write off this film for that reason alone, but to each their own. Personally, I think it makes perfect sense and makes it all the more enjoyable to see Bruce rediscover his sense of purpose and become Batman one more time.
 
TK8049 said:
My Bruce doesn't take off for 8 years and become a recluse. This movie is terrible!
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This is one of my biggest complaints with this movie.

My Batman - whose parents were murdered by Joe Chill, a common thug during a random robbery - doesn't disappear because mob activity died down. He maintains his vigilance for the common man - especially against the Joe Chills of the world.

But, then again Nolan and company have perversed the Batman characters since day one... and well, people seem to like it. ...doesn't mean that it shouldn't be Ok to not like them.
 
The metahuman argument is a good one but if you look at it, none of the JLA members have been established in their own movies yet. Nolan's trilogy can take place before Clark Kent becomes Superman or before Martian Manhunter comes to Earth, etc. This could lead to much larger than life Batman villains for JGL's version of the Vigilante. Guys like Freeze, Clayface or even Killer Croc. Applying TDK's theme of escalation to the entire universe basically.

Making JGL the Robert Downey Jr of the DC movies. Have him appear in Man of Steel in some minor capacity, but at the same time, Batman is a loner and doesn't necessarily need to cross into other people's worlds. The Avengers films barely even made reference to one another aside from S.H.I.E.L.D. cameos
 
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