The complete evolution of Luke's X-wing helmet.

VERY VERY cool, thank you for posting that info. I've been sitting on a raw X-Wing bucket but couldn't decide which one I wanted, until now.

AWESOME!

Any chance you have the Wedge evolution as well??
 
Wow what a great and exhaustive write -up, very thorough!

Thanks Steve!

Hey Steve, if you have the chance would love to hear more about how you painted the Paint Masters.
 
Awsome write up. I thoroughly enjoyed it. :thumbsup
also great to know it's still in the archives.

Ben
 
Wow, thanks a bunch for the response guys! I'm thrilled to see that I'm not the only one who still get the juices flowing by a good prop story. I was just starting to wonder where all those great storys went!? Have everything already been discovered? Man, just think back to those awesome Trooper ID threads where people used match up buckets to their onscreen moments comparing glue residue and tiny scratches! Those were the days.:)

Zenwalker, it would be a pleasure since it was quite an experiance in it's self. It'll have to wait though since it would be quite an massive post, requiering a load of pics to illustrate. Currently my old progress pics and ref material are scattered all over. It would take some time to sort it all out.

Anyway, regarding the paints this much I can tell. I'm 100% sure standard Humbrol Enamels where used on the original. Behind the scene pics from that period show Humbrol tins all over the place. My original plan was to do what the Fett heads did with Boba and match up the exact tins. I figured it wouldn't be that hard since the Humbrol line isn't that big. Half way thru I learnt from a friend (whos into ww2 tanks and aircraft modeling) that Humrol discontinued most of their paints in the late 70's.:( Most of the shades were redone and renamed.

I did however stick to Humbrol enamels on the efx masters but all colors were custom mixed. Everything was hand painted with a brush just like the original.

DeLucks Designs, I haven't studied Wedge as closely as Luke. Most of the ref material I have on him are crapy low res-screen caps. Here's what I notised though, concider the following as a the "mini evolution of Wedge"!:)

Wedge helmet in ANH was quite detailed with lots of hand painted black pinstripe detailing. It had the same wonky "V" styled decals as the rest of the ANH helmets. These were actually applied as two parts decals. One of the shelf sticker for the red or yellow circle and then a hand cut V on top. That's why there's not one V that matches another. For efx Luke helmet I actually made each V decal individually so they all would match their onscreen conterpart. The interior detailing was the same for him as the rest.

In ESB it appears quite differently though. It's hard to tell if it's the same helmet that's been repainted or one of the background stunts that's gotten a new "Wedge" job. It now lacks most of the black pinstripes and the decals are all new. They don't match the ANH's any longer. The chin cup attaches ESB style just like Lukes and it shares the same "Tipped off" mic.

For ROTJ where he get's quite a lot of screen time they reused the ESB helmet. Here as well it get's the same treatment as Luke's ROTJ version. New chin cup which are attached ROTJ style. It also seems (this one is for you GINO!":)) like it's fitted with the same moulded foam interior as Luke. What's interesting though is that Wedge uses a mic, looking exactly as the one used in ESB. Remember that Luke didn't have this feature in ROTJ.

Cheers,

Steve.
 
Brilliant summary Steve. Man, remember when we started all this? We were using video screen caps because the DVD's hadn't been released yet. :lol

Takes me right back to the good old days of researching this prop.

Cheers,

Chris
 
Steve,
many thanks for your detectiv work..its great!
For anyone who is interessted I had a picture from Dack Ralter ESB helmet
who was in the collection of Propstore.It looks to me that he had the same
foam interior than the Luke ROTJ but not sure.
 
Brilliant summary Steve. Man, remember when we started all this? We were using video screen caps because the DVD's hadn't been released yet. :lol

Takes me right back to the good old days of researching this prop.

Cheers,

Chris

Those were the days! I should probably had mentioned that the leg work of this research were made several years ago when me and Chris were working on he's first helmet. Just as he said most work was done from matchbox sized video caps! That was all we had back then. I remember that one of our biggest finds was that the black triangle shaped decal on the lower ramhorn was only fitted on one side. Now it's concidered common knowledge. Just the same I'm sure efx gonna have lots of complaints from people claiming they got a bum copy missing a decal!lol

Cheers,
Steve
 
Steve,
many thanks for your detectiv work..its great!
For anyone who is interessted I had a picture from Dack Ralter ESB helmet
who was in the collection of Propstore.It looks to me that he had the same
foam interior than the Luke ROTJ but not sure.

Dude thats awesome! I've never seen it before. Not realy sure what to make of it. From that angle it's almost impossible to tell if it matches up with Dak's helmet. Very interesting, got any more pics?

Thanks for sharing,
Steve
 
Steve,
many thanks for your detectiv work..its great!
For anyone who is interessted I had a picture from Dack Ralter ESB helmet
who was in the collection of Propstore.It looks to me that he had the same
foam interior than the Luke ROTJ but not sure.


That's actually not Dak's helmet.
I believe it is an ESB era promo helmet.
It's construction is completely different and has a different mohawk front cover plate.


Here's a link showing an accounting of all the known x-wing helmets seen on screen for anyone interested.
I had made this quite awhile ago and Steve's thread inspired me to resurrect it.
LOTS of helmets re-used throughout the trilogy.


X-WING/Y-WING HELMET COMPILATION -an accounting of all screen-matched helmets
http://www.therpf.com/f9/x-wing-hel...ll-screen-matched-helmets-134007/#post2033142





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Gino,
I am not sure if it is a promo or movie used helmet but I am sure the padding are similar to the Luke ROTJ Helmet. The helmet was showed last year on SDCC or Star Wars Celebration. Here are another shot.
 
Wow! Fantastic info on this helmet.
I've always been torn between Luke's X-Wing helmet and Boba Fett's ESB helmet being my favorite from the trilogy.
Glad I snagged one of the efx ANH helmets!
 
I just want to say I agree with Funky's thoughts on how these original props were treated... I mean WTH?

Especially in the case of the weathering wearing off from being handled?

I mean I know some of us might sit and pet an original helmet... but what the hell were these guys doing between takes? Playing hot potato? Or maybe soccer? LOL!
 
Well as far as the weathering goes I guess it's very safe to say that it didn't stick very well. Lukes's helmet wasn't an exeption. Non of the original anh or esb helmets that survived filming has any left today.

That seemed to change with Rotj. Seems like the US prop makers relied more on their airbrushes then the UK prop department. Most helmets weathered for rotj still has most of the grime present. However, the rotj weathering techniques (most likely ordinary hobby paints airbrushed and splattered on) looked more fake IMO.

Cheers,
Steve
 
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