The complete evolution of Luke's X-wing helmet.

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  1. STEVE THE SWEDE

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    The complete evolution of Lukes X-wing helmet.

    Hi fellow X-wing helmet fans! As some of you might know I was commissioned a little more then a year ago to paint both the ANH and ESB masters for Efx Collectibles Luke X-wing helmet. Now that both of these releases are about to finally find homes among X-wing helmet fans I thought that I would share some info about this amazing prop! Imo, this is one of the most overlooked helmets in the original trilogy. There’s tons of stuff regarding troopers, Fett, Vader and so on but not so much about this rather high profile helmet. The stuff I’m posting here are the pre- work done by me with loads of help from Chris King and Jez Hill. Once I was attached to the Efx project I felt that in order to produce accurate masters for the different versions I needed to fully understand the back story of the original prop and all it’s different incarnations. Believe me, this helmet’s been thru a lot. A true work horse of the original trilogy. I’m in no way taking credit for every bit of info regarding this helmet and if you feel you’ve made discoverys that’s being posted here, just let me know!:)

    OK, starting from the beginning! As many of you already know AA produced the 20 ABS vacformed helmets (pulled from a master made from a modified APH helmet) for ANH. There were no difference between the heroes and background helmets apart from the visor colors and interior detailing. At the Elstree art department paint schemes were applied to the heroes while the backgrounds remained unpainted white ABS with blue silkscreened rebel logo decals as the only add ons. Continuing on with Lukes helmet which is the main focus of this thread.

    Lukes helmet didn’t differ one bit from the rest of the bunch, it didn’t receive any extra treatment or detailing it’s exactly the same as the rest. What’s interesting though is how many different faces or stages (if you prefer) it went thru. Also, was more then one made? Does it still excist today? Well, here goes:

    Lukes helmet started of in a rather unfamiliar way, looking nothing like how most of us would define it today. At first people used to argue that more then one was used in ANH. Let me asure you though, only one Luke helmet was used throughout the original film. It did however receive several re-paints. The key to ID this is the rebel logos. They stayed on throughout the entire trilogy and never got replaced. Detail painting changed, weathering was redone and several things got tuched up but the decals stayed put with the only difference being more and more scratches as time progressed.

    Moving on to the first “incarnation” of the helmet. This is without doubt the weirdest face. Looking very little like the final paint scheme which wouldn’t be established until the cockpit shooting.

    ANH_HERO_PAINT_SCHEME_I.jpg

    This version is only seen as Luke enters the Yavin hanger. Please note that the yellow box stripes extends all the way down the Mohawk sides. It’s also missing the red cheek squares as well as the thick black marker outlines around the rebel logos. Besides from the same foam liner the troopers had it doesn’t seem to have any interior detailing.

    Second stage. This version is used before take off, when Luke enters the cockpit and also when he jumps out after the mission.

    ANH_HERO_PAINT_SCHEME_II.jpg

    It’s starting to look more like final prop but there’s still a couple of things to take notice of. The rebel insignias are still missing the black outlines. As a matter of fact all of the black trims and outlines are yet to be applied. The yellow “side arcs” are also different as they extends all the way up to the grey pinstripe arcs. As you can see in the insert picture it’s flaking quite badly so it seems like the Humbrol Enamel paint that was used for the paint scheme didn’t agree with the ABS plastic.

    Thired stage, weathering stage 1. Enteres the version we all know and love!

    ANH_HERO_PAINT_SCHEME_III.jpg

    It now has all the signature details. From here on nothing regarding the paint scheme will change. Sure, several things is going to be tuched upped and repaired due to flaking and chipping but the paint scheme will stay the same. It has the Racal head set and the ear cups are installed. Please note though that the head set was worn on the actors head (they most likely shared the same set) and was never part of the helmet. Whenever Luke carries he’s helmet (this goes for the entire trilogy) the head set is missing.

    Now we need to start talking weathering as this is also a factor that keeps changing. It seems that the paint wasn’t the only thing that had a hard time sticking to the ABS, so did the weathering. It’s been suggested (but never confirmed) that the art department used a mixture of pine tar and shellac that was sponged on to grease down the helmets. Whatever was used it didn’t stick very well and it seems that even light handling wore it off. Please note that the stage three helmet has a very even and rather thick layer of weathering applied. Not many scratches are present and it looks rather dull and uninteresting as far as weathering goes. Here’s a rather interesting note. It ONLY appears like this in the cockpit scenes filmed from the side.

    Thired stage, weathering stage 2.

    Here’s my favourite version of the ANH helmet or the “trench run” version as I like to refer to it as.

    ANH_HERO_PAINT_SCHEME_III_W2.jpg

    Compared to the “weathering stage 1” version which was used in the side shoots. This one is only used in front shoots of the cockpit and when the targeting computer emerges. These scenes were most likely filmed after the side facing ones. The weathering as well as the paint job has received a lot more scratches and are also starting to wear off on several places. This is the version I based the Efx master on. IMO, this is the coolest looking “stage” of the ANH helmet. It’s also fairly close to how the helmet later appared in the famous publicity stills that was shot after filming ended. I also made a master which replicated that stage for Efx but in the end they went for the trench run master. Not a bad decision since that’s the helmets true on screen appearance.

    OK, that’s it for ANH. I can see now that this has the possibility of ending up as the longest thread I’ve ever written on the RPF! For those of you who I haven’t managed to bore to death just yet, on to ESB!

    ESB Hero, weathering stage 1.

    As you all know the Hoth scenes filmed in Finse were among the first ones filmed for Empire. The crew brought along Lukes left over ANH helmet and it was used in all outdoor action.

    ESB_HERO_W1.jpg

    This version is basically the ANH helmet in it’s “publicity stage” appearance. Everything looks exactly as it did when last used during the ANH photo session. As with all the non cockpit scenes it lacks the microphone. Also, note that the crew have figured out a way to position the visor in it’s up position. This helmet was first thought of as a new helmet due to the fact that the decals didn’t line up with the ANH appearance. Turned out it was nothing more then an optical illusion, the film was flipped in certain scenes. J In the image above it has be “unflipped” in photoshop.

    ESB Hero weathering stage 2.

    My alltime favourite SW helmet! It has it all!

    ESB_HERO_W2.jpg

    This is how it appears in all cockpit scenes in ESB. Both snowspeeder scenes as well as the X-wing. I’m assuming though that the X-wing scenes were filmed after the snowspeeder scenes since it has more scratches and paint chipping in the X-wing cockpit. It’s received a new heavy layer of weathering most likely with both sponges and airbrush. Once you study it closely it certainly appears like a wonderful complex multilayered weathering job. The chin cup mounts differently and the mic has the top fallen off. This was actually a very cool find discovered by Bryan at Efx. I think it was Gary Kurtz himself who pointed him in that direction. For years everybody has assumed a newer more sleek mic was used. It was also fitted with a tan colored pad under the visor. Probably for the comfort of the actors.

    ESB Hero helmet 2!

    Now here’s something interesting! I was dead certain that ONLY one helmet was made and used thru out the trilogy. I was perfectly happy with that but I figured I would go over ESB one more time just to be sure. After I freeze framed every single scene I discovered that there was indeed ANOTHER….

    ESBHELMET2.jpg

    For some unexplainable reason the Dagobah scenes were honored with a completely new helmet! It’s only used here and it replicates the original VERY well. The only real give away is the perfectly aligned Rebel insignias. The fate of this helmet is unknown. It doesn’t seem to be in the archive today and it was not used again for ROTJ. This is a true mystery prop! There’s really no good reason for this helmet to excist. The original was still at hand, we know that since it was used again for it’s brief appearance in ROTJ.

    Alright, were almost there. Come on, if you read on for this long I’m sure you’re up for ROTJ as well!

    ROTJ Hero.

    Say good bye to a true work horse of the original trilogy! This is the last time this prop will be seen in it’s original state.

    ROTJ_HERO.jpg

    Yes, believe it or not but it is the original ANH helmet under all that dirt! The chin strap has been mounted differently and there’s no mic tip. The visor is also mounted further down then how it was in ANH and ESB. Non the less, it’s the same helmet. Sadly there doesn’t seem to be any reference of this version out there. At least nothing that’s been published. The pics that’s available are all caps from the film.

    Summing it up! Pheeew, my fingers hurt! The images used here were all screen caps. Nothing that hasn’t been available for years. Sadly Photobucket has resized them much smaller.:( If anybody wants to see them full size, give me a howler and I’ll mail them to you.
    Also, while I painted the masters for Efx I was indeed provided with a huge amount of reference material, some never published. I would like to note though that nothing really new that we didn’t already know surfaced from them. However, what they did do was to show this helmets different stages in a resolution that completely blew my mind! They showed the helmet in such a scale that you could even see individual brush strokes in the paint! It was spectacular to be treated to such an intimate look of the helmet!:)

    Finally, spit it out you say, what the heck happened to this prop! Sorry, folks. I can’t really give an solid answere to that. There are some speculations, one thats certainly more interesting then the others. I’ve won’t go into it though until there’s pictures to back these claims up. It would only lead to speculations. Hopefully some one will pitch in with info regarding this. It won’t be me though. I need pics as proof before I completely buy a story.

    Thanks for your interest, hope you enjoyed the reading. OH, one more final thing….There…was …NO…real…APH’s…used…in…the…trilogy…PERIOD!:)

    Cheers,

    Steve.
     
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  2. ave4uevoli

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    Thank you very much for summing it all up and adding pictures. This is GREAT and extremely helpful in trying to get all the different versions organized.
     
  3. Art Andrews

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    And this is going straight to facebook! Awesome stuff!
     
  4. GINO

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    Couple things to add here.
    For the ROTJ incarnation, the chin cup was a different design than the ANH/ESB and the helmet was fitted with a cast foam liner instead of earcups and star-shaped foam (which preceded it).

    Also, the original Luke x-wing helmet still resides in the archives, although it is in really bad shape.



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  5. Apollo

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    Man and I thought the Troopers had a history!

    Great info Steve and always good to see you around!
     
  6. xstoys

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    Great reading material!
     
  7. STEVE THE SWEDE

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    Gino, cool info regarding the rotj chin cup! Didn't notice that. I'm not sure about the liner though, could just be darker earcups. So hard to tell by the limited ref material.

    I was told the same about the original helmet. I'm not saying that it isn't in the archive, just that no pics were presented to prove it. I asked to see them but never did. Have you seen it?

    Cheers,
    Steve.
     
  8. GINO

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    It's definitely cast foam.
    I believe the cast foam originated around the ESB era for promo helmets and then ended up getting used in ROTJ.



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  9. Mara Jade's Father

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    Wow, lots of great info. Lots of stuff I never noticed. Thank you for that.

    It seems weird how many detail stages the helmet went through on in ANH. I can understand it get scratched more, but to have paint details add bit by bit is suprising

    You mentioned which version of the ANH you used for your paint guide. Does that mean that the on Efx is shipping will not have the big chunck of rebel logo missing (ESB style) that is shown with the pre-sale info?

    I also am also sort of a pet peeve about the mic being included as a part of the helmet. It would seem that mic is a seperate headset since you never see a mic or its cord on a helmet that is off the head or worn away from the craft. However, for idealized purposes, I like it attached as all my replicas have mics and cords mounted to the helmet. Of course, if you know anything different about that, I would love to hear it.

    BTW: did any of your research come up with info on the mythical (I say mythical because I heard no official info) face mask. There is that one picture of a cast of it and helmet that is said to have been auction off (from what I heard). Apparently it is what the hose was suppose to attach to instead of the suit (which is why the hose is not attached in those pub stills and just tucked in the helmet).
     
  10. DW Design Studios

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    Wow, great stuff!!!!
     
  11. mrbungle

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    caution: this thread contains gino goodness!!!


    thanks for posting and gino for arguing against what you said.

    would not be a great rpf thread without him!!

    don't get offensive , gino, i have nothing but love for ya!!!
     
  12. STEVE THE SWEDE

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    Thanks guys! Glad you liked it! Man, think of how much "real work" you're able to pull working overtime on a Sunday. If my Boss ever joins the RPF I'm toast!

    Apollo, yeah, I'm telling you! Troopers are boring! Their time has come and gone.:) They are all white and look the same, I never could figure out trooper heads. Who am I trying to kid, I looooove troppers too and all the different versions. Peace!

    Gino, still not sure about the cast foam. I'm really hoping you to be right though. That would add a unique feature to the ROTJ version. It would be a ***** trying to replicate it properly but cool non the less. Anyhow, judging by the pic I posted I just don't see it. As I said, I would love to be proven wrong.

    Mara Jade, thanks man! I know you've got a great interest in this helmet too. Judging by your previous posts in the Efx thread it's easy to tell you've done your home work more then well!:) Yes, Efx based their version on my "trench run master". I still haven't seen the final helmet in person but I know that they have the right decals on it. Sooooo much work and time was put into the AI decal files it would be a shame if they ended up not being used. The decals are IMO one of the coolest features of this release. I've never seen Luke's helmet markings being properly replicated before this. Bryan has ashured me correct ones are on. I've also seen some still not published pics which confirms this.

    The masks were dumped (although VERY cool looking) for the same reason Tom Cruze didn't use he's in Top Gun (real pilots have told me he should have passed out like thirteen times). It would have covered up to much of the actors faces. Making it hard to see whos who.

    Cheers,

    Steve.
     
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  13. GINO

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    Here you go:


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  14. STEVE THE SWEDE

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    I'm beaten, you got me. Hard to argue against that!:) A pic truly says more then a 1000 words.

    Cheers,
    Steve
     
  15. GINO

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    Nonsense. We both just want the same thing, for proper info to be out there. :thumbsup
    And I think your write up was cool too. :)


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  16. Rick H

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    And as a new member I thank you both. I never even noticed the changes.
     
  17. OldKen

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    Great write up Steve! A LOT of info in a very short and sweet post.

    Interesting tidbit about the ROTJ interior. Sure looks exactly like that exhibit interior.
     
  18. Funky

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    I don't suppose we'll ever know for sure but I would be interested in knowing what they were doing with this helmet when it wasn't being worn. Did they just take it out in the street and kick the ever-loving crap out of it? You'd think they would be more careful storing it between takes (and movies) so that it would remain consistant. I understand if there were several...sure, treat it like hell, there are more on the shelf! But for them to use the exact same helmet from begining to end? It should have had it's own protective storage container...and the prop master needed to be fired.
     
  19. Got Maul

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    Now THAT is an RPF post for the archives. Great work and as you pointed out - Right under our nose. Bryan speaks so highly of you and I see why.
     
  20. Jedifyfe

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    Exactly! ALL HAIL THE STAR WARS HELMET RESEARCH NERDS!!!


    Great write up. :thumbsup
     
  21. DeLucks Designs

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    VERY VERY cool, thank you for posting that info. I've been sitting on a raw X-Wing bucket but couldn't decide which one I wanted, until now.

    AWESOME!

    Any chance you have the Wedge evolution as well??
     
  22. Zenwalker

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    Wow what a great and exhaustive write -up, very thorough!

    Thanks Steve!

    Hey Steve, if you have the chance would love to hear more about how you painted the Paint Masters.
     
  23. gizmo

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    Awsome write up. I thoroughly enjoyed it. :thumbsup
    also great to know it's still in the archives.

    Ben
     
  24. STEVE THE SWEDE

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    Wow, thanks a bunch for the response guys! I'm thrilled to see that I'm not the only one who still get the juices flowing by a good prop story. I was just starting to wonder where all those great storys went!? Have everything already been discovered? Man, just think back to those awesome Trooper ID threads where people used match up buckets to their onscreen moments comparing glue residue and tiny scratches! Those were the days.:)

    Zenwalker, it would be a pleasure since it was quite an experiance in it's self. It'll have to wait though since it would be quite an massive post, requiering a load of pics to illustrate. Currently my old progress pics and ref material are scattered all over. It would take some time to sort it all out.

    Anyway, regarding the paints this much I can tell. I'm 100% sure standard Humbrol Enamels where used on the original. Behind the scene pics from that period show Humbrol tins all over the place. My original plan was to do what the Fett heads did with Boba and match up the exact tins. I figured it wouldn't be that hard since the Humbrol line isn't that big. Half way thru I learnt from a friend (whos into ww2 tanks and aircraft modeling) that Humrol discontinued most of their paints in the late 70's.:( Most of the shades were redone and renamed.

    I did however stick to Humbrol enamels on the efx masters but all colors were custom mixed. Everything was hand painted with a brush just like the original.

    DeLucks Designs, I haven't studied Wedge as closely as Luke. Most of the ref material I have on him are crapy low res-screen caps. Here's what I notised though, concider the following as a the "mini evolution of Wedge"!:)

    Wedge helmet in ANH was quite detailed with lots of hand painted black pinstripe detailing. It had the same wonky "V" styled decals as the rest of the ANH helmets. These were actually applied as two parts decals. One of the shelf sticker for the red or yellow circle and then a hand cut V on top. That's why there's not one V that matches another. For efx Luke helmet I actually made each V decal individually so they all would match their onscreen conterpart. The interior detailing was the same for him as the rest.

    In ESB it appears quite differently though. It's hard to tell if it's the same helmet that's been repainted or one of the background stunts that's gotten a new "Wedge" job. It now lacks most of the black pinstripes and the decals are all new. They don't match the ANH's any longer. The chin cup attaches ESB style just like Lukes and it shares the same "Tipped off" mic.

    For ROTJ where he get's quite a lot of screen time they reused the ESB helmet. Here as well it get's the same treatment as Luke's ROTJ version. New chin cup which are attached ROTJ style. It also seems (this one is for you GINO!":)) like it's fitted with the same moulded foam interior as Luke. What's interesting though is that Wedge uses a mic, looking exactly as the one used in ESB. Remember that Luke didn't have this feature in ROTJ.

    Cheers,

    Steve.
     
  25. cking

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    Brilliant summary Steve. Man, remember when we started all this? We were using video screen caps because the DVD's hadn't been released yet. :lol

    Takes me right back to the good old days of researching this prop.

    Cheers,

    Chris
     
  26. TheLipmannToy

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    Really Detailed. THx for sharing
     
  27. Trilogy

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    Thanks for taking the time to post such an extremely interesting and comprehensive read.
     
  28. ywingfighter

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    Steve,
    many thanks for your detectiv work..its great!
    For anyone who is interessted I had a picture from Dack Ralter ESB helmet
    who was in the collection of Propstore.It looks to me that he had the same
    foam interior than the Luke ROTJ but not sure.
     
  29. STEVE THE SWEDE

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    Those were the days! I should probably had mentioned that the leg work of this research were made several years ago when me and Chris were working on he's first helmet. Just as he said most work was done from matchbox sized video caps! That was all we had back then. I remember that one of our biggest finds was that the black triangle shaped decal on the lower ramhorn was only fitted on one side. Now it's concidered common knowledge. Just the same I'm sure efx gonna have lots of complaints from people claiming they got a bum copy missing a decal!lol

    Cheers,
    Steve
     
  30. STEVE THE SWEDE

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    Dude thats awesome! I've never seen it before. Not realy sure what to make of it. From that angle it's almost impossible to tell if it matches up with Dak's helmet. Very interesting, got any more pics?

    Thanks for sharing,
    Steve
     
  31. ywingfighter

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    Hi Steve,
    yes I had some more pictures of the helmet.
    Pm me your e-mail and I send it to you.
    Best regards
    Frank
     
  32. GINO

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    That's actually not Dak's helmet.
    I believe it is an ESB era promo helmet.
    It's construction is completely different and has a different mohawk front cover plate.


    Here's a link showing an accounting of all the known x-wing helmets seen on screen for anyone interested.
    I had made this quite awhile ago and Steve's thread inspired me to resurrect it.
    LOTS of helmets re-used throughout the trilogy.


    X-WING/Y-WING HELMET COMPILATION -an accounting of all screen-matched helmets
    http://www.therpf.com/f9/x-wing-hel...ll-screen-matched-helmets-134007/#post2033142





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  33. ywingfighter

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    Gino,
    I am not sure if it is a promo or movie used helmet but I am sure the padding are similar to the Luke ROTJ Helmet. The helmet was showed last year on SDCC or Star Wars Celebration. Here are another shot.
     
  34. GINO

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    I know, I've held it. ;)
    Def the same type of cast foam padding.


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  35. voice in the crowd

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    Hi Guys,

    Brilliant thread with great info :thumbsup
     
  36. yakcam

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    Awesome info! Thanks for the time to do it Mate :thumbsup

    Cheers,

    Kraig
     
  37. superjedi

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    Wow! Fantastic info on this helmet.
    I've always been torn between Luke's X-Wing helmet and Boba Fett's ESB helmet being my favorite from the trilogy.
    Glad I snagged one of the efx ANH helmets!
     
  38. OldKen

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    I just want to say I agree with Funky's thoughts on how these original props were treated... I mean WTH?

    Especially in the case of the weathering wearing off from being handled?

    I mean I know some of us might sit and pet an original helmet... but what the hell were these guys doing between takes? Playing hot potato? Or maybe soccer? LOL!
     
  39. STEVE THE SWEDE

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    Well as far as the weathering goes I guess it's very safe to say that it didn't stick very well. Lukes's helmet wasn't an exeption. Non of the original anh or esb helmets that survived filming has any left today.

    That seemed to change with Rotj. Seems like the US prop makers relied more on their airbrushes then the UK prop department. Most helmets weathered for rotj still has most of the grime present. However, the rotj weathering techniques (most likely ordinary hobby paints airbrushed and splattered on) looked more fake IMO.

    Cheers,
    Steve
     
  40. Qrest Fourstar

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    Cool thread!!
     
  41. jediscout

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    Love this thread. Have often thought that if I hadn't gotten so derailed by lightsabers, I'd be all over the 'good guy' helmets--they're freaking awesome.

    I always assumed the Luke helmet was one of multiple variations--had no idea they managed to get so much mileage out of it.
     
  42. BenObi

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    Great info Steve! Really enjoyed reading.
    Forgive me if this has been posted elsewhere, but can you share pics of your paint masters for the ANH and ESB helmets?
    Also, now that pics of the final ANH helmet are up on efx's site and in hand pics have shown up from a Hong Kong collector, what is your impression of efx's final product?
    Regards,
    Ben
     
  43. Mara Jade's Father

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    I got an answer to my own question.

    Efx sent an email out to those who pre-ordered. They sent a link to their gallery of the final version of the ANH X-Wing helmet and those ESB chips are not there.

    Very excited about this helmet.
     
  44. Jinyo

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    Fantastic article! I had no idea the different versions Luke had in ANH alone.
     
  45. nick daring

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    New helmet up for auction with the foam interior-

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  46. Howlrunner

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    NECRO POST!

    Fantastic thread! I'm working on painting up an x-wing helmet kit and this thread has been a great read. Now anyone able to tell me what version of the helmet THIS is supposed to be?

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    Taken at the Lucasfilm Archives back around 1997

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    Notice that the black outline line runs along the side of the Mohawk right to the Mohawk box, and is BELOW the yellow line on the side of the Mohawk. It also have the black triangle on the ramhorn on BOTH sides.

    All of the ANH pics posted here are missing the black stripe along the front portion of the Mohawk side.
    The ESB weathering stage 1 has the black stripe ABOVE the yellow stripe.
    The ESB weathering stage 2 appears to have a black stripe above AND below the yellow stripe. And is obvious very heavily weathered.
    ESB helmet II appears to be the same the black BELOW the yellow line, but is missing the black triangles on the ramhorns.

    WAS the helmet I have linked to actually ever screen used? Was is made for production? Was is just made for exhibition? And if made for exhibition, why was it painted to match so closely, but was still done inaccurately?
     
  47. steve48442

    steve48442 Active Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    do you know what helmet was used for the basic design . was it a baseball helmet or a football helmet ?
     
  48. ywingfighter

    ywingfighter Well-Known Member

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    The Basic helmet is a APH-6B Flight helmet!
     
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  49. James Kenobi 1138

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    The helmet was made by vac-forming ABS over the left and right sides of a U.S. AHP-6B pilot helmet.
     

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