The Best Movies of All Time - How much do you agree??

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Trooper_trent

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On a whim, I googled "The Best Movies" just to break it down into the simplest terms possible, and clicked on the very first Google result (top rated) to find the above result, linked here. Top Movies - Best Movies of 2019 and All Time - Rotten Tomatoes

In my experience, rarely do critics scores reflect my own opinions, or the opinions of most fans, hence the vast discrepancies of the Rotten Tomatoes "Tomatometer" compared to the "Audience Score". It's a strange phenomenon that there seems to be such a large disconnect between film critics and the everyday moviegoers. Films the vast majority of the general public love and are widely acclaimed, but receive a low score by critics, compared to high scored movies by critics, only to receive little appreciation by the audience as a whole.
Why such a disconnect? Who are these critics? Why does their opinion differ so much from the rest of us? Why do they matter more than the fan base that spends the money? How much do you agree with them? Is Black Panther REALLY the BEST film of all time?? I can think of so many films that are infinitely more impact full, meaningful, that don't even make the top 50 list.

What say you?
 
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Trooper_trent

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For the best movies of all time the "Princess Bride" should be on there. I would agree with them in "Roma".
Right? I can think of SO many other classic films that have affected the culture of the time or been otherwise impact-full rather than Black Panther.
Hello, what about Citizen Kane, The Godfather, Casablanca, Gone With The Wind, etc. Really? Blank Panther is the number 1 film of ALL TIME?? EVER???
 

Sundowner

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There are a lot of variables here. Streaming for example is huge and might play a part. I wonder how they are scoring these
 

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Trooper_trent

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There are a lot of variables here. Streaming for example is huge and might play a part. I wonder how they are scoring these
Just for example. Regarding Star Wars. The last Jedi is highly rated among critics while the general audience has a low score. Then with Rise of Skywalker it’s quite the opposite. Low rating on critics yet the audience score is quite higher.
 
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JoeG

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Those are just according to users of RT, so obviously the results are skewed. The fact that most of the movies on the best of all time list are from the past couple years shows that. I don't agree with that list at all, but it doesn't bother me because its meaningless. The way they collected their data is so biased that its not really much of a list.
 

thegnome

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Episode V of Star Wars should be on there, so should the second movie of Indiana Jones showing that man is mortal. Sometimes Rotton Tomatoes messes up as they did in this occasion.
 

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Trooper_trent

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This came up the other day as I was scrolling my list of purchased movies on the Vudu app, which shows the Rotten Tomatoes ratings. It was quite shocking to see some really terrible or mediocre movies having significantly higher ratings than some really popular, well done films.
Case in point, Tombstone - 73%, Bridesmaids - 90%.
 

edge10

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I find this list to be more interesting. All time highest USA gross, adjusted for inflation:


Rich (BB code):
Rank Title Adj. Lifetime Gross Lifetime Gross Est. Num Tickets Year
1Gone with the Wind$1,806,415,766$200,852,579202,286,2001939
2Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope$1,590,607,135$460,998,507178,119,5001977
3The Sound of Music$1,272,392,836$159,287,539142,485,2001965
4E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial$1,266,758,899$435,110,554141,854,3001982
5Titanic$1,210,459,714$659,363,944135,549,8001997
6The Ten Commandments$1,169,830,000$65,500,000131,000,0001956
7Jaws$1,143,743,684$260,000,000128,078,8001975
8Doctor Zhivago$1,108,530,015$111,721,910124,135,5001965
9The Exorcist$987,650,856$232,906,145110,599,2001973
10Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs$973,370,000$184,925,486109,000,0001937
11Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens$965,467,843$936,662,225108,115,1002015
12One Hundred and One Dalmatians$892,261,489$144,880,01499,917,3001961
13Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back$876,078,543$290,271,96098,105,1001980
14Ben-Hur$875,558,817$74,422,62298,046,9001959
15Avatar$868,974,728$760,507,62597,309,6002009
16Avengers: Endgame$850,751,277$858,373,00095,268,9002019
17Star Wars: Episode VI - Return of the Jedi$839,950,442$309,306,17794,059,4001983
18Jurassic Park$818,561,306$402,828,12091,664,2001993
19Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace$806,487,053$474,544,67790,312,1001999
20The Lion King$796,077,352$422,783,77789,146,4001994
 

cboath

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Best ever creates a hugely subjective criteria.

Part of the disconnect between critics and movie goers is the general dumbing down of america. That, and the amount of choices of entertainment. In the 70's you had go to the movies, play outside, or sit around the house and watch 4 channels total of TV or read something. The options today are virtually endless.

People today don't want to think and they want it spoonfed to them. Who needs substance when you can have load of explosions! Good things are more and more the result of smaller or independent makers which don't get the advertising push of the dreck that's put out.

My hope is that places like netflix can change that. I've found so much there that's good that wouldn't see the light of day elsewhere. Same with prime. You have to hunt for quality anymore and people don't want to make the effort.
 

Cephus

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There are a lot of variables here. Streaming for example is huge and might play a part. I wonder how they are scoring these

They get scored by the users of RT and those users tend to be young. The overwhelming majority of them weren't alive when the original Star Wars came out and probably weren't around for the prequels. These are the same people who would never watch a black and white movie, just because it's in black and white. These lists are completely useless.
 

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Axlotl

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Only about 5 of those belong on a Top 100 Movies Of All Time list (the other 95 are conspicuously missing).
The other 15 on that list are "things to watch when there's nothing else on".
 

Sluis Van Shipyards

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I like what I like. I don't think lists like this are definitive in any way because what a group of people consider great may not be what I consider great. I also don't think earnings make a movie great.
 

vader45

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Who ever thinks Black Panther is the best movie of all time is a dead brain cell in America's intelligence.

Every 21st century film should not be on the list. I'm not saying their all bad but name one that created and imprinted themes and images that helped shape our view and our pop culture.

When the subject comes up I think of movies such as Wizard of Oz, Gone with The Wind, Universal Monsters, A New Hope....etc. No 21st film comes to mind because 99% of them are a variation of these classics in some form.
 

Axlotl

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Who ever thinks Black Panther is the best movie of all time is a dead brain cell in America's intelligence.

Every 21st century film should not be on the list. I'm not saying their all bad but name one that created and imprinted themes and images that helped shape our view and our pop culture.

When the subject comes up I think of movies such as Wizard of Oz, Gone with The Wind, Universal Monsters, A New Hope....etc. No 21st film comes to mind because 99% of them are a variation of these classics in some form.

There are a few 21st century films in my top 100:

Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
Kill Bill, volumes 1 & 2
Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring
Mad Max: Fury Road

That's just off the top of my head, there may or may not be more.
I don't judge movies on pop-culture relevance or box-office take, though. I judge them on story and aesthetics, and technical difficulty where applicable.
 

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