Gimpdiggity
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Why not just say that then?That it sucks, for a long time.
I mean, unless you actually WERE trying to convey something there.
Why not just say that then?That it sucks, for a long time.
It was a joke man , should I brace myself for a face slap, sheesh !Why not just say that then?
I mean, unless you actually WERE trying to convey something there.
It was a joke man , should I brace myself for a face slap, sheesh !
Not if you're gonna slap me ; ) Dude I already said In my original comment, that I was talking about the video you posted, not you. What do want a flower arrangement, chocolates, an emotional support pony ?Oh I see. A joke. Hilarious. Can I get tickets to your next stand up show?
Not if you're gonna slap me ; ) Dude I already said In my original comment, that I was talking about the video you posted, not you. What do want a flower arrangement, chocolates, an emotional support pony ?
Is it now, Thanks. Only been online since it started, right after arpanet. Been a human even longer. Don't get butthurt because I don't like what you like, and then insult my comedy chops. You know what sucky sucky longtime means. So you don't think it's funny , fine. We can agree to disagree. Have a good one : )I know you weren’t talking about me. Your comment began a discussion. That’s how the internet works.
Like I said, you’re hilarious and I’d like to hear more of your material. I bet you’re a real hit on Wednesdays at the old folks home.Is it now, Thanks. Only been online since it started, right after arpanet. Been a human even longer. Don't get butthurt because I don't like what you like, and then insult my comedy chops. You know what sucky sucky longtime means. So you don't think it's funny , fine. We can agree to disagree. Have a good one : )
Yea, they adore me on bingo night. I'm their Jimmy McGill.Like I said, you’re hilarious and I’d like to hear more of your material. I bet you’re a real hit on Wednesdays at the old folks home.
Nah. New neighbors have a bunch of small kids and I don’t want to have to tell them to kick stones when they ask for a pony ride.Take the Pony !
I honestly don't know how or why so many people think Jack Nicholson was so good as The Joker. I like Nicholson as an actor, but I thought that was one of his worst performances. Also, The Joker is supposed to be a psychotic criminal mastermind, but Nicholson played him like a mentally challenged buffoon. Mind you, I place a lot of blame on Tim Burton because, in the end, it's his movie and he's responsible for the finished product, but having seen the movie I tend to believe Kevin Smith's comments that Tim Burton had his own ideas about who the characters in the Batman comics are, because he's never read any of them....Jack Nicholson? He was a stellar traditional Joker but that's his limit. I could not see him doing the sympathetic vulnerable version.
Yet Nicholson was the definitive Joker for a generation. When I think of movie Joker, I don't think of Ledger or Phoenix, I think of Nicholson. The kinds of movies that were done later on, I'm not really a fan of. YMMV, of course.I think the studio absolutely had 'The Shining' in mind when they cast Nicholson for the Joker. Unfortunately he had put on weight by the later 1980s.
The extra pounds were not good for his Joker appearance IMO. Imagine Health Ledger or Joachim Phoenix trying to do "The Dark Knight" at that size - it just doesn't come across the same way. An overweight body makes the character seem less scary & more campy.
And I'm the opposite--I think of Heath Ledger as the ultimate Joker; Nicholson and Phoenix don't even come to mind unless someone reminds me of them.Yet Nicholson was the definitive Joker for a generation. When I think of movie Joker, I don't think of Ledger or Phoenix, I think of Nicholson. The kinds of movies that were done later on, I'm not really a fan of. YMMV, of course.
I'll say this...as much as I liked the first two Nolan movies, I can say the Burton movies did more for me as a kid than the Nolan movies did for me as an adult.
I like the Nolan movies but they too are far from perfect. Immediately after Begins, the films became less and less designed until it was just Batman in New York. I don't mind the tinge of realism in fiction as something to ground the story in, but super-hero fiction is pulp fiction; it can never be "real" nor should it strive to be. It completely saps the fun out of the source material. The Nolan films are the curse of the modern day super-hero film by either making them too arbitrarily long or too serious and grim.
I've not seen The Batman and I really don't think I ever will intentionally. It looks too much like other things I've seen and that's the result of sapping the "super" out of "super-hero." I was sold Joker on the trailer but when I went to see the movie, it was just a more shallow and inept version of Taxi Driver. Joaquin's performance elevated sub-par material but other than that, it was just a guy in make-up that could've been anything else if it hadn't been called "Joker" and had ham-fisted tie-ins to the Batman universe.
The best superhero film to date is still Donner's Superman, in my book, because it took the source material seriously and had fun at the same time. That kind of film-making now seems to be an either/or situation now and I don't think it's for the better.
I'm with you all the way on this, Ron. I don't mind the fantasy of the super-hero genre. In fact, I prefer it! The theatricality, the drama of the Burton films, perfectly match the tone of the material that was being presented. They're not perfect films and there's a huge tonal shift halfway through the film that can be marked precisely at Vicki's apartment after the museum sequence. It is what it is, and while Nicholson was much older and fatter than when the producers initially wanted to make Batman in the early 80's, I still think he's come closest to the purest vision of the Joker in any live-action adaptation. And that's with him having an unnecessary backstory and being killed at the end!
I like the Nolan movies but they too are far from perfect. Immediately after Begins, the films became less and less designed until it was just Batman in New York. I don't mind the tinge of realism in fiction as something to ground the story in, but super-hero fiction is pulp fiction; it can never be "real" nor should it strive to be. It completely saps the fun out of the source material. The Nolan films are the curse of the modern day super-hero film by either making them too arbitrarily long or too serious and grim.
I've not seen The Batman and I really don't think I ever will intentionally. It looks too much like other things I've seen and that's the result of sapping the "super" out of "super-hero." I was sold Joker on the trailer but when I went to see the movie, it was just a more shallow and inept version of Taxi Driver. Joaquin's performance elevated sub-par material but other than that, it was just a guy in make-up that could've been anything else if it hadn't been called "Joker" and had ham-fisted tie-ins to the Batman universe.
The best superhero film to date is still Donner's Superman, in my book, because it took the source material seriously and had fun at the same time. That kind of film-making now seems to be an either/or situation now and I don't think it's for the better.