The Amazing Spiderman 2 Webs

WebHead101

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Hey guys so about the webs we know that they were screen printed along with the rest of the suit so anyone have any ideas about what the webs could have been made of ?

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Sorry let me clarify I mean what kind of ink
 
Do we have confirmation that the webs were screen printed? They appear to be an appliance glued to the suit to my eye, or a liquid rubber applied to the sewn suit. Getting the webs to look screen accurate through screen printing, in my opinion, would be impossible using current technology.

...then again, if I'm wrong and we have confirmation somewhere of them being screen printed I've got some research to do! :lol

-Nick
 
Do we have confirmation that the webs were screen printed? They appear to be an appliance glued to the suit to my eye, or a liquid rubber applied to the sewn suit. Getting the webs to look screen accurate through screen printing, in my opinion, would be impossible using current technology.

...then again, if I'm wrong and we have confirmation somewhere of them being screen printed I've got some research to do! :lol

-Nick

I heard the webs were 3d printed onto the suit.
 
Do we have confirmation that the webs were screen printed? They appear to be an appliance glued to the suit to my eye, or a liquid rubber applied to the sewn suit. Getting the webs to look screen accurate through screen printing, in my opinion, would be impossible using current technology.

...then again, if I'm wrong and we have confirmation somewhere of them being screen printed I've got some research to do! :lol

-Nick

Hey man yeah I have checked multiple websites where they interviewed Debrah Lynn Scott (costume designer) and she said that they designed the web pattern in a 3D software and then screen printed it onto the suit



Designing the Amazing Spider-Man costumes | Den of Geek


Thanks!
-Aaron
 
Hey man yeah I have checked multiple websites where they interviewed Debrah Lynn Scott (costume designer) and she said that they designed the web pattern in a 3D software and then screen printed it onto the suit



Designing the Amazing Spider-Man costumes | Den of Geek


Thanks!
-Aaron

Based on that, and another interview I found over on MTV I'm not sure she knows what she's talking about. Sure, the Raimi webs were trimmed by hand, but they were molded in CNC molds, and the whole things was designed in a computer at Sony Imageworks before that.

We might have to wait for the DVD special features to know for sure.

If you want to play around with silk screening webs though, you'll likely want to use high density plastisols with a stretch additive. But that wouldn't give you the clean, rounded look of the movie webs. On top of that, a puff additive would give the webs even less clean roundedness.

The he only thing I can think of is that they MIGHT have been able to use multiple screens with a decreasing width for the webs on each one so that each layer as it was put on top of the last was slightly narrower...but I wouldn't bank on that looks smooth and rounded. The webs look extruded not screened to my eye and until I see otherwise. That's what I'm going to claim.

As as I've learned, the costume designers and assistants don't always know exactly how things are made, just how they're supposed to look. You on,y have to go back and listen to all the people behind the scenes of SM2 claiming the suits were silk screened when we know now that they we're dye subbed.

Best of luck if you choose to experiment. You'll likely get decent results, but again, I, and friends I have who silk screen for a living, don't know of the technology that would great webs like TASM2's suit. My guess is she was actually referencing the brick pattern in that interview...just very confusingly.

-Nick
 
Based on that, and another interview I found over on MTV I'm not sure she knows what she's talking about. Sure, the Raimi webs were trimmed by hand, but they were molded in CNC molds, and the whole things was designed in a computer at Sony Imageworks before that.

We might have to wait for the DVD special features to know for sure.

If you want to play around with silk screening webs though, you'll likely want to use high density plastisols with a stretch additive. But that wouldn't give you the clean, rounded look of the movie webs. On top of that, a puff additive would give the webs even less clean roundedness.

The he only thing I can think of is that they MIGHT have been able to use multiple screens with a decreasing width for the webs on each one so that each layer as it was put on top of the last was slightly narrower...but I wouldn't bank on that looks smooth and rounded. The webs look extruded not screened to my eye and until I see otherwise. That's what I'm going to claim.

As as I've learned, the costume designers and assistants don't always know exactly how things are made, just how they're supposed to look. You on,y have to go back and listen to all the people behind the scenes of SM2 claiming the suits were silk screened when we know now that they we're dye subbed.

Best of luck if you choose to experiment. You'll likely get decent results, but again, I, and friends I have who silk screen for a living, don't know of the technology that would great webs like TASM2's suit. My guess is she was actually referencing the brick pattern in that interview...just very confusingly.

-Nick

Dude you have a great point there! Btw in tasm 1 where did they talk about the suit at I would like to check it out! And about the screen printing I don't know of you have seen it or not but Oracle1982 has made one, the brick pattern looks good but the webs overlap and are nowhere near the height of the movie I don't mean to bag on him or anything but his looks great for someone who doesn't mind small flaws. But thanks for that man now I really can't wait for the DVD!



-Aaron
 
Based on that, and another interview I found over on MTV I'm not sure she knows what she's talking about. Sure, the Raimi webs were trimmed by hand, but they were molded in CNC molds, and the whole things was designed in a computer at Sony Imageworks before that.

We might have to wait for the DVD special features to know for sure.

If you want to play around with silk screening webs though, you'll likely want to use high density plastisols with a stretch additive. But that wouldn't give you the clean, rounded look of the movie webs. On top of that, a puff additive would give the webs even less clean roundedness.

The he only thing I can think of is that they MIGHT have been able to use multiple screens with a decreasing width for the webs on each one so that each layer as it was put on top of the last was slightly narrower...but I wouldn't bank on that looks smooth and rounded. The webs look extruded not screened to my eye and until I see otherwise. That's what I'm going to claim.

As as I've learned, the costume designers and assistants don't always know exactly how things are made, just how they're supposed to look. You on,y have to go back and listen to all the people behind the scenes of SM2 claiming the suits were silk screened when we know now that they we're dye subbed.

Best of luck if you choose to experiment. You'll likely get decent results, but again, I, and friends I have who silk screen for a living, don't know of the technology that would great webs like TASM2's suit. My guess is she was actually referencing the brick pattern in that interview...just very confusingly.

-Nick

Oh and one more thing I don't have a silk screener or screen print I have been just going off of oracles



-Aaron
 
If anyone has any ideas please share them I have seen the latex method and it looks pretty good.



-Aaron
 
I spoke with a local screen printing company. They said they have paints that u screen print and afterwards they puff a bit to get a 3d.
Not sure if they did that on the movie suit. In close ups the webs look a bit foamy but i can be wrong.

Otherwise i saw a mix of puffy black and slick white. Makes a great color and after puffing it looks pretty close to the movie suit.


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Check out videos of screen printing with puff additives. It creates a very uneven texture, generally with sharp lines where the edges of the design are. Maybe their are further additives they can put in, but a straight puff additive is going to give a "cakey" texture.

-Nick
 
Based on that, and another interview I found over on MTV I'm not sure she knows what she's talking about. Sure, the Raimi webs were trimmed by hand, but they were molded in CNC molds, and the whole things was designed in a computer at Sony Imageworks before that.

We might have to wait for the DVD special features to know for sure.

If you want to play around with silk screening webs though, you'll likely want to use high density plastisols with a stretch additive. But that wouldn't give you the clean, rounded look of the movie webs. On top of that, a puff additive would give the webs even less clean roundedness.

The he only thing I can think of is that they MIGHT have been able to use multiple screens with a decreasing width for the webs on each one so that each layer as it was put on top of the last was slightly narrower...but I wouldn't bank on that looks smooth and rounded. The webs look extruded not screened to my eye and until I see otherwise. That's what I'm going to claim.

As as I've learned, the costume designers and assistants don't always know exactly how things are made, just how they're supposed to look. You on,y have to go back and listen to all the people behind the scenes of SM2 claiming the suits were silk screened when we know now that they we're dye subbed.

Best of luck if you choose to experiment. You'll likely get decent results, but again, I, and friends I have who silk screen for a living, don't know of the technology that would great webs like TASM2's suit. My guess is she was actually referencing the brick pattern in that interview...just very confusingly.

-Nick

I know this is a few months late, but I can tell you that the webs are screenprinted.

I can't share what my source is, but Lunaman can vouch for me on this one. I've interviewed a certain someone and they said the reason for screen printing is because it's more cost effective than CNC mills.

Andrew Garfield's body was sculpted in a 3D program and they basically designed the suit onto him so make sure everything was precise. Then they reverse engineered the model to create a pattern on a 2D plane, created a black and white graphic, then screen printed it using dimensional ink. No 3D printing was involved with the fabric of the suit.

Again, I can't tell you my source.
 
I know this is a few months late, but I can tell you that the webs are screenprinted.

I can't share what my source is, but Lunaman can vouch for me on this one. I've interviewed a certain someone and they said the reason for screen printing is because it's more cost effective than CNC mills.

Andrew Garfield's body was sculpted in a 3D program and they basically designed the suit onto him so make sure everything was precise. Then they reverse engineered the model to create a pattern on a 2D plane, created a black and white graphic, then screen printed it using dimensional ink. No 3D printing was involved with the fabric of the suit.

Again, I can't tell you my source.

Don't worry about not sharing sources. I've been there. People go out of their way to help us in our nerdy pursuits, we should all respect them by helping them stay private.

Glad we have some better confirmation. I'd be really interested to know more about their ink formulation as the roundness of the webs would not happen with most of the inks my screen printing friends work with.

Thanks for the update!

-Nick
 
Don't worry about not sharing sources. I've been there. People go out of their way to help us in our nerdy pursuits, we should all respect them by helping them stay private.

Glad we have some better confirmation. I'd be really interested to know more about their ink formulation as the roundness of the webs would not happen with most of the inks my screen printing friends work with.

Thanks for the update!

-Nick


Thanks for understanding man. Yeah, it sucks that there are things that prevent people from sharing.

And no problem. I am currently testing a bunch of special effects ink atm with a friend. Hope to have something out!

Cheers
 
Thanks for understanding man. Yeah, it sucks that there are things that prevent people from sharing.

And no problem. I am currently testing a bunch of special effects ink atm with a friend. Hope to have something out!

Cheers
I'd love to hear what you find out about their ink for the webs.
 
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