The Amazing Spider-Man (Post-release)

[terryr]

Not finding Uncle Bens' killer was most surprising. And Staceys death should have take a few movies.
No Bugle or J.J.? Weird.

So that's what he swings on. Cranes!

It was a little slow to get started and rushed at the end. But it's good overall. And updated to modern times, with cell phones, internet, skateboards and such.

 

[Egon Spengler]

Those concept suits look really bad, and the only one that is decent looks too much like the old film version. The movie was great. The Amazing Spider-man was a MUCH better movie than the Macguire films, though there was one cheesy part, most of the film was very well done and a lot closer to what a Spider-man film should be. No cheesy musical montages, no lame power ranger looking villain and no annoying portrayal of MJ.

 

[Kerr Avon]

Not finding Uncle Bens' killer was most surprising. And Staceys death should have take a few movies.
No Bugle or J.J.? Weird.

At one point a newspaper was shown and I'm pretty sure it was the Bugle. That'd be the extent of it though, and it's not that big a deal as he was still in high school in this movie. Wasn't he out of high school when he started working for the Bugle?

 

[Bryancd]

At one point a newspaper was shown and I'm pretty sure it was the Bugle. That'd be the extent of it though, and it's not that big a deal as he was still in high school in this movie. Wasn't he out of high school when he started working for the Bugle?

Yes, the newspaper was the Daily Bugle.

 

[cboath]

Those concept suits look really bad, and the only one that is decent looks too much like the old film version. The movie was great. The Amazing Spider-man was a MUCH better movie than the Macguire films, though there was one cheesy part, most of the film was very well done and a lot closer to what a Spider-man film should be. No cheesy musical montages, no lame power ranger looking villain and no annoying portrayal of MJ.

Just saw it today and I don't know that it was MUCH better than the first Spiderman, but I did think it was better

Some foreshadowing was on the clearly cheesy side. That disperal machine his dad built just happened to be in the label visible to the world and apparently hooked up and functioning even though it was killed off at the same time as his dad (theoretically anyhow). As soon as they said what it was I said, OK, that in the final scene and pivotal to the outcome. Just blatantly obvious. Same with the death and Gwen saying she always worries her dad won't come home.

Something else that bothered me was not just the standard masked super hero cliche' (at least these days) of the hero having to fight (a good bit) without his mask - but the fact that how many people knew or figured it out damn near immediately. Gwen, her dad, Conners/the lizard, about 25 cops, and Aunt May all knew. Not exactly keeping your identity a secret. Maybe that was sort of the point her dad makes as he's dying, I don't know. I know the previous flicks don't count here, but it's the same thing as Spiderman II. Doc Oc finds out peter is spiderman and tears off after Aunt May. You just can't go out telling everyone who you are and/or making it that easy to figure out.

That aside, I thought the got the teen aspect right (something I never got off the others) even though these guys are in their mid/late 20's in reality. Liked the use of the webs too, something that was missed before. Web the arms to the wall, web the guys mouth shut Stuff like that.

I thought for sure we'd see Osbourne at the end, though my guess is that's who appeared to Conner's in jail. Odd to know that Osbourne needed the serum as much or moreso than Conners. Makes you wonder what's wrong with him?

 

[venomvsspidey11]

The movie was overall bad. I found it changed way too much a deviated from the comics, some of the most pivotal moments in Peter Parkers life were either just taken away or severely altered. Those were the biggest problems with the film. a few things i liked about the film was the use of the web shooters and Gwen Stacy plus it took itself a little bit more seriously.

This movie really could have been good, it could have fixed all the problems the previous films had but the film makers decided to go in the opposite direction of what was needed. They haven't done any permanent damage though so they could still redeem themselves if the sequel is good and they at least use the comics as a ****ing reference


Oh and don't even get me started on the suit.

 

[tylerswim23]

Just saw it today and I don't know that it was MUCH better than the first Spiderman, but I did think it was better

Some foreshadowing was on the clearly cheesy side. That disperal machine his dad built just happened to be in the label visible to the world and apparently hooked up and functioning even though it was killed off at the same time as his dad (theoretically anyhow). As soon as they said what it was I said, OK, that in the final scene and pivotal to the outcome. Just blatantly obvious. Same with the death and Gwen saying she always worries her dad won't come home.

Something else that bothered me was not just the standard masked super hero cliche' (at least these days) of the hero having to fight (a good bit) without his mask - but the fact that how many people knew or figured it out damn near immediately. Gwen, her dad, Conners/the lizard, about 25 cops, and Aunt May all knew. Not exactly keeping your identity a secret. Maybe that was sort of the point her dad makes as he's dying, I don't know. I know the previous flicks don't count here, but it's the same thing as Spiderman II. Doc Oc finds out peter is spiderman and tears off after Aunt May. You just can't go out telling everyone who you are and/or making it that easy to figure out.

Doc Oc doesn't go after Aunt May, Green Goblin does in 1. He happens to pick her up in 2. He didn't know it was Peter at that time and the only cop that seen his face is Cap Stacey. I think Aunt May does know though

 

[TheNickFox]

The movie was overall bad. I found it changed way too much a deviated from the comics

But the percentage of the prospective audience that is THAT devoted to the comics is minimal.

Not to mention the fact that comics reboot and create new universes and origins and stories all the time.

The films are not the comics, they are a story based on the characters in the comics. If you like the comics, that's awesome...as someone who was only mildly into comics, I really enjoyed this movie.

...my girlfriend, who has NO basis in the comic world, really enjoyed it as well. It's about telling A story, not telling one particular story.

...plus, if it told the same story as the comics, wouldn't you be bored? I mean, there'd be no surprises for you.

-Nick

 

[Crank729]

Also, for all you die hard comic book guys out there.....The original origin story of Spiderman is more than 50 years old.............It's not gonna be the exact same. I liked this take on Spidey, it's somewhat refreshing.

Also, the lizard was much better than I thought.

 

[Redtogusa]

The movie was overall bad. I found it changed way too much a deviated from the comics

If they had stuck to the comics more people would complain that it's too samey. They're already doing that when comparing it with the Raimi movies as it is.

To me it captured the essence of the characters from the comics very well.


On a side note I was glad to see that the "I'm going to throw you out the window now" scene had decent context. When I saw that scene in a trailer, documentary or wherever I saw it before seeing the movie I was unsure where they were going to go with it. :lol

 

[squirk]

If they had stuck to the comics more people would complain that it's too samey. They're already doing that when comparing it with the Raimi movies as it is.

QFE. There's a happy medium somewhere, but it's different for each person.

I always try to look at the movies and comics as alternate timelines (i.e., Marvel's "What If"'s). So long as they don't deviate too much from each other in terms of core concepts, I'm cool.

But, again, my idea of what is "core" to Spider-Man may differ from yours.

 

[Banner]

I just get tired of reboots in general. Not so much because of changes in actors, but because directors (and screenwriters for that matter) feel we need to see an origin story EVERY time in the first movie. Unless you COMPLETELY redo the origin, keep it VERY short and simple. The Incredible Hulk (the one with Ed Norton)did a good job at this. They took care of the entire origin story in the opening credits. That's all we really need.

 

[da wesheb]

I had some pretty glaring issues with this movie, but never wanted it to end. It's not Amazing, as the title suggests but it is good.

1. For a movie with a few geniuses, these people were pretty dumb. Peter and Curt couldn't be more obvious about their alternate personas.
2. Peter as a whole. He took to his new powers much too casually, his voice is annoying (Plenty of Batman voice.) I have reservations about him moving forward in the trilogy
3. No love story, but Garfield/Emma were more in love than Toby/Dunst? I guess you could make an argument for kids falling in love too quickly but still, pretty ridiculous.
4. Flash Thompson.

SPOILER
This isn't revealing much, but I would like to point out the extreme prejudice used by the NYPD in this movie. The Lizard is casually walking down the street in a lab coat, carrying his gym bag, when he is brutally attacked by over a dozen police officers. These men attack immediately without warning, letting out a hail of gunfire large enough to rip the foundation out of a house. Could've been another Lizardman, or a guy in a costume. Racial profiling, or species profiling I suppose would be the term.

 

[Kerr Avon]

SPOILER
This isn't revealing much, but I would like to point out the extreme prejudice used by the NYPD in this movie. The Lizard is casually walking down the street in a lab coat, carrying his gym bag, when he is brutally attacked by over a dozen police officers. These men attack immediately without warning, letting out a hail of gunfire large enough to rip the foundation out of a house. Could've been another Lizardman, or a guy in a costume. Racial profiling, or species profiling I suppose would be the term.

 

[cboath]

Doc Oc doesn't go after Aunt May, Green Goblin does in 1. He happens to pick her up in 2. He didn't know it was Peter at that time and the only cop that seen his face is Cap Stacey. I think Aunt May does know though

Sorry got my previous movies crossed

Still, Stacy may have been the only one 'right there', but you could see other cops in the background and on the sides and he called him by name at that point, so you'd think a couple of the other cops would have heard it.

Even if it was just Stacy, that's a lot of people to know his identity that fast. Plus, you'd have to figure that someone would be able to narrow his ID down to someone who goes to or works at the school - how else does he show up the second the lizard jumps into the school through the bathroom?

Maybe that's a subplot for part 2 - he's made it too easy to ID himself so he gets the job at the Bugle to try and divert the attention.

 

[Monster Dave]

But the percentage of the prospective audience that is THAT devoted to the comics is minimal.

Not to mention the fact that comics reboot and create new universes and origins and stories all the time.

The films are not the comics, they are a story based on the characters in the comics. If you like the comics, that's awesome...as someone who was only mildly into comics, I really enjoyed this movie.

...my girlfriend, who has NO basis in the comic world, really enjoyed it as well. It's about telling A story, not telling one particular story.

...plus, if it told the same story as the comics, wouldn't you be bored? I mean, there'd be no surprises for you.

-Nick

This confuses the crap out of me. Not the post, but the difference between this movie audience and the audience from Avengers.

I cried 'wolf' with Avengers for it being tooooo much like the comics; perhaps even too faithful - I didn't grow up with the comics myself and thus didn't care much for it. The result to my comments though was an overwhelming backlash from comic purists.

Then I see this post where it says that followers of the comics are (paraphrased) the 'minority'.

Which confuses the crap out of me...especially since both movie genre's are Marvel.

:sick

 

[da wesheb]

Sarcasm, but it seriously happened lol

 

[cboath]

Other than the liberties taken with Peter's parents, i thought this aligned with the comics more than the Raimi movies did.

Granted I don't read much in the comics, but still.

Movies may be stories based on the comics, but they can't deviate too much without it being problematic. It wouldn't work as well, or possibly at all, if they changed the suit to green and purple and moved him to Los Angeles instead of NY and had him being a college professor as opposed to high school student. It'd still be 'based' on the comics, but much more likely to bomb.

The only real change I saw was the parents and while I don't read the comics, I don't think it's an avenue that's ever been looked at has it? It supposedly won't be wrapped up until part 3 if i have to guess, so we'll just have to see how it plays out.


Spidey starts off in HS
Dates Gwen before MJ
Kind of has the smart ass attitude
manual web shooters developed himself
He's a science nerd

All accurate to the comics aren't they? None of which really applied to the previous movies.

I think falling into the wrestling ring is a fine substitute since the wrestling bit has already been done. The only thing weak is Ben dying ostensibly over 2 cents. I think they could have done that better. If you're going to rob a store by knocking over a display on the counter, why have a gun in the first place?

 

[Monster Dave]

Unused costume concepts for Spiderman:

THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN Costumes Concept Art

 

[Redtogusa]

Unused costume concepts for Spiderman:

THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN Costumes Concept Art

Would I be using the term right if I said 'Jedifyfed'?
Don't hate me, I'm new here.

alternate spidey suits.

Now these look AWESOME! !

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