The 1:1 Vader you get from Sideshow for $9K!!!

Discussion in 'Star Wars Costumes and Props' started by Brent M, Mar 7, 2018.

  1. Brent M

    Brent M Sr Member

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    Yes, that's $9K in real human dollars. :lol

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dy5bu4XEPU


    I watched that video and at the end when it was all put together I started laughing maniacally. SS should stand trial for robbery of everyone that pays them $9k for this thing. It's an absolute joke how they showed off a 1:1 Vader you couldn't buy at Comic-Con for years, then finally advertised it for sale, then abruptly pulled it off the market because they were "re-tooling" it and now this is the final product they came up with many years later. Honestly I don't know what is more embarrassing...SS offering that for sale or someone putting it on display in their collection. For less money I put together my own that looks like it walked right off the set of The Empire Strikes Back. Yes it took work to acquire all the pieces and put everything together, but the end result was more than worth it. Here's a video for anyone who hasn't seen it or wants to do a fun comparison. ;)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgAJDYOJHVU
     
  2. Synz314

    Synz314 Active Member

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    Yeah, like you said, one could do much better for a third of the cost. It's not the worst I've seen, but grossly overpriced even if it was perfect.
     
  3. rnbuda

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    I don't think it looks too awful. Much better than their attempt at Boba Fett.

    Between the time and effort most people who can afford life-size figures will opt for Sideshow. Their well known, licensed, and you don't need to do research or know the right people.
     
  4. azheat01

    azheat01 Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Absolutely absurd, just ridiculous......you're better off buying a Rubies Supreme for $500 and a $150 mannequin before spending $9000 on this.
     
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  5. Davy Jones

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    That is incredibly bad.
     
  6. Rogue1Luvr

    Rogue1Luvr Active Member

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    I have four Hot Toys sixth-scale Rogue One action figures. I have K-2SO, the Death Trooper Specialist, the Jedha Patrol Stormtrooper and Darth Vader. They all blow me away! :D I couldn't imagine having a gigantic action figure that is the size of an actual human being in my house. It's a tad unnecessary although I do applaud anyone that takes the time and money to try and make one for themselves. ;)
     
  7. Jagjaguwar

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    Agreed, it’s not terrible, and for the market they’re selling to, “good enough.” As in, plenty of Sideshow buyers wouldn’t be able to spot any improvements that might be made to make this more accurate. So why would Sideshow bother? In short, it’s not for us. As has been said many times, getting separate pieces and putting one together yourself is the best route for both accuracy and value, but I think the target demographic for this thing is probably people who have plenty of spare cash.
     
  8. Rogue1Luvr

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    Vader's cape and tunic on this life-size action figure looks like it was fashioned out of a black garbage bag, how atrocious!
     
  9. rnbuda

    rnbuda Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Exactly, Jagjaguwar. Here's my 1:1 Fett. It's still receiving upgrades so it's a work in progress. I've probably spent close 6K at this point BUT it's taken over 5 years now. Now, SSC's is 9k but I only have to wait a few months? I don't need to deal with 15 different vendors, different painters, etc. It's just reality that there are people willing to drop 10K on a Vader or Fett that want something to sit in the corner of their man cave!

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  10. GINO

    GINO Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Just wow. :facepalm
     
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  11. Pwrsrce

    Pwrsrce Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Oh. My. God.

    That is truly incredibly bad.

    Jason
     
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  12. clancampbell

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    The suit looks like shiny pleather......

    The cape and robe look like cheap nylon type fabric......

    9k buys you a LOT of velcro it seems.....

    If it was about 5k i'd say, "ok, yeah, that's pretty good"

    Rich
     
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  13. Kroenen77

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    Hahaha...is he wearing some plasticbags on his arms and legs?This thing looks so bad..my good old rubies- jumpsuit looks better as this cheap plasticbags.
    This thing is not worth 2000 $.But people with too much money are often buying bad stuff because they have no clue what they also could also get for their money.
     
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  14. matty matt

    matty matt Sr Member

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    Holy hell...that thing is bad. Looks like he's wearing trash bags. You'd be better off with a Rubies Supreme, a PCR helmet, and a half decent mannequin if you just wanted something for your man cave.
     
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  15. russellsch

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    I don't think I could contain my laughter if I went to someone's house that had this. Cause you know that person would think it was the greatest, most screen accurate, thing out there. That, & knowing they would've paid over $9k, with shipping, to get it? No, I'd laugh myself out of the house. :lol
     
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  16. TRCViper

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    It looks pretty nice for something that I would consider "mass produced". Price point for me is impossible, but for folks who have the $$$ and don't have the time to do a full 100% screen accurate suit...GO FOR IT! Why not?
     
  17. PropReplicator2

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    This is impressively bad if you know what your talking about... But then again any average guy off the street would know who it is. The only thing I can't justify the price point. Just rediculous for something especially of this quality! The only thing I can admit to is that they can get it out all at once and in decent time, unlike the Vader I've been working on for about a year now and have little to no work done (mostly because my Fett got in the way ;) ).
     
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  18. DaddyfromNaboo

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    I´m kicking myself for not buying the Anovos soft goods when they were still available.

    Maybe the packaging is what drove the price up.
     
  19. ave4uevoli

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    um- this is an esb vader? why is the inner cape over the armor? Did sideshow not put it together correctly in their "instructional video"?
     
  20. Hecubus114

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    It's got the ANH saber - I'd be interested in seeing that up close (to see how inaccurate it probably is)...
     
  21. Brent M

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    Obviously the difference between your Fett and Sideshow's is like a Ferrari and a Kia, but I still think this Vader looks worse than their Fett. It's just awful in every single way.
     
  22. Kroenen77

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    I can tell you a lot of reasons WHY NOT!!!:lol
     
  23. vader45

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    The overall appearance of that this is CRAPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP. Who decided to make the * thing as tall as Chewbacca? To me that is the most baffling aspect of it IMO. Most of the parts are junk but Imo the helmet and armor look very good imo. I do like how everything is its own piece and not mounted to the form thus making it wearable aside from the helmet and boots/shins.

    I do like the form, I wish a mannequin like that is available to buy for a reasonable price.
     
  24. Rogue1Luvr

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    Speaking of the inner cape which is actually known as a tunic why even include it on Vader if it's going to be worn UNDER the shoulder armor? That's really sort of a rhetorical question.
     
  25. Apollo

    Apollo Legendary Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    YIKES!!!!!!!
     
  26. James Kenobi 1138

    James Kenobi 1138 Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    I went back and re-watched the video- it has the ANH chest box with the 3 gray rockers and 1 white rocker, the longer rods, and no ESB/ROTJ greeblies, the gloves are the ANH style, and the helmet has the smaller chin vent. I couldn’t tell if it had the widows peak.

    Only the belt boxes seem to be ROTJ/Tour suit versions instead of ANH.
     
  27. Portumac

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    I totally agree with you Brent, what a rip off. I don't know what happened to the first Life-Size Vader Statue that Sideshow offered about the same time they offered the Life-Size Boba Fett Statue. Gino sculpted the mannequin and was spot on! But this new Vader Statue is a JOKE!!!!!!! I got one of the very first Life-Size Boba Fett statues from Sideshow over 3 years ago, I totally upgraded the statue with real aluminum parts, back pack lighted beacon, even the helmet was terrible, i had to use my Master Replicas Helmet and I modified the rod that support the helmet tgat came with the statue, now it looks like tge REAL thing. I'll share some pictures later. But I totally agree with you guys, is not worth the amount of money they are asking for these statues. Here are a few pictures of my Life-Size Vader mannequin, I sculpted the mannequin myself and all the hard parts and soft parts are made in my studio.[​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]

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  28. vader45

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    Ill have to say for 9K I would expect them to give us a Vader made from the Fan made standards. That price point is enough to produce a vader with fan made quality and still make money, pay workers and the license.

    What idiot would pay 9K for pleather and cheap cape material?
     
  29. Kroenen77

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    Look at the Anovos...really not perfect...but if you see this "sideshow thing" in comparison..it looks like a screenused suit!
    A modded Rubies suit looks better.But I bet..some rich guys will make sideshow to get richer.And the quality of their "high end"pieces is going a step lower again.
    If nobody would buy this *******,they would make better props.
     
  30. sparrowfan

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    Its not THAT bad, I do see the appeal as it is a licensed replica!
    Its miles ahead of this one Rubies is currently selling,yes this is a life size statue not a costume (however, at <$2k)

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    at the end of the day, yes i built my own life size vader, far less cheaper and more accurate! (custom mannequin & base by Portumac above!)

    13668925_657615427736004_7104488523994304299_o.jpg
     
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  31. Clutch

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    Funny, you guys would be wetting yourselves over this a few years ago.
     
  32. Brent M

    Brent M Sr Member

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    Can't speak for anyone else, but I personally never would have "wet myself" for something so overpriced and inaccurate.
     
  33. azheat01

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    Sorry, I'm not buying into "the fans with disposable cash who don't know better and don't want to spend the time building one will buy this" argument. Sure, there will be a few, but I think many who would contemplate buying this would do just a little research and realize it's not worth it; even if money is of no concern for them. I think that's why the price is so high, to cover what could prove to be a limited production run not based on demand, but the lack there of. Here's my Rubies Supreme / Deluxe Vader.....................

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    And although it's grossly inaccurate on every level (and almost sacrilegious to own!), it looks every bit the part of "Star Wars" as this overpriced one does. And I paid $400 for the costume new, $180 for the mannequin, and custom built the display base myself using $30 in lumber. So whether you have cash to burn or not, you're a fool to spend $9000 on this. Just my opinion.........

    Yeah, I'm not buying this statement. Almost an insult to the majority of the members here. "A few years ago", not likely......two or three decades ago, possibly.
     
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  34. Jagjaguwar

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    I think it’s very safe to assume that there are a whole lot more rich dudes with some degree of interest in Star Wars and the space to put one of these things than there are hardcore prop experts and those interested in studying this stuff. Take a look at the various forums- they’re all filled with the same names over and over. For better or worse, we’re outnumbered.
     
  35. Portumac

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    I totally agree with you! Is an insult that Sideshow produce something so inaccurate and for so much money, a total rip off. This guys have some kind of accesss to do a more screen accurate product, not only is inaccurate but CHEAP!!! Most of the LIFE-SIZE busts and very few statues that I got from Sideshow over the years I had to either re-painted them or replace parts because the parts used were cheap resin when they should have use real metal parts and the paint job was cheap. I don't want to be to hard on the sculptors that works for them after all is not their fault, but the final product that comes from China is terrible. I spoke to one of the Sideshow representatives at the last Star Wars Celebration and I talk to them about this and they were not happy at all with my feedback on these Life-Size props statues and busts. I even told them that they used my Vader Reveal Helmet without permission to make their Vader Reveal Bust, they didn't say nothing about it. Is not the first time they do this according to a friend of mine who worked for them in the past. You guys Vader statues look STUNNING compared to this piece of crap that Sideshow is trying to sell now.

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  36. Davy Jones

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    Are you wetting yourself now?
     
  37. vader45

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    Since we are showing our Vader's and shaming Sideshow. Here is my entry.

    This is the best photo I can find at the moment. I have him on display but no camera at the moment.
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    I have only invested $3,100 and its all real leather, fiberglass and heavy weight wool.

    And sideshow has theirs at $8,900 and its all real pleather and all real cheap cape material is the all real inaccurate detailing.
     
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  38. Kroenen77

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    Your Vader looks great.What parts are you using?
     
  39. vader45

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    Thank you.

    That is Stones Helmet and V1 armor.

    Leather suit and gloves from Fenix Props

    Cape is Kev Vader

    Cod is Artisan

    Belt is a Garrison belt with Dark-Sides buckle and the hammond boxes finished by Portumac,

    The chest box is Dark-Side pieces that I had painted by Portumac(Box only painted by him) and then assembled it myself to ensure the accuracy I wanted.

    Boots need replaced as they are almost 8 years old but are replica German officer boots. The shins are Sith Armor shins.


    I love how this edit turned out.
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  40. Kroenen77

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    That is a fine Vader.:):thumbsup
     
  41. vader45

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    Thank you. He would look even better once I get my CFO in and a nice camera!
     
  42. vader45

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    Here are a few more images That I could scrounge up.
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  43. Kroenen77

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    Yes the CFO is the best ROTJ Vaderhelmet out there.Will paint mine soon after I finished some other projects.
     
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  44. halliwax

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    I have a friend who collects these side show pieces. I’m trying to explain the in accuracy’s with this Vader.

    Anyone know or have a link to the supplier of the prowse mannequins?

    Trying to put together a list of parts to see how much cheaper he could build one, and be much more accurate


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  45. vader45

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    All you have to do is show a high end fan vader like mine or anyone here on the board or the Prop Den or the SLD and tell them what the individual had invested.

    Im at $3,200. That includes the cost of a heavily modified mannequin.
     
  46. halliwax

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    Do you have any links I can link him to?
     
  47. Edraven99

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    I'm not going to argue whether this is overpriced or not, but as I've stated elsewhere in other threads, it's different strokes for different folks.

    I've got a buddy who's a mega Star Wars fan; possibly even more so than I am, but for him, if it isn't licensed, he wants nothing to do with it. For him even though he'd probably never sell his stuff, it's about the 'investment' and re-sale value that a licensed product has and the rightly or wrongly perception that a commercially made product is a better 'quality' made product and more accurate than any fan can produce. And he's far from alone in these beliefs.

    You look at any eFX or MR produced product on eBay and they go for thousands of dollars; not just asking price, but realized prices.

    Take for a prime example the MR Obi Wan ANH weathered lightsaber. I used to own one and it's a great product. But it's inaccurate because when it was made, not all of the real parts were identified and they got some of it wrong. But the re-sale value for one of these beauties is about $1,500 - $2,500 depending on whether you have all of the 'accessories' - shipping box, plaque, etc.

    Or you can get one from Roman that has all of the parts replicated faithfully from the original parts and in steel no less for about $500.

    I wasn't the original owner of the MR Obi I sold and the previous owner had rubbed off the 'Lucasfilm' script on the hilt as an accuracy mod. Believe you me I had a heck of a time selling it on Rebelscum because without that TM Lucasfilm script, how would they know it wasn't a knockoff? Or worse yet, some fan made hilt?

    For some collectors, it's not about accuracy and more about 'collectability'.

    I daresay that if I was dumb enough to ever sell my SL Vader helmet, it probably wouldn't fetch as much on the aftermarket than an eFX Legend of even a Sideshow 1:1 bust.

    But to each their own and there's nothing wrong with that....
     
  48. halliwax

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    This is my friend, he also collects a lot of licensed stuff. I don’t see a problem with it, hell a lot of his stuff is love to own.

    He’s a big master replica guy as well

    From my eye sight I would like to own a Vader that’s more accurate, BUT I can also see it not bringing in as much money that is officially licensed, because a lot of people can’t tell or see the difference

    He’s debating on what to do now, he’s moving to a larger house just to merge his two collections together.
     
  49. Kroenen77

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    The MR pieces are only so expensive because nothing like this is comming out these days.Anovos has no plaque,no real limitation,the shipping time is endless and the quality is also bad on some pieces.
    And EFX..you all know it.No comment.
    Sideshow?Look on the bad Vader and all their other SW pieces..nothing has the quality of the old MR pieces.
    If a company would resale all the old MR stuff again,the prices would be low again in seconds.So the only reason why MR stuff is so expensive is,why its rare.
    But its the same story like the old Kenner SW Toys...a story like this is very rare.So if you have a lot of MR stuff you are a happy guy if you look on the value of your collection.
    And if not..also good.There is a lot better fanmadestuff out there.
     
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  50. vader45

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    There are no links to the fan made stuff but you can direct him to forum.501stsithlords.com and that is where he will get all the information he needs to build a screen accurate Vader with twice the accuracy and a fraction of the cost. Most off these guys do not advertise or have their own websites. The quality sells their items.
     
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