TFA Stormtrooper Bucket & Armor...Old School Sculpting: Snowie P.8

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  1. jimmiroquai

    jimmiroquai Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Hi all! Not really meaning to jump in the band wagon but i just love to sculpt (though i'm just a beginner) and i love Starwars! TFA is a long way off and i thought what better way to channel the obsession than to work on this bucket. :)

    I had a bit of practice sculpting the 2003 Clone Wars Microseries lids so i thought i'd try my hand at this.

    Here goes!

    Here are the templates based on the available photos from Celebration VII:
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    I based the size on my Microseries Phase 2 Fordo bucket which is roughly the same size as the original Stormy bucket. I printed out the template and traced them unto foam board. I then cut the shapes out, removed the backing paper and build the basic frame.
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    I'm using XPS foam and sculpting in quadrants to help me maintain symmetry. I also use expanding PU spray foam to fill gaps / fix mistakes.
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    Here it is roughed out. Just the basic shape. Next step is refining the shape and fixing symmetry issues. As i'm doing this all by hand, there are bound to be some left over symmetry issues. I have to step away from the project several times so i can see mistakes with fresh eyes.
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    And here it is after refining the main shape. Rough sculpting is more or less done for the moment. I painted the black parts with acrylic so i can better compare with pictures and the templates.
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    Next step is what i'm dreading most: surface finishing with bondo and the next-to-endless sanding...

    What do you guys think? Feedback very welcome! Especially at this stage of the project.
     
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  2. Sni9er

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    Good start look forward to seeing the result havent seen to many foam sculpts ^^
     
  3. James Kenobi 1138

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    The old fashioned way is still the best way.

    Are you going to plaster mold the foam, pull a plaster copy and then refine the plaster copy and mold it?
     
  4. jimmiroquai

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    Thanks!

    I'll be painting this with an acrylic emulsion then a few coats of epoxy resin. Then unto bondo. Hmmm, I haven't tried making a plaster casting to refine...
     
  5. MasterEdi

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    Looks great so far!!!... Love old school approaches, keep up the fantastic work! .. And please share more with us!:thumbsup
     
  6. Tumbler

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    Looks really great so far. Nice job on keeping the symmetry, looks very balanced. Never realized other medium used under the clay. I guess I always assumed it just started with a big blob of clay. Makes sense. Thanks for sharing and the education.
     
  7. jimmiroquai

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    Thanks! This is how i check for symmetry:

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  8. jimmiroquai

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    I refined the shape some more. I did notice that i took away too much material in some areas. This will have to be built up during the surface finishing. Comparing closely with the pics from Celebration, i need to build up the front plate area under the eyes and move the brow a bit lower and forward. But i think the overall shape is pretty close.

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  9. CT7567

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    Wow this is fantastic! This method is always amazing and more spectacular to watch than digital modeling. The only thing i see is that I think the right side of the chin under the mic tip/hole looks to be bulging a little on the low side. Other than that keep up the great work! Subscribed!
     
  10. jimmiroquai

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    Update on the helmet:
    Clay over the foam master..with a greebly made of illustration board
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    Oh and i thought, i'd have a go at the rest of the armor as well. :)
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    Would anyone be so kind as to share the dimensions of the abdominal and belt boxes? As well as the diameter and length of the thermal detonator?

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  11. ohheyitschris

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    This is turning out great! I'm definitely going to follow this build.
     
  12. jimmiroquai

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    Sculpting the master is done. Next step: casting the prototype.[​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
     
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    This is looking really good. Can't wait to see the evolution of this.
     
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    Great job so far.
     
  15. PhortKnight

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    This is an incredible build, do you this kind of work for a living!?
     
  16. Bayani

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    Looks very promising!

    Thanks for sharing.
     
  17. TazMan2000

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    Holy crap! You really have some skills.

    TazMan2000
     
  18. garymorris

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    wow! that some gnarly awesome sculpting!
     
  19. jimmiroquai

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    Thanks! I'm just a beginner though and still learning. Oh and just to clear up the confusion, I sculpted the main foam form, and i asked my friend to help me with the surface finishing with clay as i am still unfamiliar with the medium. In the past, i would've used a ton of bondo and sanding, but that took too much of the fun away from the project. So i'm still learning to use the stuff, hence the Count Dooku side project elsewhere in this section. :)

    So, no, i don't do this for a living. I'm actually a doctor and on single parent duty while my doctor wife is doing some further training abroad for a year. So this is done on my spare time. :) When i retire, then just doing this would be awesome. :)

    In the mean time it's practice practice practice.
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  20. Tumbler

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    A beginner you say. Doesn't appear so :)

    Great Dooku!
     
  21. IamSteve

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    Subscribed! Awesome thread!
     
  22. jimmiroquai

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    Here's the first rough cast.[​IMG]
     
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  23. jimmiroquai

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    Some updates on the armor as well.
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  24. jimmiroquai

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  25. jimmiroquai

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    Small TFA armor update: working on the forms for the hand guards:

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    All that's left to do: cod, butt, and the dreaded detonator...
     
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  26. jimmiroquai

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    Last pieces of the puzzle:
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  27. jimmiroquai

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    Asked a friend to help with the detonator:[​IMG][​IMG]

    Surface finishing on the rest of the parts:[​IMG]

    Still working out the kinks on the helmet.
    But everything is almost ready for molding and casting.
     
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  28. jimmiroquai

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    Refining the helmet. The initial problem was i based the sculpt off of different builds...now just basing it off purely on the screen used helmets. I think it's finally getting close to where i want it to be.

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  29. Al May

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    What a great improvement, keep at it , I can't wait to see how this turns out:love
     
  30. vaderjeff1744

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    VERY NICE!!! Keep up the good work!!!:thumbsup
     
  31. Chicagovader

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    Looks fantastic so far!
     
  32. jimmiroquai

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    Thanks!

    Here is the main shape refined:
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  33. UT Trooper

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    Subscribed. Do you plan to make ABS armor out of those molds? If so, do you plan on selling kits?
     
  34. Al May

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    This has to be the best fan sculpt I have seen to date, as I have said before this is fantastic work and I am more than impressed that you are not afraid to incorrperate changes as you progress though this , I constantly look forward to your updates on this thread and look forward to seeing this completed, well done ,absolutely love this
     
  35. jimmiroquai

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    @ UT Trooper - ABS / HIPS armor is the end goal...however i do not have access to a vacuform machine yet. A friend of mine will be building one, so hopefully we can have vacuformed armor soon. In the meantime, the prototype will be made out of fiberglass.

    @AI May - Wow, thanks! Trying my best to base it purely off of the screen used helmet.

    Update:
    Cloth gaskets: not the screen accurate material but much more breathable and flexible.
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  36. jimmiroquai

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    I think i'm just about done with the refinements in overall shape. Now to make a waste mold and get a slush resin cast for detailing and fine surface finishing.
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  37. jimmiroquai

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    Here is the final master sculpt. Making the final silicone molds. I hope to have a few casts by next week. [​IMG][​IMG]
     
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  38. dejordzta

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    Oh my, that looks stunning.. You're tempting me to buy one!!
     
  39. Zanderonline

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    Amazing work
     
  40. Al May

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    Absolutely fantastic work, that revision of your first sculpt really paid off didn't it, look forward to seeing more pics
     
  41. jimmiroquai

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    @ dejordzta - Thanks! Getting ready to cast a first batch.
    @ Zanderonline - Thanks!
    @ AI May - Thank you. Yes, something was off about the first sculpt and, at the time, i just couldn't figure it out. Sometimes you just have to step away from a project then come back to it with fresh eyes....and a LOT of reference pic print outs. I finally happy with how it went and i hope you guys are too.

    Here's a sneak peek at the armor:
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  42. Al May

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    Man you have been busy, looking good !
     
  43. jimmiroquai

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    ^ Not as busy as i'd like to be. I hope to have most of the armor parts cast by this week. :)
     
  44. jimmiroquai

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    More old school scartch building: PVC + marker cap = TFA mic tip.
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    I'd love to make a more deserving comment, but I'm to busy picking my jaw up off the floor.;)
     
  46. Redtogusa

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    Subscribed! That is one of the best helmets I've seen. Looking forward to seeing the entire suit.


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  47. jimmiroquai

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    Haha, thanks! It took a while to get where it is though.
    Almost there....
    Stay on target....[​IMG]
     
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  48. BobasDent1138

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    I want that armor RIGHT now! Amazing work bro!

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  49. jimmiroquai

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    Here's the first cast, fresh off the mold! Helmet #001. :)
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    Waiting for the last few parts! This flexible fiberglass is awesome. It's like rubber. :)
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    Cutting out the lenses and vents:
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  50. BobasDent1138

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    I NEED IT

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