Pulseriflefan
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indeed - it was a Kodak Instant camera and no Polaroid :lol
Terminator - Sarah's polaroid
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indeed - it was a Kodak Instant camera and no Polaroid :lol
Chief Bast
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Sure. Granted, it's far from high-res, but should be a little bit better than the T2 screencap posted on the first page. :thumbsup :cool
dropshipbob
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Geez, I should have remembered that. I'll just chalk it up to seeing the film so many times that I forgot it.:unsure
Re: Terminator - Sarah's polaroid -- not a Polaroid at all!
Correct -- it's a Kodamatic 940 instant camera, introduced in 1983. Interesting camera, in that it's one of the late models of Kodak's instant cameras that ran in competition with Polaroid until the landmark 1986 court decision that shut down Kodak's instant camera business completely.
The Kodamatic 940 was built to use HS144 instant film. This film produced rectangular prints with squarish white borders, rounded corners, and an extended border at the bottom (where the reagent was stored before development), as seen here:
That's what we see coming up out of the boy's camera.
Of interest is that because Kodak instant film developed from the back (rather than from the front as with Poloraid film), Kodak was able to coat the front with a fingerprint-resistant matte "Satinluxe" finish, in contrast to the gloss of a Polaroid. It also means that the face of the prints have no separation between picture and border; it's all one continuous surface.
These HS144 prints are plasticy, and fairly rigid; not the sort of thing you'd fold and tuck into a pocket.
In 1983, Kodak introduced Trimprint 144 film; this was much like HS144 film, except you could peel off the sharp-cornered 4"x3" print from the rest of the frame, giving you a more-or-less conventional print that could be trimmed with scissors, placed in standard photo albums, etc. (Incidentally, the Kodamatic 940 was renamed as the Trimprint 940 in 1984 to help sell the new Trimprint film.)
Here's what a peeled Trimprint looks like:
This is the same as the picture that Sarah holds in the Jeep (and that Reese is seen with in his bunker flashback), and so it's clear that the Kodamatic in the movie had Trimprint film in it.
Reese says that John Connor gave him a picture of Sarah -- "It was very old, torn, faded." It's not easy to tear a Trimprint -- they're made of layers of plastic, and tend to bend rather than fold, melt rather than burn -- and they don't fade much over time, though the colors drift a bit. Ignoring that, here's my version of a very old, torn, faded picture that's been carried by a soldier for decades through a post-apocalyptic battlefield:
Correct -- it's a Kodamatic 940 instant camera, introduced in 1983. Interesting camera, in that it's one of the late models of Kodak's instant cameras that ran in competition with Polaroid until the landmark 1986 court decision that shut down Kodak's instant camera business completely.
The Kodamatic 940 was built to use HS144 instant film. This film produced rectangular prints with squarish white borders, rounded corners, and an extended border at the bottom (where the reagent was stored before development), as seen here:
That's what we see coming up out of the boy's camera.
Of interest is that because Kodak instant film developed from the back (rather than from the front as with Poloraid film), Kodak was able to coat the front with a fingerprint-resistant matte "Satinluxe" finish, in contrast to the gloss of a Polaroid. It also means that the face of the prints have no separation between picture and border; it's all one continuous surface.
These HS144 prints are plasticy, and fairly rigid; not the sort of thing you'd fold and tuck into a pocket.
In 1983, Kodak introduced Trimprint 144 film; this was much like HS144 film, except you could peel off the sharp-cornered 4"x3" print from the rest of the frame, giving you a more-or-less conventional print that could be trimmed with scissors, placed in standard photo albums, etc. (Incidentally, the Kodamatic 940 was renamed as the Trimprint 940 in 1984 to help sell the new Trimprint film.)
Here's what a peeled Trimprint looks like:
This is the same as the picture that Sarah holds in the Jeep (and that Reese is seen with in his bunker flashback), and so it's clear that the Kodamatic in the movie had Trimprint film in it.
Reese says that John Connor gave him a picture of Sarah -- "It was very old, torn, faded." It's not easy to tear a Trimprint -- they're made of layers of plastic, and tend to bend rather than fold, melt rather than burn -- and they don't fade much over time, though the colors drift a bit. Ignoring that, here's my version of a very old, torn, faded picture that's been carried by a soldier for decades through a post-apocalyptic battlefield:
guyverraziel
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Want.
Stilgar
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Now that is a prop you don't see every day... Cool idea!
In case you wanna play around with the hi-rez image Phase Pistol posted, here is a little tool that simulates the good 'ole polaroid-look pretty convincing:
www.poladroid.net
Give it a try and play around...
In case you wanna play around with the hi-rez image Phase Pistol posted, here is a little tool that simulates the good 'ole polaroid-look pretty convincing:
www.poladroid.net
Give it a try and play around...
Polsnulspace
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Re: Terminator - Sarah's polaroid -- not a Polaroid at all!
Awesome....might attempt this myself!!:cool
Awesome....might attempt this myself!!:cool
Too Much Garlic
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Man... deck5... you did yours in peeled Trimprint?
My 'very old, torn, faded' version is a print done on plasticized paper, so I could put creases, tears and burns in it.
Too Much Garlic
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Ah, okay. But is it even possible to make it like the original or is the plasticized paper as accurate as possible?
Not sure what you mean. If you want a folded, torn, creased picture, a Trimprint is the wrong place to start. You could manage a scratched, bent, dented, dirty Trimprint; that's what's in the movie. They cut from Reese holding a flat-folded picture that he pulled from his pocket to opening one that is only bent. Very old, torn, and faded, it isn't. I was going for that look.
Too Much Garlic
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Oh, I meant if you wanted to replicate it how it looked when it was first taken. Is that possible?
Kodak instant film hasn't been made since '86; old stock sometimes turns up, but it's usually badly deteriorated.
Too Much Garlic
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Okay, so would you suggest plastericized paper as a good substitute or do you know of something better?
For faking a peeled Trimprint? Heavy photo paper, matte-finish, painted satin black on the back.
Too Much Garlic
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Sweet. Thanks for that. Now I just gotta figure out how to get that made or get someone to make it for when I got money again.
I've been working on this for the last few days. It's made up of the still of the frame they say was used for the photo (thanks Karl!), plus two screencaps from the movie and a bit of manipulation here and there. I even hand painted some of the outline of Sarah's hair.
What do you think? It was very tricky to try and get the elements to match. It isn't perfect I know.
What do you think? It was very tricky to try and get the elements to match. It isn't perfect I know.
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Rogue428
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Heh.
Thanks!
And aye - The "LOL! WIND IS GOOD! CAN I HAVE SOME FOOD NOW? WOOF! OOH! BALL!" doggie does kinda ruin the mood
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