Terminator: Genisys

[Monster Dave]

Re: Terminator: Genesis

I think that the evolution of CGI in films has come a long way since Salvation. I agree too that seeing the Arnold T-800 was the best part of Salvation for me as a fan. But even when you look at the de-aged Bridges, you can really tell how much better the tech has gotten. That being said, it's been a number of years now since TRON Legacy so I can only imagine how much better it's gotten.

Arnold is 67, no doubt CGI will be necessary...that's not a slam, it's just pointing out a fact of reality:

 

[ghostryder]

Re: Terminator: Genesis

A little ot, but...

Watch Arnold Schwarzenegger Casually Crush a Few Things With His Tank

 

[Jeyl]

Re: Terminator: Genesis

A little ot, but...

Watch Arnold Schwarzenegger Casually Crush a Few Things With His Tank

I haven't been impressed with Arnold these past few years, but after seeing this? What the heck. I want to have fun with Arnie while I still can.

 

[Father]

Re: Terminator: Genesis

I think that the evolution of CGI in films has come a long way since Salvation. I agree too that seeing the Arnold T-800 was the best part of Salvation for me as a fan. But even when you look at the de-aged Bridges, you can really tell how much better the tech has gotten. That being said, it's been a number of years now since TRON Legacy so I can only imagine how much better it's gotten.

Arnold is 67, no doubt CGI will be necessary...that's not a slam, it's just pointing out a fact of reality:

Arnold Works at Gold's - YouTube

I thought the CG Arnold (Salvattion) and CG bridges (Tron) were pretty great, but you could still tell they were CG. I can only imagine since those movies were made theyre have been a few advances in the tech that would make them look even more convincing. I welcome an all CG Arnold in the new Terminator. I think today's Arnold looks all weird and stretched out. He looks like he went to the same surgeons as Mickey Rourke... not a compliment. Age with grace and dignity and stop trying to ruin your legacy.

 

[Dreddful]

Re: Terminator: Genesis

I wish they would address the fact that he is an infiltration unit. He is the model 101. I want to see model 1, 12, 200, etc. Not much of an infiltration unit if they all know what he looks like.

Franco Columbu played a different model in T1. I want to see the rest of them.

 

[Father]

Re: Terminator: Genesis

I wish they would address the fact that he is an infiltration unit. He is the model 101. I want to see model 1, 12, 200, etc. Not much of an infiltration unit if they all know what he looks like.

Franco Columbu played a different model in T1. I want to see the rest of them.

Good luck with that. I don't think the people cranking these movies out read that much into the original to realize that the model numbers are numbers for a reason... or that they even showed other models in the movie.... large hulking models in a world of war and famine and food scarcity, but large and muscle bound nonetheless. Maybe they infiltrated the resistence cells by showing up with large baskets of food?

 

[Dreddful]

Re: Terminator: Genesis

Good luck with that. I don't think the people cranking these movies out read that much into the original to realize that the model numbers are numbers for a reason... or that they even showed other models in the movie.... large hulking models in a world of war and famine and food scarcity, but large and muscle bound nonetheless. Maybe they infiltrated the resistence cells by showing up with large baskets of food?

I can dream. Source material isn't valuable anymore to the powers that be when it comes to movies.

 

[ghostryder]

Re: Terminator: Genesis

J.K Simmons in talks to join TERMINATOR: GENESIS! Is he playing Vukovich?

 

[batguy]

Re: Terminator: Genesis

Yeah, the studio/producers will almost surely continue with the idea that all T-800s/101s look like Arnold.

Why?

Because they are making a popcorn movie, not trying to obey a 30-year-old fictional universe.






Cameron originally picked Arnold as an "infiltration" model for a population of half-starved humans.

Why?

Because he was making a popcorn movie, not trying to establish a fictional universe that would hold up for 30 years.



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[robstyle]

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does anyone not remember Arnold was CGI enhanced in T3? More than anything it was due to health reasons vs age.

 

[The Terminator]

Re: Terminator: Genesis

A little ot, but...

Watch Arnold Schwarzenegger Casually Crush a Few Things With His Tank

Funny :thumbsup and great choice of music, Swedish rock at it's best

I thought the CG Arnold (Salvattion) and CG bridges (Tron) were pretty great, but you could still tell they were CG. I can only imagine since those movies were made theyre have been a few advances in the tech that would make them look even more convincing. I welcome an all CG Arnold in the new Terminator. I think today's Arnold looks all weird and stretched out. He looks like he went to the same surgeons as Mickey Rourke... not a compliment. Age with grace and dignity and stop trying to ruin your legacy.

It not just the tech that decides whether or not something looks good, it's the person or rather artist that creates it that decides if it will look good or like crap.

does anyone not remember Arnold was CGI enhanced in T3? More than anything it was due to health reasons vs age.

People actually watched that crappy "fan"film? :lol

 

[Bigdaddy]

Re: Terminator: Genesis

People actually watched that crappy "fan"film? :lol

It's worth watching with Arnold's commentary:
"since we establish she is a robot and not a real woman, I was able to beat her really hard, like smashing her head into the toilet, it was FUN!"

I'm paraphrasing a bit (been 10 yrs since I saw it) but I remember listening to him thinking: Doesn't he have a PR guy to censor him just a little? :lol

 

[The Terminator]

Re: Terminator: Genesis

It's worth watching with Arnold's commentary:
"since we establish she is a robot and not a real woman, I was able to beat her really hard, like smashing her head into the toilet, it was FUN!"

I'm paraphrasing a bit (been 10 yrs since I saw it) but I remember listening to him thinking: Doesn't he have a PR guy to censor him just a little? :lol

He obviously doesn't but he really should have one of those

 

[batguy]

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does anyone not remember Arnold was CGI enhanced in T3? More than anything it was due to health reasons vs age

You mean the "digital cosmetics" photoshopping work that is pretty much standard procedure in Hollywood these days? Yeah I'll bet he had plenty of it in T3. Just his face & neck alone probably kept them pretty busy.

It's always been claimed that we were looking at his actual body in the opening nude scene. I have no idea how much the footage may have been worked on. But he was visibly pretty bulky throughout the shoot even when dressed.


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[Satxer]

Re: Terminator: Genesis

Yeah, the studio/producers will almost surely continue with the idea that all T-800s/101s look like Arnold.

Why?

See, I think what it came down to was: After T1, they wanted to still use the model 101, to throw people off. Which after how popular T2 became, they knew they had to keep Arnold in it. T3, as much as we hate to remember it, had a tie in with the model number to infiltrate. TS was needless to say a nod at 101, because it isn't a Terminator movie without him.

In T1, you do see a different T-800 during the infiltration scene when Reese dreams. What's to say they can't? I understand that they are trying to keep the classic Arnie in it, which I am not saying to scrap, but add a couple other ones. Even if it is just a quick glimpse at an assembly line with different ones lined up. You watch, they would put in Dave Bautista(because he seems to be just plopped in everything all the sudden), the Rock, Liam Neeson...oh wait, that would be scary as hell. Imagine Liam as a Terminator...hunting you down...I'd be scared as hell with just regular Liam, but a Terminator Liam...*shiver* Sorry, the Liam thing just came to mind all the sudden and I thought it was hilariou.

I'm still trying to imagine O.J Simpson as the Terminator...especially after I only seen him in the Naked Gun Movies.

 

[Father]

Re: Terminator: Genesis

If they made Salvation based on the world that Reese was dreaming in T1 it would have been awesome. The plot could be as simple as the story of finding out about Skynet's retroactive-abortion plans and getting Reese to the time displacement equipment. Linking all of the dream scenes from T1.

THAT is what I was hoping Salvation would be.

But no matter how bad people think TS was, I still think T3 was GAWD AWFUL!!!

 

[robstyle]

Re: Terminator: Genesis

his hips/sides, chest and back was altered in T3 for various scenes. Again, if I recall, he had just come off somewhat back to back major surgeries for his heart and spine. The reason they went with sunglasses again wasnt really to make him fit the classic look but to help cut down MUFX and CGI work in that area to "de-age" him. Many now older film stars still use the old tape method and some still even use spray on hair.

 

[ghostryder]

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I always felt there were a ton of great stories to be told out of those Future War sequences:

 

[Father]

Re: Terminator: Genesis

Heck yeah. I just watched Salvation again. The whole Marcus plot was just unnecessary. They could have done future war and been 100% fine. Oh well...

 

[JBReplicas]

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The great thing about those flashback sequences is that they are so effective, try turning that into a 2 hour movie and you will probably appreciate them less.