SyFy's Heroes of Cosplay

I mean, on the one hand, what ended up being said on the show is what people need to hear after watching the past 6 episodes. This hobby really should be accepting, and (really the icing on the cake for me) to have it directed at genderbending plus size cosplayers also sends the important message that EVERYONE in the community is capable of being total asshats, not just the privileged skinny white ones. On the other hand, those girls didn't start it, some guy in the crowd did, and they were fully justified in their hatred of the cast and crew of the show for screwing them over (at least until the awards, thanks to the judges not caring about the HoC stuff) and completely altering the atmosphere of the con. So I'm very torn about this one.
 
did they make the soundtracks themselves?

I know that the voiceovers done for the Red Queen (Yaya) and Cheshire Cat (Monika) were done by UK based cosplayers and one of them was a past participant of the World Cosplay Summit and European Cosplay Gathering which are huge competitions.

So one can hazard a guess that there was a bit of time and work done in advance of the convention with the help of experienced people put into the skit and most likely giving Team Atlanta a huge edge if other competitors were informed on short notice that the competition would instead be a masquerade.

And for those wondering, Monika confirmed that she indeed get the licensing internship at Blizzard.
 
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I know that the voiceovers done for the Red Queen (Yaya) and Cheshire Cat (Monika) were done by UK based cosplayers and one of them was a past participant of the World Cosplay Summit and European Cosplay Gathering which are huge competitions.

I was about to say, those accents were too good for them, haha.
 
I didn't even see the entire episode tonight I was pretty disgusted with it. But after reading that post on the blog, I'm more inclined to believe the female Doctors.

As for the Yaya voiceovers, so that's another element that they didn't do themselves. *shrug*
 
I loved the message at the end, but wish that was actually allowed to be SHOWN throughout the 6 episode run.

I'm sure that there are innumerable moments on the cutting room floor that better demonstrate the sentiment the heroes all expressed at the end, but the producers and editors eschewed them for more moments of dram-uhhhh. Which is a shame, because then from a story telling perspective we're left with something incomplete. We see fighting and bickering and cattiness, but we never see anyone LEARN the lesson they tagged onto the end. (Which my eyes tell me was probably recorded at a MUCH different time than most of the other confessional bits, the continuity of makeup and appearance was just a tad off) In fact, the message we get, as it's edited, is: Be catty and callous until you win, THEN you can be accepting, because winning is what matters, and once you've achieved that, all that is left is to accept those around you...and by those around you we don't mean "those around you" but just those within your immediate social circle.

...and that's a shame. Because it's a great message, one I'm sure the heroes, themselves, would have loved to have been put on display more, but the producers pushed their agenda so hard that the arc they created for the first season doesn't make a lick of sense.

I honestly hope the show gets renewed so they can better explore that final sentiment, because that is what EVERYONE (Except outsiders) knows is the true heart of why we do what we do.

-Nick
 
I have been in a situation similar to the Heroes of cosplay.
One Halloween I wore my Taskmater costume to the college costume contest.
I won first place.

I had all the girls from cosmetology come up to me and say,
"You stole this win from us. You only won because you bought your mask for your costume!"

I was pretty shocked. This was my first win in costume competition, and I had people hating on me because I put a lot of effort into my build?
They assumed I bought my skull mask, but I sculpted, molded, cast and painted the mask.
I also put together my entire costume, and was in character. Not to mention my sword, and 40 pound fiber glass shield.( I used to much resin...^_^)

So to be shamed for putting as much work as I could into a costume and winning made me a bit upset.
All they did was get some make up and smear it on like blood. "Yay! We scary!"

The heroes of cosplay won because they were the best of the bunch. That is why they are on the show.
The people in the final episode had as much chance as all the other people who defeated the heroes all the other conventions.
They just needed to try harder.

I have placed in all the costume competitions I have been in. When you compete you don't leave anything to chance.
You go in with something you think is unbeatable.
If the deck is going to be stacked against you. Make sure your deck is bigger.
If someone has a better presentation than you. Then you know what your standard should be for next year.
Don't wine about it. Learn from it.

Also at most of the competitions I have been to it is required to have your audio recorded and approved for the skits. That is how it is at A-kon anyway.
 
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The people in the final episode had as much chance as all the other people who defeated the heroes all the other conventions.
They just needed to try harder.

You may want to read the article that was posted earlier, written by one of the Doctor Who Crossplayers about how the producers stacked the deck against everyone except the Heroes.

Considering previous reports of judges being pressured by producers to give the cast awards, it definitely has a whiff of believability to it.

-Nick
 
The people in the final episode had as much chance as all the other people who defeated the heroes all the other conventions.
They just needed to try harder.

as nicky fox stated.....check out this link

The Lawbringer: My Life as a Villain of Cosplay

i stopped watching the show after the 2nd or 3rd episode....it's just terrible....i felt like my brain cells were being obliterated....they must have the same production team as hollywood treasures....

scripted bs, fake drama, and ridiculous/arrogant people seem to be the main factors of "reality" tv.....

the drama that followed episodes 1 and 2 were beyond silly....a lot backtracking and trying to take the foot out of the mouth typeof ordeals...

this show makes me admire my cosplayer friends more....they dont dress up for competition, fame, money, or any of that mumbo jombo....they dress up to have fun with fellow friends and enjoy each others company doing the things they love....
 
as nicky fox stated.....check out this link

The Lawbringer: My Life as a Villain of Cosplay

i stopped watching the show after the 2nd or 3rd episode....it's just terrible....i felt like my brain cells were being obliterated....they must have the same production team as hollywood treasures....

scripted bs, fake drama, and ridiculous/arrogant people seem to be the main factors of "reality" tv.....

the drama that followed episodes 1 and 2 were beyond silly....a lot backtracking and trying to take the foot out of the mouth typeof ordeals...

this show makes me admire my cosplayer friends more....they dont dress up for competition, fame, money, or any of that mumbo jombo....they dress up to have fun with fellow friends and enjoy each others company doing the things they love....

I have to say that the article referenced was very interesting and informative. It certainly helped put things into perspective as far as some of the comments made about the show's impact on Cosplaying at Cons goes. Only letting people know a day or two in advance about the skits requirement does come off as a little underhanded. Everyone should have had the information ahead of time or found out about it at the same time. That is really the only way to have things be "fair." Not sure how much control the cast had over that though... I would guess not a heck of a whole lot!

What I found even more interesting was the comments and the responses to those comments by the author of the article. I loved how she handled the issue of tempers flaring on all sides and how things came across on the show as a result.

I wonder how people would react if someone not involved in a show like HoC were to show up at a masquerade with a kick-a** costume, sound effects/voice over/fx package, had everything okayed by the Con/Masquerade organizers and then went on to win Best in Show? Sound effects creation and editing and voice overs are quite easy to whip up if you've played with digital audio at all. If no one else had those things ready, does that then get labelled as an "unfair advantage"? What about if someone happens to have access to a real vacform machine versus a homebrew shopvac setup?

No matter what competitions are always inherently unfair in one way or another. Some people are more experienced, have more capital to invest in their costumes, have more time to work on them, have more talent, etc... I understand that for the most part issues raised here revolve around the alleged advanced knowledge the cast had of the skits requirement. It would suck to have that happen. But as far as having a bigger, better more polished package to put on stage, that's the nature of the beast in anything competitive. Some people seem to put together INSANE costumes in no time at all and seemingly effortlessly. I'd love to be able to do that, but my process is usually quite a bit more arduous. Will it stop me from entering masquerades? Nope. Do I enjoy my hobby any less? Nope. I try to put together a package that I think can win. If I do, great! If someone comes along and has something lightyears ahead of my build and whoops my behind, I'll probably try to pump them for information on how they did it and cry in my beer later!

And I agree about the sentiment expressed by many earlier in the thread: it's a shame that the show amped up the drama and conflict more than the "Have fun and build cool stuff!!" message everyone in the cast was echoing throughout the finale.
 
I know that the voiceovers done for the Red Queen (Yaya) and Cheshire Cat (Monika) were done by UK based cosplayers and one of them was a past participant of the World Cosplay Summit and European Cosplay Gathering which are huge competitions.

Thanks for answering that. Glad it was done by Cosplayers and not part of the Heroes' or Syfy team. :) I do wonder if they got permission to use their soundtrack, though. It's just weird that the show is up front about what the cosplayers do and don't do with their costumes, except a few things.

For instance, I wondered about the smoke and lighting effects on the dragon. I admit to being blown way at how flawless that came off and the overall effect. I was not expecting it and thought it was about the best part of their show.

But then I remembered all the other episodes when they showed us the cosplayers (and their roommates) stressing and working on getting the effects to work. But this time around, they showed us nothing of the struggle that went into such an elaborate system. I would think that would be pretty prominent in the build - much more so than how to carve wood texture.

I'm not saying they didn't do it themselves, I'm just surprised that if they did, we weren't shown any of them building it. Maybe it's a secret. ;)

I have been in a situation similar to the Heroes of cosplay.
One Halloween I wore my Taskmater costume to the college costume contest.
I won first place.

I had all the girls from cosmetology come up to me and say,
"You stole this win from us. You only won because you bought your mask for your costume!"

I was pretty shocked. This was my first win in costume competition, and I had people hating on me because I put a lot of effort into my build?

Besides what others have pointed out about the other contestants not having the same time to prepare their skit, there was another difference to your situation and what happened on the show.

I'm assuming you were part of the college? Then you were part of the community and not coming in from the outside.

Since I really never got into the contest aspect of cosplay (wow, I've switched completely from calling it costuming I guess...) I have no idea about contest expectations... or if anyone will travel from con to con to con just to enter contests like this or if they stick to a few of their favorite cons where their friends go.

In that Kansas City contest it seemed from the crowd reaction "Out of towners" that they are not used to it and certainly not with a television show in tow. In reality, all conventions are fair game to any cosplayer who wants to enter a contest, so the complaint could have been turned into 'hey, our convention might grow next year with better costumes because we have been featured on tv!'

And it might have been taken that way by more if the contest had been more fair.

I totally get that this show needs the contest aspect in order to have a finale at the end of the episode because the genuine con 'high' of meeting new people, posing for photos, sharing techniques and being wowed by everyone else does not translate well to an hour long plot line. Though I too give credit that they did try to show that aspect of cosplaying within the girls group on the show this time as well - it just would have been more authentic if they were not fighting with the local people.

So the issue is that the TV show is hurting and cheating people who had to sign a release so they could enter a contest they had been preparing for all year; people who have no other con they go to except that one. I guess the lesson is if you are entering a contest and asked to sign a release you can be it's not going to be a fair contest anymore and might just be better opting out.

I still think this show has some real potential to benefit the community... as I said by expanding competitions into something more theatrical and entertaining but also with some tweaks they could support other costumers not on the show.

For instance, if they do another season show some positive interactions of the cast with other costumers at the cons. Less time fretting, working on costumes in the hotel rooms and more out on the floor, posing for photos with others, being supportive, asking people not on the show (be it other contestants or just on the floor) how they built their costume. Show that cosplay is a community that cares about more than contests and cliques.
 
I honestly hope the show gets renewed.....

Someone said earlier in this thread about filming at Dragoncon. I didn't know if it was at DC last year or this year, but since we never saw DC on HoC then it's either unused footage or new footage for a future season.
 
You know, I wanted to reply to a few posts last night. About there being two sides to every story and the nature of Reality TV...

But then It occurred to me, I really just don't care. :D

Heroes of Cosplay was a lot of fun to watch and this thread has been very entertaining to read. My expectations of Heroes of Cosplay were met and perhaps exceeded. I'm looking forward to reading about what wasn't highlighted in the show on these forums and forums like the RPF and that's the process of the craft.
 
Someone said earlier in this thread about filming at Dragoncon. I didn't know if it was at DC last year or this year, but since we never saw DC on HoC then it's either unused footage or new footage for a future season.

The DragonCon thing seemed to be a photoshoot, but I don't really know that. I do know that it was this year's con, after HoC had started airing.
 
Apparently they shut down half of the 10th floor for Dragon*con, held up elevators and the "heroes" and the filming crew were absolutely horrible to those people trying to meet up for photoshoots and use the 10th floor for what it's there for: meeting and gathering.

Why no one reported them to con and hotel security is beyond me. Holding up elevators and blocking stairwells is breaking a HUGE fire code. There's already enough trouble with the Marriott elevators as it is.

I'm hard pressed to believe all of this is fake. Especially from going to Dragon*con for so long and knowing alot of people who aren't friends with about 2-3 people from this show, that know their true colors.

Listen, ground rules should always be if you're in a costume you're no better than anyone else. Skill set or no. You treat someone like crap for no reason, you deserve the backlash you get.

I'll never understand trying to get famous for wearing a costume. Are you trying to get into the Union? Ok, but why would you showcase yourself as a "cosplayer"? Isn't that the teensiest bit unprofessional??

Go to a con. Wear a costume. Make a FB page to showcase it, sure. Make friends. Rinse, wash, repeat. That's what costuming at conventions was all about in the first place. All this Cheerleaders against the nerds garbage and showcasing it on tv, is really mind numbing.

This is my direct and general stance on the show and all of it:
Brian, I don't feel so good - YouTube
 
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I have no idea what happened at other conventions, but as for MegaCon the show did not influence the judges decisions. I made sure to stress to the judges to be completely independent and choose who they thought was best. The show did change how I normally organize some parts of the contest, but nothing that affected the contestants. We added an overall "Best in Show" category with 2nd and 3rd place, which we didn't have before. We just had winners for each category. Next year, though, I think I'll keep a top prize for the best overall costume. They also paid to have the stage dressed up nicer and provided the cash prizes. I guess the usual plaques just wasn't that exciting!

The only real "fakery" that went on is having scripted questions for the judges to ask the show contestants. To balance things out, they were also directed to ask other random contestants questions. Some of that made the show.

The cash prizes were a bit of fakery, too, since it went along with the premise that these contests are "big business" for contestants. We've never given money before.

Scott
 
I read the article linked that the female Doctor wrote, and while I can sympathize I also have this thought: Okay, so your hometown Con is a smaller one. But to exclude any contestant because they are from out of town is crazy.

What if these female Doctors lived in San Diego, and they only had a few hundred dollars to make costumes and they can't afford to go to out-of-town Cons so the San Diego Comic-con was the only one they went to, would they be upset because there were out-of-towners competing against them at the Masquerade? What if they lived local to Atlanta and it was only DC where they competed?

Conventions draw a crowd and people drive in from all over, it's how Cons work.
 
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I want to send out CONGRATULATIONS to Jinyo and Victoria on their engagement! I’m really bummed we weren’t able to meet you guys at Planet Comicon, but we wish you all the best! We did manage to chat with Yaya, Riddle and Monika while they were at the show. Riddle was a gem and I enjoyed speaking to her! Unfortunately, we missed the other cast members. :( I’m really bummed I didn’t get the chance to meet Holly and some of the other cast members. Hopefully there will be a next time. I do want to send a Thank You to Chloe Dykstra for the feature in “Just Cos.” With that said, I would hope you all would like to return to Planet Comicon to come hang out with us again! :)

We actually got a few seconds of air time on Heroes of Cosplay and it was nice to see our suits on the Television Screen. We originally were not going to be in the competition, but SyFy pleaded with us to enter the group category. Five minutes before we took the stage they told us we needed to do a skit. What the hell is a skit?? Iron Man doesn’t do skits! LOL It was a huge pain and we had our fair share of the crazy action, but there we are on the TV Screen. Here’s a little snippet of RPF member (Me), Judge_Hellfast (War Machine) and the rest of the IBOT Team from IBOT –Iron Brothers of Topeka! HOME - IBOT -Iron Brothers of Topeka

Hope you enjoy and sorry for the cheap plug and the poor video. LOL


 
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Your Iron Man group deserved the award more than Yaya's group. The fairy group was cute, but honestly I didn't think they were that impressive. The Doctor Who group was pretty good.
 
I want to send out CONGRATULATIONS to Jinyo and Victoria on their engagement! I’m really bummed we weren’t able to meet you guys at Planet Comicon, but we wish you all the best! We did manage to chat with Yaya, Riddle and Monika while they were at the show. Riddle was a gem and I enjoyed speaking to her! Unfortunately, we missed the other cast members. :( I’m really bummed I didn’t get the chance to meet Holly and some of the other cast members. Hopefully there will be a next time. I do want to send a Thank You to Chloe Dykstra for the feature in “Just Cos.” With that said, I would hope you all would like to return to Planet Comicon to come hang out with us again! :)

We actually got a few seconds of air time on Heroes of Cosplay and it was nice to see our suits on the Television Screen. We originally were not going to be in the competition, but SyFy pleaded with us to enter the group category. Five minutes before we took the stage they told us we needed to do a skit. What the hell is a skit?? Iron Man doesn’t do skits! LOL It was a huge pain and we had our fair share of the crazy action, but there we are on the TV Screen. Here’s a little snippet of RPF member (Me), Judge_Hellfast (War Machine) and the rest of the IBOT Team from IBOT –Iron Brothers of Topeka! HOME - IBOT -Iron Brothers of Topeka

Hope you enjoy and sorry for the cheap plug and the poor video. LOL


IBOT -IRON BROTHERS OF TOPEKA as seen on SYFY's Heroes of Cosplay - YouTube

I was wondering if you guys were on the RPF. That was stellar, and really didn't need to have a skit to win. I'm sorry they pushed you into competing like that but I'm glad anyone watching got to see the amazing work you all created.
 
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