SyFy's Childhood's End

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  1. alienscollection.com

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  2. Probe Droid

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    Wonderful book. I hope it's done justice.
     
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  3. 0neiros

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    The first 2 parts should be pretty straightforward, it's the third night I'm concerned about, trying to convey what's happening...they could really botch it.
     
  4. Wes R

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    Given it's the scifi channel i have no doubt they're going to drop the ball on this.
     
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  5. Axlotl

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    They knocked "DUNE" out of the park. But, yah - this will probably suck.
     
  6. Solo4114

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    That's about where I come out on it. I pretty much assume anything SyFy will be garbage nowadays.

    They knocked Dune out of the park fifteen years ago. The Sci-Fi channel of 2000 is not the SyFy channel of 2015, and hasn't been for a very, very long time.
     
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  7. R.P. McMurphy

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    One of my all-time favorite books so I will stay optimistic. No date yet that I can see other than 2015.
     
  8. Wes R

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    This thing is going to make Sharknado look like Citizen Kane.
     
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  9. Axlotl

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    Good Gawd, Man! Has it been 15 years?
    Time flies when you're old...
     
  10. Tremas

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  12. NormanF

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    The only thing I remember from the book:
    Was what the alien looked like when they finally were able to see him.
     
  13. dascoyne

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    Oh I wish this could have been a Netflix production.
     
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  14. Probe Droid

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    This starts tonight, boys. Don't forget!

    And fingers crossed that it's decent.
     
  15. 0neiros

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    Well so far so good. The reveal was incredibly well done.
     
  16. dkaniel

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    Maybe someone at Syfy is finally getting the idea that good science fiction is what they need to do more of...but time will tell
     
  17. R.P. McMurphy

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    I agree. Entertaining adaptation so far. Enjoyed it very much.
     
  18. Metaluna mutant

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    It's one of my favorite books so I'm really looking forward to it, regardless of the syfy adaptation reputation. However, I'm going to wait til all 3 parts are available to watch it all at once.
     
  19. Jedi2016

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    This is a simple one to judge, so I'll let you guys be the guinea pigs and I'll just ask this: Did they get it right? This one has a couple things that they really have to nail in order to classify as "right" in my book. Clarke's one of my favorite authors, and I won't take kindly if they screw it up.
     
  20. NormanF

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    I remember almost nothing from the book, I could have sworn there was a team working on getting a look at the aliens, not that they revealed themselves.

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  21. Kerr Avon

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    You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Years ago, I would agree the SCIFI channel (I refuse to call it that other name) was a cesspool of ghost hunting shows, wrestling, and other garbage that really had nothing to do with science fiction or fantasy. All thanks to a woman who stated publicly that she didn't want to have shows on the channel about 'space, robots and aliens' Quite frankly, she was a ****.

    In the last year or two, SCIFI has SIGNIFICANTLY refocused and is putting out some serious quality stuff. It's put out numerous new series, has more coming, and is showing whoever is leading the channel has a ****ing clue what they are doing.

    If you haven't watched "Childhood's End," you are missing out. It is VERY well done so far, and like I have said many times should be done instead of open ended series, is a mini series with a defined beginning, middle and end. Three episodes. No padding, right to the story, no wandering around as if they try to figure out a plot. No, this is exactly what SCIFI should be doing. Adapting the greats of science fiction in mini series, or making new series, but doing it with quality and love.

    And they are NAILING it.
     
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  22. Mike J.

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    IIRC, the UN guy had a high-powered flashlight concealed in his briefcase and put it up to the not-a-TV-screen to try to get a look.

    I read this many years ago, not one of my favorite Clarke stories, but I couldn't even name anything besides Space Odyssey that's ever been made into anything, which is a downer. Decades ago, there was talk of doing Rendezvous with Rama as a movie.

    God willing, if The Martian is anything to go by, and this is well received and does well financially, we may be in for a second renaissance of good sci-fi. Original and classical.

    Speaking of Clarke, I think my favorite stories, besides The Sentinel, are Against the Fall of Night and History Lesson. There certainly must be more, but it's been a long time since I first read every one of his books, or Asimov's, I could lay my hands on.

    I've heard good things about Sci-fi's Expanse series as well.

    Tell me, are there any cool props in Childhood's End? Any distinctive symbols for the visitors?


    -MJ
     
  23. rebelyell

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    There are a couple of silver vials that are interesting and a camera/droid thing but those are the only things that stand out in my mind. Everything else is pretty mundane. As for symbols, yes, there were a whole lot of those on tonight's episode.
     
  24. Mike J.

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    And we're talking about logos, right? Not symbol-ism, like, I dunno, devil horns?
     
  25. 0neiros

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    Symbols = Overlord Alphabet, and lots of them. Yup really enjoying this.
     
  26. Mike J.

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    I was really sad when Arthur C. Clarke passed. His was the first celebrity death that really affected me, because I'd grown up reading his books.

    I'm actually reading Childhood's End right now, that's why I'm so interested in how faithful they are.
     
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    Pretty decent ending to the mini series!!
     
  29. rebelyell

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    I haven't read the book (yet) but I really enjoyed this mini series. It was one of the best sci fi series I've seen in quite a while. I loved that there were no big action sequences and I thought that the ending was beautifully done.
     
  30. SmilingOtter

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    I got to see the first episode, most of the second, and will catch up on all of it soon. I'm enjoying it, especially Charles Dance.
     
  31. R.P. McMurphy

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    Just finished. Very pleased with the adaptation. Well done.
     
  32. Wes R

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    He, Bradbury, and Asimov should be mandatory reading in schools. I'm glad to hear that scifi actually put effort into this adaptation.
     
  33. Sluis Van Shipyards

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    WTH was the point of this? It came off like a half written show. I still don't know why the aliens came and turned a little girl into a planet buster. It's like they forgot to tell us half the story.
     
  34. NormanF

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    They may have left some stuff out in the adaptation. They did not turn her into a planet buster, that was going to happen either way. The aliens were here to clean up the planet so we did not kill ourselves before the kids evolved/transcended. I do not remember much of the book so I do not remember if the oija board was in it or not.

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  35. Kerr Avon

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    What I want to know is why did the alien race have to prevent humans from leaving Earth after they cleaned everything up and why not let them have children after the psychic kids were born? It seems like they could have let the race leave Earth and continue as a species instead of preventing them from leaving when they knew it would cause their extinction.
     
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    My husband and I watched this over the last couple of days and I have to say, we enjoyed it quite a bit. I've never read the book and it inspired both of us to read it, so I picked it up for my kindle, and in the audio edition as well. :)
     
  37. Wes R

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    Actually if I remember the book right it was all pretty vague. I think the entire point of the aliens being there was to get humanity to transcend and then go extinct, had we left the planet to colonize there may not have been the transcending that they knew would happen. Been 20 years at least since I read it though.
     
  38. Sluis Van Shipyards

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    So they wanted the children to evolve, then the planet is destroyed and there are no more humans. There still doesn't seem to be any point to it.
     
  39. Wes R

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    Like i said it was over 20 years ago so I'm probably forgetting a lot of stuff. To me a motivation is fear that humanity might try and get rid of the evolved humanity before it had time to grow out of fear. Personally it's not one of my favorite books by him.
     
  40. dbuck

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    I have yet to watch the miniseries, but I remember the ending of the book being that the overlords couldn't evolve and join the Overmind themselves, but send others who have evolved into a non-materialistic existence.
     
  41. R.P. McMurphy

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    That's exactly right. The children evolve and assimilate with the Overmind. Humanity was a lower stage, a childhood that has now ended and we have moved into a higher plane of existence.
     
  42. Lear60man

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    This is the best explination I found so far, and no I didnt read the book. I liked it because it didnt wrap up in a little bow. We lost, or won depending on how you looked at it.
     
  43. 0neiros

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    Not really, we were destined for extinction regardless. Either by our own hand, or evolving to a new existence. Some of this is conjecture, and some is out of the book.. When a race is approaching the change, the Overmind sends the Overlords to help them along, as part of the approach to the change involves violence and unrest, like a CHILD throwing a "I don't want to go to bed"tantrum. The reason Karellen knew to wait on revealing themselves wasn't that they had visited us before, it was because we as a species had a racial premonition of their coming and that it meant the end for **** Sapiens.

    In the book at the end,the Earth didn't blow up, it along with us was transformed to an energy state, and Milo fekt a sense of fulfillment and satisfaction at the end, not pleading. In this the miniseries failed. As for us travelling to other worlds, Milo came back to earth because he just couldn't handle the alienness of other planets, just couldn't adapt, and knew it would be that way for any human. Don't feel bad, the miniseries didn't convey that there were Billions that ascended. **** sapiens time had come it was time to grow up

    My Father raised an interesting point as to why The Overlords can't evolve and ascend. They are at a dead end evolutionarily, and he feels it;s because if you analyze them physically their homeworld must have been nasty for them to become the dominant species. ie their physical defenses - Horns, claws, wings, hooves, unlike humans whom compared to other Species is lacking physically and needed to develop our minds to dominate, Karellen's people didn't, so their minds didn't have that extra something that races that ascend do.

    Over-all they did a good job, the end was decent, and they didn't muck it up like Deathly Hallows part II which is my standard on how to not follow the source material for the Payoff at the end of the story.
     

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