SWTOR. Sith Acolyte/Warrior helmet (Adraas style?) PIC HEAVY

Discussion in 'Star Wars Costumes and Props' started by StewYZF750, Nov 26, 2011.

  1. StewYZF750

    StewYZF750 Well-Known Member

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    I think this is the first time I've ever started a thread on therpf so go gentle with me.

    Ever since I saw the "Deceived" trailer for SWTOR I've loved the look of these guys:
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    Particularly this fancy style of helmet/mask:
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    There was one of these warriors that was given a name in the Deceived book, he was called Adraas and was the Sith Lord that led the fifty Sith warriors that crashed the ship in through the temples walls for the suprise attack, so for this purpose I'll be calling this the "Adraas style" armour.

    I made my first attempt at the helmet back in 2009 for a Halloween costume, it was very rough and with the only real reference with being the CGI trailer I didn't make that good a job of it (at that moment in time I didn't even know how to get screen captures so I spent a while in front of my monitor with the trailer on pause.)
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    The next year after the "Hope" trailer came out I decided to have another go at it, this time there was better reference pictures and I learnt how to do screen caps, this time I got the helmet a bit smaller and a little more accurate.
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    Okay so call me silly but I got myself hyped about SW:TOR again, and what happens when I get hyped about SW:TOR? I go ahead and start re-making stuff for my costume.

    This time I'm more determined to get it right, and I also have to admit that I was jealous of the mask that mywickedarmor made.
    So once again I restarted my helmet, in the same style as I always do I start with a rough template:
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    and copy it onto cardboard to get the basic face shape:
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    I used a voice changing death eater mask as a template for the top, covered in paper mache:
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    This gave me these pieces:
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    Put together form:
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    This lot was covered in paper mache:
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    Before being given some coats of resin+sand+prime+resin+sand+prime.
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    Fast forward (skip some resin and sanding) and it's time for some details:
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    So, last time I attempted this I discovered that I couldn't paint the fancy swirls very accurately (I didn't have the patience!). So what am I going to do this time. Perhaps I was foolish or perhaps I was taking notice of the fact that there really shouldn't be a timescale on this, I could after all just do this bit by bit and get there eventually one day... so my weapon of choice for the next 10-12 hours of freetime were these:
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    Did I tell you that I didn't have much patience, and I've always said pepakura looked like too much messing about with bits of paper for me to even attempt it. Well, now I've learnt the patience and skill it takes to cut tiny pieces of paper. Plus I have the numb fingertip to go with the hours of scalpel use.

    And I spent hours cutting tiny bits of cardboard and sticking them onto my mask:
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    Bit by bit I worked my way around the mask:
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    And eventually it was covered:
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    After I'd covered it and myself in glue and (crappy timewasting) little bits of cardboard I gave it another coat of resin, before spraying it with primer. It looked okay I thought, the details were still visible, so I added some rub'n' buff before giving it some a black wash with some acrylic paint. I ended up with this:
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    I'm still waiting for some red paint that I've ordered to be delivered so that I can paint the mouth area and the forehead areas. I'm pleased I've done this, I certainly consider this an improvement for my costume and I've learnt a bit along the way.
     
  2. Djymm

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    That is beautiful, great job.


    *Edit*
    I love how instead of etching in the details you used cardboard over the design then resined over it, I never would of thought of that.
     
  3. Lucien Kane

    Lucien Kane Well-Known Member

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    Dude this is awesome!
     
  4. tumbucu1

    tumbucu1 Member

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    great job.
     
  5. halowarmor

    halowarmor Member

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    dude That is sweet!
     
  6. Bandit-Jedi

    Bandit-Jedi Sr Member

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    That's gorgeous! Great job!!!!
     
  7. Gary Pahls

    Gary Pahls Well-Known Member

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    Knocked it out of the park on this! I love the detail you put into this

    *Edit* The cardboard cut-outs for the detail designs, was that your brain child? I think it's genius and opens up the world for more possibilities.
     
    Last edited: Nov 27, 2011
  8. MooCriket

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    I clicked on this thread really expecting to hate what I would see. Thankfully I was proven wrong. Great work! I really enjoyed how you got the detail to pop out(y)thumbsup
     
  9. Uopap

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    Very nice!
     
  10. writefast

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    Jesus in Manila this is d* fine work!
     
  11. wildabeast

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    Very cool scratch build....awesome details
     
  12. Bamabat

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    Great job! I might recommend using a black nylon for eye covers. I used it for my Darth Nihilus mask and it works great. Just string them over the holes and hold down with hot glue. You can see through it really well but others can't see your eyes. This photo has no touch up done to it. Good luck.

    Bamabat

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  13. Badmonkey

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    I have to say that this thread took me on a journey through the range of human emotion.

    1. Oh, not sure about that.
    2. Hmmm, ouch.
    3. Really, you think that will work?
    4. Not convinced that it's working...
    5. Ooooo, I just got goose bumps like something weird and wonderful is about to happen...
    6. Wait, what is that? My eyes just danced a little.
    7. Holy Maloney, that is brilliant!

    I'm very impressed with how you got that vision in your head and made this come to life. Very awesome build!
     
  14. StewYZF750

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    Thanks for the positive comments everybody, I'm happy that it's had a good response.

    I'm not sure if it's my brain child as such it just seemed like the simplest way for me to achieve this kind of detail. I've never scuplted using clay or anything before and I'd hate to even attempt this kinda of pattern with clay.

    Previously I'd stuck sintra on for the band that runs over the head and just above the nose so this was one step further, plus I already knew that I found it really difficult to just paint the filigree style designs on.
    I had originally thought about cutting a stencil to paint the patterns onto the mask but that idea basically turned into me using the cutouts from the stencil and glueing them directly onto the mask. I'm sure this must've been done before though.

    I got some more photo's today in natural light and I think the details "pop" a bit more in these.

    @Bamabat Yeah I was thinking of using some speaker cover material for the eyes, but currently don't have any to hand and had this black mesh material which was just duct taped in for now.
     
  15. Gary Pahls

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    I'm glad you steered away from just using stencils. The 3D effect of it makes it stand out!!
     
  16. AZJedi

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    Unreal.. very well done!
     
  17. papaz

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    very nice work. mask lookgs very good. the swirl detail came out awesome.
     
  18. StewYZF750

    StewYZF750 Well-Known Member

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    Haha, me too - I'm quite please how the mask kind of looks like some kind of pewter ornament.
    I was a little bit unsure about how much of the detail would remain after the cardboard was coated in resin but it came out just how I wanted it. A bristle must've come out from the brush though during the resin coat and that remains visible too :darnkids
     
  19. Zaxmon

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    "Like"
     
  20. Utherpend

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    I was playing my Sith Juggernaut last night and wondering if the armor you get in game will be half as impressive as the Sith Warriors wore when they took down the the Jedi Temple with Malgus.

    Have you thought of making a standard version of the helmet for sale, I would consider buying one for the right price.
     
  21. BlackKaos

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    Very nice Sith mask. I also really like the look of the SWTOR Sith Marauders. I created a pep file from the trailers. Was trying to get better reference pics but couldn't find any out their. I just figured out how to add a skin to my files and I'm adding the leafy detail to the mask now. Can't wait to see how it turns out. I really like how you raised the pattern to give it more detail. Looks very cool!
     
  22. Judge Spartan

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    Beautiful work sir, I love the 3 dimensional scroll work. Just awe inspiring.
     
  23. Panzer

    Panzer Well-Known Member

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    Wow, that final product is just beautiful fantastic work!
     
  24. Raddar

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    I am never as stunned as when i see someone take basically garbage (ie. paper, cardboard etc.), mix in some imagination and skillfully create something so jaw dropping amazing. My hat is off to you. beautiful work.
     
  25. Jardine

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    Way to go man! It looks great! Very Jealous! This is right along the lines of what I am wanting to do (once I get my garage back).
     
  26. StewYZF750

    StewYZF750 Well-Known Member

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    Doh, perhaps I should have made a mold from it before I stuck all the swirls on .:unsure
     
  27. Gary Pahls

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    Can't till you hit it with the red!!
     
  28. StewYZF750

    StewYZF750 Well-Known Member

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    I'd love to post pics of it with the red areas painted in, only I really messed up! :angry
    I used my complete inexperience to completely foul the whole helmet with stuck silicone after I tried to make a mold from it. I used warmed vaseline as a release agent but I didn't want it to fill in the gaps between the pattern so I went over it with a cloth to remove where it looked like there was too much vaseline. Unfortunately this meant that the silicone stuck fast to areas of the pattern, the silicone ripped in areas.
    I'm going to have to remove the small pieces of silicone that is stuck all over and repair some of the paint and small details that have pulled away with the silicone.

    Not happy, but I suppose I've learnt from it and I know this can be repaired or if not then it can be completely re-made. :cry

    Oh, and just so you know - the red paint wasn't perfect either it was a bit too light for my liking and in some light it looked positively pink.
     
  29. BlackKaos

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    Sorry to hear about your progress, or lack there of. Was really looking forward to seeing the finished product. I know that it can be frustrating but I hope you attempt this project again because I really like your take on the mask.
     
  30. Gary Pahls

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    Awww that sucks! We mess up, we learn. As far as color, I think crimson is the way to go
     
  31. CommanderNiyic

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    Awesome! I can appreciate the time spent cutting those peices out.
     
  32. StewYZF750

    StewYZF750 Well-Known Member

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    I had the day off work today so I attempted to repair some of the damage that had been done to it, credit to my wife who made use of her fingernails to spend a couple of hours over the weekend picking away at small pieces of silicone :love

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    I think I could perhaps do with sanding some of the areas that were previously smooth but it'll do for now, the extra pits and bumps can be battle damage and weathering. :lol
     
  33. oculus1857

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    NICE!!! Looks great. Any plans on bringing this to Celebration 6 in 2012?
     
  34. BlackKaos

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    Looks good. I like the red. I'm glad that you were able to salvage the mask.
     
  35. Finnlock

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    Yeah, that came out very nice. Great recovery from the silicone!

    Really looks like it's cast now, pits and all. top notch work!
     
  36. Uopap

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    I want one! Naoh!
     
  37. Arcko

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    My question here is: What type of resin did you use to give dimension to the cardboard scraps? I would love to use a similar technique, but I am novice at utilizing resin.

    Looks stellar, btw. The black wash really makes it stand out, you can hardly tell there was any damage what-so-ever.

    Cheers,

    -Arcko
     
  38. zeafour

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    Very impressive job... i think thats one of the sickest sith masks ive seen in the old republic material. You made an excellent replica, and now have a well working technique to use on other projects..(y)thumbsup
     
  39. mandalorianman

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    same thing happened to me as soon as I saw the trailer I wanted to make a costume.
     
  40. DARTHCRANE

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    Un trabajo fantástico!
     
  41. Ketariniii

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    Amazing work on this. More patience that I would have had with it for sure!
     
  42. TrooperJasher

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    Your attention to detail... AMAZING!!
     
  43. Cal

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    I am building one of these armors. Do I have your permission to blatantly copy you lol. But No I am trying to build one of these before the 3d movie.
     
  44. StewYZF750

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    It was just some polyester resin that I used, simply brushed over the whole thing to protect the cardboard undedrneath, it kinda soaks into the cardboard to make the whole mask 'like plastic'.

    Lol, you don't need my permission mate just have fun building it and show us pics after you've done.
     
  45. StewYZF750

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    Thanks! I just wish I could get to C6, but it's out of my budget to travel from the UK to get there :cry.
     
  46. Cal

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    Where did you get a filigree patterns? Just draw them yourself?
     
  47. Kommissar

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    the most impressive thing about this is that you were able to take the time off playing the game to build it!
    everyone i know is playing it nonstop!
     
  48. Cal

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    I wonder if it's another one of those games that everyone plays for the free month, then leaves it forever. Then when I finally get to play it everyone is gone and the game closes down :lol
     
  49. StewYZF750

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    I did a google search for filigree swirls and got some good examples of various swirls.

    Using the screenshot (on the first page of this thread) as the best reference I had, I scanned my paper template into the computer and placed the filigree patterns into the template to get something close to the screen version. I did this for one side then just flipped it for the other side and printed them off, stuck them onto card and cut the various shapes out with the scalpel. Some "filler" patterns were just cut out on the fly as they were only small pieces to fill in the gaps in the pattern.

    I also used the Sith Prophecy font in the same way to put the name "Takamatsu" across the top of the helmet. It's the name I'm using for my SWTOR main character, a name I've used since playing Phantasy Star Online on the Dreamcast.
     
  50. OBI WAN KEN0B1

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    DUDE that is awesome great job
     

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