I was serious, he decided that the costume direction they've decided to go wasn't good enough, so I wondered if he thought we were better off with nipples and all black suits. I don't exactly see what either of you are talking about in regards to the veins showing through though. The suit is most likely supposed to be a kevlar weave/high tech fabric, and it doesn't seem so far fetched to me that it has been molded with the muscle tone not only for intimidation but also for comfort and flexibility. From an out of universe, production view we of course know that he has a muscle suit under a costume, just like Cavill wears under his Superman suit. As for the eyeshadow, there are certain points where we have to suspend dibelief and ignore the things that are done sheerly for looks and ease of production.
I voiced my opinion that I thought the suit looks great, which I do, only to be met with sarcasm in the form of "Batbro, juicing" and having the costume compared with a poodle. I didn't design this suit, have absolutely nothing to gain from anyone's opinion on it, but I don't feel that the most productive way to have a civil discussion about something is to make jokes and tout opinions like they are fact and that anyone who disagrees with them must be lesser for it.
I apologize for the tone then and my part in it. Although I was (and am) being snarky about the suit, I don't in any way think you're lesser for disagreeing. You're 100% correct in saying that your opinion is as valid as mine, maybe even moreso (this is the internet, I dont know who you are. you could BE Ben Affleck for all I know).
For me though, it's not a new opinion, but one I've expressed many times here as one of the reasons that (for me anyway) Marvel is absolutely killing DC. They ask me to suspend disbelief as well, but there's usually a reason for it. As far as eye makeup and sculpted veins, I see no reason for it at all other than posturing. My basis is the fact that we know how several movies of various super heroes that decided not to go that route and ended up being absolutely amazing.
Besides, the comparison was brought up with mentioning nipples: any shirt thats thin enough to show veins will also show nipples, unless you wear pasties to tamp them down. They are more likely to interfere with fabric, not less. Also the criticism of nipples that B&R got wasn't so much that the world just hates the sight of nipples (on the contrary, most people like em), it was that it was absurd for him to sculpt them into his armor. This batman HAS apparently sculpted everything into his armor...except nipples.
Not to mention (COMPLETELY separate topic, and not about this movie but about the character of batman itself) the character always seemed to me to be a prime candidate for using some kind of personal HUD. He has high-tech gadgets for everything else, it just always felt like a massive oversight that made sense in the 60's when it didn't exist as a concept, but a definite missing piece now. But there are other options...lenses like the comic seems to imply, or even just doing without it. We now have multiple masked characters who didn't bother with that step and it turns out that it works just fine. I CAN suspend disbelief, but we only have so many. Why waste one (two) on something that's not only been proven to be unnecessary, but is actually a little silly?
Again, I get that you like it, and I DONT think you're alone in that. Lots of people like it, and the guy who made that choice is going to make more money this week than I will all year. Just saying that I don't and giving reasons why. Also, that I don't think I'm alone in the opinion either.
