Stunt Sabers question

[p0sitr0nic]

Ok, im trying to figure out something here. Im trying to make an accurate stunt piece of my personal saber. I already have the "hero" molded and have made some resin stunts, but never one ready for a blade. Most of the pics of stunts I have have a metal rod sticking out a few inches from the top of the "Emitter" area. I know this is for attaching the blade to, but: What type of metal tubing is it? Solid/ hollow? How far does it usually stick out of the stunt hilt? How big, 1/4 inch? Smaller/bigger? Also, if you have good clear pics of any stunt hilts, will you all share em?

 

[Zombie_61]

Most of the resin stunt sabers I've seen that were used for the Prequel Trilogy had a length of all-thread sticking out of the emitter for the blade to screw on to. I found this photo of a Qui-Gon stunt saber; it appears to be a solid steel rod rather than all-thread, but it may help:

 

[p0sitr0nic]

Most of the resin stunt sabers I've seen that were used for the Prequel Trilogy had a length of all-thread sticking out of the emitter for the blade to screw on to. I found this photo of a Qui-Gon stunt saber; it appears to be a solid steel rod rather than all-thread, but it may help:

Thanks. I have that pic, as well as a couple of a Windu from Ep 3.. Id also like to know how the blade attached, as obviously, that doesnt look like a threaded screw on attacher...

 

[Tan Djarka]

Id also like to know how the blade attached, as obviously, that doesnt look like a threaded screw on attacher...

As I understand it, the blade is a hollow tube (metal or carbon fiber) that slides over the metal rod of the hilt, and is held in place with a couple of set screws. I think whether the rod is threaded or not has no bearing on the attachment, except possibly to provide a little more "traction".

If anyone knows otherwise, please correct me on this.

 

[saberMaN]

well for episodes 1 and 2 they were resin sabers that had steel rods 3/8inches in diameter that were stuck into the saber as it was curing in the mold. they went through the whole hilt and stuck out several inches to allow a 3/4 aluminum "blade" to slide over and were secured with 2 set screws.

episode 3 was totally different

this time they had carbon fiber rods as blades that didnt constantly need to be replaced between takes like the aulminum sabers. in fact ewan used the same one through the whole movie (for the most part) the hilts this time around were made out of metal that the carbonfiber blades slid into and were secured w/ set screws. while there were some resin and plastic ones the main dueling sabers were simply a metal/plastic hilt with very little details the blade was slid into the hilt and secured.

sorry....i didnt mean to babble but it is my fav prop subject:$

 

[p0sitr0nic]

sorry....i didnt mean to babble but it is my fav prop subject:$

No no, babble away, i particularly enjoy the stunt side of lightsabers too.

 

[saberMaN]

well the only thing that upsets me is that we have all these photos for the stunts from ep 1&2 but no definate pics of the episode 3 ones. and absloutly none from ep 5&6. i know i know we have the v2 and the shared stunt but somebody on this forum has, i'm sure been to the archives and seen these stunt sabers if not held them first hand.....if only they would chime in and give us some more info:cry


im extremely anxious to find out more about the stunts from episodes 5&6 espically about the stunt blades themselves

 

[p0sitr0nic]

I actually do have some good pics of the Ep 3 stunts. At least the dueling stunts, the low detail metallic ones.

 

[Zombie_61]

I actually do have some good pics of the Ep 3 stunts. At least the dueling stunts, the low detail metallic ones.

I'd be very interested in seeing those (particularly the Obi-Wan stunts). Can you post some photos (or a link if you have them online somewhere?)

 

[p0sitr0nic]

I'd be very interested in seeing those (particularly the Obi-Wan stunts). Can you post some photos (or a link if you have them online somewhere?)

Ill see if I can get some of em uploaded. Theyre not the greatist pics tho.

 

[Darth Lars]

I'd be very interested in seeing those (particularly the Obi-Wan stunts).

You could see them up close briefly in one of the web documentaries. "This weapon is your life"

 

[p0sitr0nic]

Heres the best pics of Ep 3 stunts I have:

 

[saberMaN]

see you cant tell if those are metal or resin espically on the obi...look at the neck of the obi...its the same size as the blade :confused how do you guys think thats seeded in the hilt...i mean i know they used set screws but that blade doesnt look like it will go in the hilt bast the emitter.....what do you think???

Heres the best pics of Ep 3 stunts I have:

 

[Zombie_61]

see you cant tell if those are metal or resin espically on the obi...look at the neck of the obi...its the same size as the blade :confused how do you guys think thats seeded in the hilt...i mean i know they used set screws but that blade doesnt look like it will go in the hilt bast the emitter.....what do you think???

From what I understand, most of the stunt sabers used for dueling had resin hilts. My guess is they inserted a reasonably thin-walled tube (that would accommodate the blade) into the mold before the resin was poured; this would provide added strength for the hilt, and the blade could be inserted as far as necessary for a secure fit. Then again, they could make as many as they needed (with or without the blade, that is), so they may have simply inserted the blade into the mold because they wouldn't necessarily need a removable blade.

Either way, based on this photo of an Obi-Wan stunt saber (behind the Sidious stunt saber, obviously)...

...the pommel and emitter appear to be metal which were likely added after the resin portion of the hilt was painted.

 

[p0sitr0nic]

I honestly dont know if this is from Ep 2 or 3, it was just titled "Mace screen used Stunt"

But its obviously fully resin, and a pretty crap cast at that.

So please, anyone else with good pics of stunts, post em!!

 

[saberMaN]

that one is from episode 2. notice the 3/8 steel rod thats used to attach the aluminum blades

I honestly dont know if this is from Ep 2 or 3, it was just titled "Mace screen used Stunt"

But its obviously fully resin, and a pretty crap cast at that.

So please, anyone else with good pics of stunts, post em!!

 

[Primrodo]

Stunt sabers in Episode 1 and 2 were teh ones with the rod attached to the resen saber, with the aluminum tube slid over and setscrewed on.

In Episode 3, as you see in that picture, which is actually mine that Nick Gillard emailed me, had all metal duelling stunts, the black is actually painted. The carbon fibre tube went INSIDE and had screws hold the blade from various points on the saber body.

There were several rubber stunts made as well, but not for duelling with.

 

[p0sitr0nic]

that one is from episode 2. notice the 3/8 steel rod thats used to attach the aluminum blades

Stunt sabers in Episode 1 and 2 were teh ones with the rod attached to the resen saber, with the aluminum tube slid over and setscrewed on.

In Episode 3, as you see in that picture, which is actually mine that Nick Gillard emailed me, had all metal duelling stunts, the black is actually painted. The carbon fibre tube went INSIDE and had screws hold the blade from various points on the saber body.

There were several rubber stunts made as well, but not for duelling with.

Probably well known info, but thanks for clearing that up for me and those that didnt know =)
So Ok.. I have a mold of my personal saber made, i have resin stunt handles, but the mold is made in such a way as to not allow for a metal rod to be placed inside during the pour. How should I attempt to make a bladed stunt? I COULD drill down with a 1/4 inch drill bit, hopefully get deep enough that i can put in a 1/4 wooden dowel and screw it tight with set screws, but I have no idea how deep into the handle i can actually drill.
Any good ideas?

 

[p0sitr0nic]

Bump then ill let it go.

 

[Primrodo]

The only concern I would have is stability and if hit hard enough could shatter the resin.

The reason the resin stunts had the metal post all the way through was to absorb the blows.