"studio scale desanto viper"

[BlueSquad2001]

<div class='quotetop'>(moffeaton @ Jul 14 2006, 09:51 PM) [snapback]1281123[/snapback]</div>

Wow - remind me never to buy from such an arrogant, tempermental, and fragile ego, okay guys?

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Consider yourself reminded.
Arrogant? Damn right.
Tempermental? That would depend on the the person asking for it.
Fragile Ego? Now that's a new one. Okay try this. When you present to all of us here a degree that states you are somehow qualified to make such a diagnosis, then I'll be more inclined to listen with interest.
But, let's hold those kind of judgements to ourselves for a moment.
Do you know of my past encounters with cobywan? Are you some kind of "authority" on the subject or do you just have a delusional belief that you have been granted by God Almighty the right of butting into other peoples business and making a street level psychological diagnosis?
Really, I mean you don't know what you are talking about, so show a little pride in yourself and try not to stick the other foot in your mouth as well.
Try to understand things and gather enough facts so that you may be at the very least a little educated about a certain situation or events before throwing in your 2 cents, more times than not, you'll find that you have no right to do so in the first place.
Nice to meet you. B)

 

[Watson]

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<div class='quotetop'>(moffeaton @ Jul 14 2006, 09:51 PM) [snapback]1281123[/snapback]

Wow - remind me never to buy from such an arrogant, tempermental, and fragile ego, okay guys?

:confused
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Consider yourself reminded.
Arrogant? Damn right.
Tempermental? That would depend on the the person asking for it.
Fragile Ego? Now that's a new one. Okay try this. When you present to all of us here a degree that states you are somehow qualified to make such a diagnosis, then I'll be more inclined to listen with interest.
But, let's hold those kind of judgements to ourselves for a moment.
Do you know of my past encounters with cobywan? Are you some kind of "authority" on the subject or do you just have a delusional belief that you have been granted by God Almighty the right of butting into other peoples business and making a street level psychological diagnosis?
Really, I mean you don't know what you are talking about, so show a little pride in yourself and try not to stick the other foot in your mouth as well.
Try to understand things and gather enough facts so that you may be at the very least a little educated about a certain situation or events before throwing in your 2 cents, more times than not, you'll find that you have no right to do so in the first place.
Nice to meet you. B)
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That is the second person you have gone off on in as many days. Whether they have a stake in this or not, you need to check your attitude at the door. We do NOT treat people that way here pure and simple.

 

[Kuhn Global]

I agree with Jades. This is a place of creative thinking. I know there is some bad blood out there, but great creativeness often requires being in a positive light and thus any problems with each other shouldn't be dealt with on this board. If anything,.. a PM would be more direct than voicing frustration to all who don't need to hear it. It would certainly keep the person complaining from being thought of in a negative way from all who would read the posts.

There needs not be stress here,.. we all have enough of that in life already.. Would you agree? :confused

I could only imagine what people would say of me from time to time?.. LOL

No Worries Mates.

I appreciate ALL of you,.. and so the dream continues.

 

[rocketeer25]

BlueSquad2001,

JDH is right, we treat members here with respect. The RPF is a "No Flame Zone".

Just reading through the last page, it doesn't appear that cobywan's post was antagonistic at all, so your response looks way out of line. If you have issues with him from some other board, I suggest you take it up with him privately.

You're not painting yourself in a favorable light by ripping into moffeaton, either. IMO, Jason's comment to you was an attempt to point out that your attack on cobywan was over-the-top (although JDH's comment was more appropriate). Instead of realizing that and perhaps apologizing, you go off on another member.

I truley hope that your package is found. I know from first-hand experience that dealing with the USPS can be extremely frustrating. But please don't take your anger out on other RPF members.

Lonnie
RPF Staff

 

[Protector]

Comments and Announcement (and Introduction):

Hi everybody... I don't post that often. In fact, the only time I have posted here it to try to do damage control. I hate unnecessary conflicts.

My name is Terri. I am Michael's girlfriend and I have been trying to help him for over three years with his artistry career and more recently, his model-making projects. I find the projects interesting and fun, and I also love art. As some may imagine, it is hard to make a living as an artist, at least at first. The income is not consistent. An artist can make a lot of money one month and then hardly anything for the next three months. You just never know. But Michael and I make a pretty good team. I have been a state worker for 16 years, and have a steady income and a home with an extra room for Michael to use for his art projects. I also have an outbuilding that Michael turned into a workshop for projects too messy to do in the house. Michael and I help each other. I provide the stability he needs to be able to work on his projects. He never has to worry about a roof over his head, utilities, or food. In return he helps me out with the yard, repairs, some household cleaning, taking my son places, taking care of the dogs, etc. Michael gives me a generous share of money when he gets paid. I wish it were more, and hopefully one day it will be. We have fun together most of the time, but as one could imagine, we have conficts like anyone else. Maybe more than anyone else. I don't know. But Michael is there for me when I am down or sick, and he checks on noises if we hear any at night. LOL

I admit that I've had to invest a lot more than I thought I would for the modeling projects. Before Michael even told the world about the DeSanto viper, he'd already spent a year on it plus about $1000 in supplies. For those who don't know, lots of old model kits (mostly tanks or war aircraft) had to be purchased to get the detail "greeblies". I nearly fainted when I found out how much molding and casting supplies were, and again when it turned out we needed to order 4 batches of it instead of one. But I went along with it, as lots of people were waiting and seemed excited about it. Excitement is contagious. I also believed that it would eventually be profitable, so knowing that I could endure the initial sacrifice.

Some of the delays have been Michael's fault, and some have not. Most people have been extremely patient and more than nice. In fact, I've met some of the nicest people of my lifetime throughout this process. Even one new friend (Jim) spent a week here at my house with us, and was probably the nicest houseguest I have ever had.

I've read through this thread to find out what got Michael so upset... It seems that Cobywan's comment set him off. I read it several times, and although found the comment unnecessarily negative, none of his business since he didn't buy a kit, and other possible reasons which I will not mention because of the possibility of them being inflammatory and I could just be wrong and would rather play it safe, I think it is a free country and he should be able to say whatever he wants as long as he is not abusive. He wasn't. But it is my opinion that Cobywan did not deserve the verbal assault and temper tantrum from Michael as a result. It is also my opinion that if Michael cannot conduct himself in a professional manner, then he should either stop interacting with customers or potential customers altogether, or find another field of work. His attack was unprofessional. Since I help support his projects, I apologize for his conduct. On a personal level I cannot apologize, for that is his job. I checked the time of that post, and Michael had gotten 4 hours of sleep over 3 days and was grouchy at that time. This is not an excuse. I mentioned it because I have tried to tell Michael how unhealthy it is to lose that much sleep, and I hope he sees this as a consequence to his decision to wear himself out like that. I am terribly embarrassed and I hope he is as well.

My announcement that I have wanted to make for a long time, but held back because Michael promised to do better, is that I will withdraw all support from Michael if he publicly or through email, makes one more unprofessional outburst such as this. I've allowed him to make his studio and workshop in my home, and in my opinion without appropriate compensation. But when I am commited to something I like to see it through. In addition to that I love Michael and want him to succeed, and I know how hard it would be for him to do that without having a stable place to work. All along I have expected this project to eventually be profitable. I expected to at least break even someday. But if Michael continues to piss people off with his outbursts, I have no choice but to cut my losses and get out of this business of trying to help him. It was not my intention to get into this with him to endure massive amounts of stress. I hope that people will want the kits anyway, because they are so good, but I know that some will refuse to because of how he has acted.

Since I do not follow the boards regularly, I am going to give my email address for anyone to use to report to me that he has gone into attention-seeking overdrive and verbally assaulted them online. I do not wish to be a part of this if that is how he intends to behave. My motive is not to embarrass Michael (the most embarrassing thing should be his own posts), but to show him and everyone else that has invested in his projects that I mean business. He is to behave himself and act professional or he will have to find another place to live and do his business. I will not tolerate this. I love him dearly, and I know the good side of him, but people here do not, and I cannot expect them to.



Thank you, and hopefully I will get to post under more positive circumstances someday.

PS - Kurt, thank you for your optimism. You are one of the great friends that I referred to above.

Terri

 

[Kuhn Global]

Wow.. :confused

Terri, it is my pleasure to show optimism if at all possible.

As I stated earlier,.. frustrations are high with everyone, but I believe that in the end, all will turn out well... for everyone. It is a true shame when so much talent gets caught up in this type of thing.

I have hopes that apologies may follow this thread and mend areas of discomfort.

Everyone has to vent once in awhile,.. it just shouldn't be here for everyone to view if at all possible..lol. That type of self control takes much to accomplish and makes a person better in the long run in my humble opinion. Live and learn eh? LOL It's all good.

Enough self moderating and babble... lol...

Now,.. back to DeSanto Viper Progress reports. This is a beauty that has been a long time coming.

I am still excited about it..

 

[BlueSquad2001]

<div class='quotetop'>(Kuhn Global @ Jul 15 2006, 02:05 PM) [snapback]1281427[/snapback]</div>

Wow.. :confused

Terri, it is my pleasure to show optimism if at all possible.

As I stated earlier,.. frustrations are high with everyone, but I believe that in the end, all will turn out well... for everyone. It is a true shame when so much talent gets caught up in this type of thing.

I have hopes that apologies may follow this thread and mend areas of discomfort.

Everyone has to vent once in awhile,.. it just shouldn't be here for everyone to view if at all possible..lol. That type of self control takes much to accomplish and makes a person better in the long run in my humble opinion. Live and learn eh? LOL It's all good.

Enough self moderating and babble... lol...

Now,.. back to DeSanto Viper Progress reports. This is a beauty that has been a long time coming.

I am still excited about it..
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I'm glad to hear that Kurt. Because there is alot to be excited about and alot that is forth coming. :love
As far as Protectors post goes, I stand by my word.
As for the statments that I have posted, if you don't want trouble, don't get involved.
I appreciate all of my customers that are kind and that also call and or e-mail often, it has been a pleasure to get to know you all.
I don't go through these boards looking to throw in negative comments that common sense tells me would do nothing more than get a butt load of negative responses. I was thinking that others should not do the same, but I was wrong. Some members here have responded to my reply to cobywan, without a clue as to what is going on, and have no right to do so. They were'nt thinking. Their mouths ran quicker than their brain.
As far as this thread goes, it is best to drop it all, so that we can continue to get to the heart of this project and have fun with it.
Cobywan, fully understood, I am sure....that his statement would generate my negative attention, he got it. He asked for it. Not my problem, and I don't mind giving it to such a deserving person. As you know Kurt, I have just spoken to you, and you agreed that I don't go patroling around in here, looking to stir up trouble, or speak about things I know little about. Or place my opinions on someone elses thread, that I know would start trouble. I just don't do it. And I don't deserve it.
I replied to coby's post honestly, and with anger. I stand by my words.
But I will say, and without anyone's help, because I can speak for myself and think for myself that I probably should not have allowed my personal feelings for Mr. Coby, to surface here, it's not the place for it. It was not professional....It was PERSONAL. No one else had the right to step in and say anything, and it made them look really ignorant to the subject. They know nothing. And have proved it in thier posts.
I will now step back from my personal feelings and now become professional again, and keep this thread in that manner of conduct. I apologize only to those that are customers and friends, not to anyone else. Again, I stand by my words. B)
Thanks for the support Kurt.

 

[moffeaton]

I stand by mine as well, blunt as they were. I'm no psychologist, but I've been on this planet long enough to see the reasons behind people treating each other poorly. No "real" harm done here, but I'm honest when I say that watching the outburst against Coby and them myself solidified my decision to steer clear from your project, interesting as it is. I know that is a loss for my personal collection, as I'd love a Desanto Viper, but the last thing in the world I want to do is send money into what I personally see as a business transaction controlled by a tempermental artist.

I don't know you at all, and you don't know me at all, and that's fine and dandy. But you lost me as a customer, and I will give my opinion to anyone who asks.

Good luck in your future endeavors.

 

[BlueSquad2001]

<div class='quotetop'>(moffeaton @ Jul 15 2006, 10:20 PM) [snapback]1281620[/snapback]</div>

I stand by mine as well, blunt as they were. I'm no psychologist, but I've been on this planet long enough to see the reasons behind people treating each other poorly. No "real" harm done here, but I'm honest when I say that watching the outburst against Coby and them myself solidified my decision to steer clear from your project, interesting as it is. I know that is a loss for my personal collection, as I'd love a Desanto Viper, but the last thing in the world I want to do is send money into what I personally see as a business transaction controlled by a tempermental artist.

I don't know you at all, and you don't know me at all, and that's fine and dandy. But you lost me as a customer, and I will give my opinion to anyone who asks.

Good luck in your future endeavors.
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I'm going to respond with simple truth. I find your post completely laced with friendly affection toward coby, and have been advised that you are probably a friend of his, and that is what is behind your response. I also find it strange, that after my words to coby, without ever having introduced yourself in this thread, you suddenly make an appearance to place your opinion in something that you know nothing about. Or do you? I suspect that there is more to this than I know, after having spoken to a few of the more well known model makers in this community.
If I happen to enter the shopping mall, and see someone, who apparently runs the store that I and my family are in, shouting or removing someone from his store with angry words, I tend not to leave his store thinking that he has severly mis-treated the poor SOB, and I'd rather not buy anything from this @#$%. store, I generally consider that there is a reason for his actions and words and it's none of my business to interefere. Actually, it is also kinda humourous. But I don't have a problem with the store owner, so why should it affect my buying what I'd like? B.S.. You're just out to bat for your friend, and that's the real reason that you interefered.
Do not Judge, says the Good Book.
Two sides to every story, I guess. But, good research before one has an opinion is a good recommendation on your part. Thanks.
How's this. You run your business your way. I'll run it my way. I trust my instincts about business. Not yours. And by the way, you were never a customer and had no intention of being one, therefore you were never lost. Your words have no value.
But, good luck to you, and welcome to the real world.

 

[moffeaton]

I've never interacted with Coby, nor with you. If we're going to bring the Bible into this, I suppose my first thought is that I saw a human being treating a fellow human being like crap, and since I was raised (non-practicing now, in the interest of full disclosure) as a Christian, I didn't need to be friends with Coby to see it was wrong, and just felt compelled to say something. Your words caught me off guard, since the RPF has been so consistantly friendly as of late, and I posted as much for Coby as I did for the community at large, which I feel a little protective of. Not that I feel the need to police the place (it doesn't need me to do that), but that as a member, I felt the need to speak up and say "hey. that's not very nice". You savvy the context here?

You can (literally) preach to me all you want, if you think it gives your word more gravity than mine, but it does not. I have every right to be on this forum - same as you. I don't run a business, and I'm not a new arrival on the planet Earth, so you're going to have to find a different line of friendly advice, but really, I think we've both made our points, so there's probably no need for rebuttal. Of course, here I am tying away, but I see your condescending words and again - will defend against them. I'm not interested in attacking you, nor am I interested in defending people who can do so themselves if they so choose. You chose to "school" me, and I politely respond that it is unwanted. I do want to add that your thinly veiled references to "something going on behind the scenes" and prior subtext/situations/vested interests in this case are also pretty humorous. I find it amusing when everything gets taken "underground". I've been there, and it's silly and ultimately detrimental to the community. I don't do it anymore and enjoy everything and everyone a lot more. Resin spaceships and hidden agendas aside, this is simply about you treating a fellow board member with contempt - the same vibe of haughtiness I see in your latest post to me. It's as basic as that, seriously.

Yes, I was interested in your kit as I have the other Viper "stuido scale" kits and am a fan of themed-displays, but having no idea who you were, and seeing how long this has taken, made me hold off until people got kits in hand. I felt no need to contact you until I saw the kits in hand. Does the fact that I haven't been cheering your project on in this thread somehow make me less "worthy" to post on the rpf? Funny enough, I did the same thing with Coby last year, when I sat and watched, silently. I didn't know him, and when he was selling his little Galactica, I held off to ensure it wasn't vaporware. They shipped, and everyone seemed happy. It's not a perfect example as I never did get one, as a different company announced a larger scale replica, and I decided to wait for that version instead. But I use it because it is about Coby and a similar situation, whom you seem to think I am buddy-buddy with.

Have you said all you need to say to me now? Do you need to tell me more about this "real world" that I apparently know nothing about? I will respond with the simple truth as I close this post when I say that you have talent, skill, and a willingness to say what's on your mind that I respect. I still honestly wish you well in your project, and I'm sure there will be a lot of happy campers with beautiful kits, but you gotta control your tendency to belittle people on the RPF. I've been there - yeah, I'm casting the stone here knowing that I will full well can be judged on my history, and I know I am no saint. So please do not mistake me for a sinless braggart, or a babe in the woods. I'm a rpf'er that has made plenty of mistakes and as a result have lost friends in the six or so years I've been here. It sucks. You and I are, after all, human, yes? I want to see you succeed because the hobby is only as good as the talent it's members have. And you have talent.

I can't imagine what else I have left to say, but that all depends on your rebuttal.

Peace and respect, Jason

 

[Kuhn Global]

*whistle* :confused *whistle* I know there is some very serious stuff going on,..

Gentlemen.... :confused

It's great to know that everyone can voice there views on the situations at hand. Freedom and individuality are great things and I well respect them.

My view is that attacks on this board must end (subtle or direct) as they are not a productive road. In the end they do nothing except make everyone's day a bit worse,.. including the individual conducting the attack...weird, but true... Just as in politics,.. nobody believes their side is the wrong one so all comments hit deaf ears... :rolleyes sheeesh..lol...politics and views.... they always spell trouble. :rolleyes

I know there is much on everyone's minds and I would hope that the one thing we can ALL agree on is that we should get back to productive Studio Scale Modeling. There is where the joy is in this forum. Can I get an AAAAMEN?. LOL. Stand up.. ...Let me hear ya now?. :thumbsup :thumbsup LOLOL... give me the hot,.. stinky... CHEEEEEEESE... LOL. :lol

 

[cobywan]

I only know a couple of guys here on RPF personaly. And half of them don't even post or have different interests than studio scale stuff. I only know OF Jason. I don't know him personally. Actually I have never even talked to him before. (Hi Jason.) I really appreciate the support.

I think that Mike thinks I have some kind of vendetta because I thought his demanding of peoples refereces for rare studio models was rude. He went off on me, then he wanted mine. That's it. Nothing more or less. Not really anyone's business but I just it to be clear the full extent of the "Big Secrets". There's nothing there.

So advise from someone like me won't be appreciated or taken. That's Mike's business.

Oh. And about business. When money is involved in transactions with clients...you're not supposed to become friends. It's OK if it ends up that way, but business is business and there's a right and wrong way to conduct it. Nothing is more important than the customer. (Wich I am not. But that doesn't matter.) And the most valuable asset a businessman can have is his of her reputation.

I guess I am done with this topic. Bit I will always give advice when I see need for it. And really, that's the whole reason for sites like RPF and Starship Modeler.

 

[Dobber]

"Where all the white women at?"

Blazing Saddles





Just kidding around trying to lighten up things. I know of Coby from a few different boards and he seemed nice enough to me, and I've spoken to Mike several times and he also seems nice enough to me. Beyond saying that, I TRY not to get involved in other peoples business. I got no beef with Mike, Coby, or anyone........................................

Except Col. Sanders with his wee beedy eyes.....(another pop culture joke.)

Anywho, back to the actual topic at hand, what is the plan reference the parts, at what point do we move on to plan B, and what would plan B be...so to speak. I'm a patient man, just curious.

Chris

 

[moffeaton]

Woah - 3 million points awarded to the man who referenced SIMAAM - that sir, is my kind of joke.

Coby, nice to meet you too.

 

[Kuhn Global]

<div class='quotetop'>(Dobber @ Jul 16 2006, 09:27 AM) [snapback]1281841[/snapback]</div>

"Where all the white women at?"

Blazing Saddles

Chris
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LOLOLOL.... oh yeah... I just recently watched that again... too funny.

Thanks Chris,.. back on track.

 

[Kuhn Global]

<div class='quotetop'>(moffeaton @ Jul 16 2006, 09:42 AM) [snapback]1281852[/snapback]</div>

Woah - 3 million points awarded to the man who referenced SIMAAM - that sir, is my kind of joke.

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Yup... mine too. Good one.

 

[Mycroft Holmes]

I am going to give a little advice here,

1. You NEVER let your patterns go out before having a safety pull to resurrect from.

2. Unless you can afford to refund the money take no start up money for a job.

3. It would be better to have patterning, molding and some kits done and ready to ship before you take any cash.

4. Never make friendship and business mix. It causes a serious problem in the end when things go bad.

5. Reference all the other bad dealings on the various boards. I will make note of SMT's now all to well known Galactica Shuttle kit that never was. You need to understand the atmosphere. Too many scams and this one echoes many of them so to draw comparisons' is all to easy. And in some cases is justified.

Mike, you attacked me before Peter and some other advised you as to who I am and who I work for. Tom and I have talked about you and he has made positive statements about you. I just hope you don't go the SMT route on him. He is a super talented guy and I am glad to call him my friend.
I'm sorry you have had some problems. We all have had them. This is why you need to remain calm and understand what these people are saying and why. You are taking it to heart and I would too BUT you need to temper your response to reflect the un easy nature of this area. TOO MANY rip offs happening. I'm not saying you are one of them, just making note to what we all think in the back of our minds.
I know some of you here want this kit and will say and do anything to make peace. I, along with others were attacked when we warned people about SMT's shuttle. We were in the end completely right and our statements were justified. Not to mention our past dealings with SMT made the analysis easier.
We warn people not to slander or cause problems for the kitters but to protect our friends on this board. It pains all of us in this community to see deals and people go bad. It makes it harder and harder to get what we want because we just don't know who will be the next scammer.

My simple advice, and you won't like this, is to do one of the following:

1. Cut your loses and refund the pre pays or

2. re make the patterns.

And before you go off saying how hard re making the patterns will be you need to know what I have going here and have made. Lets just say well over $15,000.00 in kits and 8+ years in research.
I know its hard but this seems to be where this is going. I doubt the USPS will return the package in its much needed completely in tact status. Save yourself the head ach and start making a new one. With what you learned making the first one you should be able to get it done faster and maybe even better. I'm also sure that if you know the parts needed you MAY find some of us here willing to help donate parts or castings of parts to help you out.

Please Mike, stop the out burst and rants. It's making people not want to deal with you. And that will kill your business faster then anything.

PM me if you like but don't go off on forum.


Mark

 

[BlueSquad2001]

<div class='quotetop'>(Mycroft Holmes @ Jul 16 2006, 02:04 PM) [snapback]1281903[/snapback]</div>

I am going to give a little advice here,

1. You NEVER let your patterns go out before having a safety pull to resurrect from.Okay, this is all very good advice. And yes, I have some pulls to recover with. Never done this before, and I can recognize positive input when I see it. Thank You.2. Unless you can afford to refund the money take no start up money for a job.

3. It would be better to have patterning, molding and some kits done and ready to ship before you take any cash.

4. Never make friendship and business mix. It causes a serious problem in the end when things go bad. Sometimes, I just can't help making friends, I like alot of people worldwide.
5. Reference all the other bad dealings on the various boards. I will make note of SMT's now all to well known Galactica Shuttle kit that never was. You need to understand the atmosphere. Too many scams and this one echoes many of them so to draw comparisons' is all to easy. And in some cases is justified. I can understand considering the SMT problem, I followed that situation and studied the result from afar. That was rough.
Mike, you attacked me before Peter and some other advised you as to who I am and who I work for. Tom and I have talked about you and he has made positive statements about you. I just hope you don't go the SMT route on him. He is a super talented guy and I am glad to call him my friend.
I'm sorry you have had some problems. We all have had them. This is why you need to remain calm and understand what these people are saying and why. You are taking it to heart and I would too BUT you need to temper your response to reflect the un easy nature of this area. TOO MANY rip offs happening. I'm not saying you are one of them, just making note to what we all think in the back of our minds.
I know some of you here want this kit and will say and do anything to make peace. I, along with others were attacked when we warned people about SMT's shuttle. We were in the end completely right and our statements were justified. Not to mention our past dealings with SMT made the analysis easier.
We warn people not to slander or cause problems for the kitters but to protect our friends on this board. It pains all of us in this community to see deals and people go bad. It makes it harder and harder to get what we want because we just don't know who will be the next scammer.

My simple advice, and you won't like this, is to do one of the following:

1. Cut your loses and refund the pre pays or

2. re make the patterns. Yeah, it's a good thing that I have a couple of pulls.
And before you go off saying how hard re making the patterns will be you need to know what I have going here and have made. Lets just say well over $15,000.00 in kits and 8+ years in research.
I know its hard but this seems to be where this is going. I doubt the USPS will return the package in its much needed completely in tact status. Save yourself the head ach and start making a new one. With what you learned making the first one you should be able to get it done faster and maybe even better. I'm also sure that if you know the parts needed you MAY find some of us here willing to help donate parts or castings of parts to help you out. I really appreciate that, thank you.

Please Mike, stop the out burst and rants. It's making people not want to deal with you. And that will kill your business faster then anything. I understand your concern here, and must add, that I do not, and will not take crap from anyone, period. That being said, I feel a good day coming on and I don't want to miss a lick of it.
Although a P.M. is on it's way.
Thank- You.
PM me if you like but don't go off on forum.


Mark
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[BlueSquad2001]

<div class='quotetop'>(Dobber @ Jul 16 2006, 11:27 AM) [snapback]1281841[/snapback]</div>

"Where all the white women at?"

Blazing Saddles





Just kidding around trying to lighten up things. I know of Coby from a few different boards and he seemed nice enough to me, and I've spoken to Mike several times and he also seems nice enough to me. Beyond saying that, I TRY not to get involved in other peoples business. I got no beef with Mike, Coby, or anyone........................................

Except Col. Sanders with his wee beedy eyes.....(another pop culture joke.)

Anywho, back to the actual topic at hand, what is the plan reference the parts, at what point do we move on to plan B, and what would plan B be...so to speak. I'm a patient man, just curious.

Chris
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Chris...you are great. I appreciate you and the lightheartedness. I needed that. All is well as I have some extra pulls to clean up, and have not because the postal service has told me that the package would arrive, and they are looking for it. So, I have been stuck with a problem of, more money and more time to get the extra moldings in readiness, only to have the package show up, and I've wasted money? That would suck. And I may have to do that. If the package problem is not cleared up by Tues. I'll go forward with the new molds and get these kits outta here and to you all. You bet.

 

[Kuhn Global]

Mark,.. with every seriousness meant,.. that is some of the most brilliant and sound advice I have read on this board. I hope it ventures past this thread alone as it would do many good to read and put into action. It is obvious that you know your market and the advice is well noted...

Very respectable. Thank you.

I must admit that I am still wanting the kits though..lol. I am very much looking forward to receiving them soon.

As I stated before,.. my hopes are high.