Steampunk Ironman Helmet WIP - 5/31 update

Discussion in 'Marvel Costumes and Props' started by indiefilmgeek, Dec 5, 2011.

  1. indiefilmgeek

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    UPDATE

    This thread started as a place to discuss the concept and then morphed into a Work In Progress (WIP) after I agreed to build the helmet for Digitizit (and with his very skilled help!). Following the helmet, we will be working on the rest of the armor. Our goal is to have the FULL SUIT ready for unveiling at Dragon*Con 2013.

    If you want to get straight to the build, that starts on PAGE 2. I'll also add links to any posts of particular interest so they are easier to find if you're just perusing.

    OTHER POINTS OF INTEREST:
    Goggles & lenses for the lite eyes (video)
    Using Flowable putty (video)
    Cutting the Faceplate off (Video)
    Creating an ledge around the helmet opening where the faceplate will sit
    Carving details lines into the helmet (Video)
    Plastic-coating the foam faceplate armor plates
    Faux-bolt heads for the ear area
    Creating Custom Helmet Vents
    Basic Helmet & Faceplate in primer (LOTS of pics)
    Helmet Casting Process and Pictures
    Faceplate Hinge - First Attempt (video)
    Faceplate Hinge - Slider Design (video)
    Jaw Detail Work - 180 Degree Tubing - pt 1
    Jaw Detail Work - 180 Degree Tubing - pt 2
    Jaw Detail Work - 180 Degree Tubing - Casting/Molding
    Jaw Detail Work - Reset Gear set
    Final Eye Light Wiring


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    What's below is a discussion about this design and other steampunk related references.

    Enjoy!


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    Original First Post: April 2011
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    So, after seeing Johnnymuffintop's post about this helmet work - which included the By Design Ironman pic (below), I've been desperately fighting the urge to work on a full-size version of this suit.
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    My love of all things steampunk, and the beautiful artwork of this piece makes me want to order some EVA foam and begin working immediately!


    ...however, I've promised myself that I'd wait until at least the first of the year (after the holidays) to start another project and of all the projects I'd like to do -- and there are MANY-- I just wasn't expecting to be drawn into costuming again this soon.


    So, BEFORE I get too involved, I just wondered if there were any Steam punk Iron man builds already making the rounds?

    I know there is the famous (or infamous) version from NY Comic Con, which turned out to be a re-purposed movie costume (although still cool).

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    ...but as cool as it is... I'm not sold on that overall look (it seems a little 'thin' and too much like C3-P0 to me). I just don't buy he can kick *** - if you know what I mean.

    I guess it comes down to personal taste, but just like the By Design look MUCH better.

    So, has anyone taken this Victorian Era Ironman concept to full costume before? Any good reference pics of a similar themed IM build that you've seen?

    I'd love to hear any feed back you all have regarding taking on a project like this.


    Thanks! :)
     
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  2. Johnnymuffintop

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    Re: Considering a new Ironman Build - Steampunk??

    Yes... yes... YES!
    I love me some Steampunk (proper Steampunk, where everything has a purpose, not just a clock for the hell of it). And Iron Man is a great thing to use for it.

    I don't think anyone has taken on the By Design costume on yet, though I plan to at some point.

    Some other inspiration:
    Steam Punk Iron Man at Conceptart.org
    Iron Man Noir
    MORE Iron Man Noir

    And if you want a PDO of the By Design style helmet, TA-DA!
    Model thanks to a guy on 4chan, unfold by me.
     
  3. Hogosha

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    Re: Considering a new Ironman Build - Steampunk??

    I would LOVE to see this one done!
     
  4. indiefilmgeek

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    Re: Considering a new Ironman Build - Steampunk??

    First off, thanks for the file Johnny! That's a big help! :thumbsup

    I've also done a little more web-surfing and still have not found any costume pics (sans the Tinman/Ironman example).

    I did find a couple more toy designs, but I'm not especially into either of these designs.


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    Anyone know if there's a Steampunk Ironman costume touring conventions? Would LOVE to check it out and/or use it for reference! :love


    P.S. If this sounds interesting to anyone else - PepMaster is looking to do a run of this style helmet. Check out his thread HERE. :):thumbsup
     
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  5. writefast

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    Re: Considering a new Ironman Build - Steampunk??

    I thought hard about doing this but it was just too ambitious for my second build. Here are some of the images I was using for inspiration.

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    [​IMG] This one made me think "Iron Gentleman"
     
  6. indiefilmgeek

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    Nice pics, writefast!

    If I take this on, I think I'm gonna have to stick with something close to standard human height rather than tackle something over-sized and involving stilts... I guess I'd just rather spend more time on creating fine detail rather than solving structural engineering issues! :lol


    Oh, and in case I haven't mentioned this: I make costumes - I don't wear them. :love

    So, I was pleased to have get official notice from my friend (and fellow Knoxville resident and RPFer), Digitizit, that he would be willing to have me make this costume for HIM... IF I decide to do it.
     
  7. Creature

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    Curious, why don't you wear the costumes? I think the best part is having it all finished, putting it on and wearing around all the hard work you've done. But will agree its awesome to make a costume for someone else and see them light up.

    Just curious to know!
     
  8. indiefilmgeek

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    That's a very fair question!

    First off, I'm not the right 'build' for wearing a lot of costumes (I'm sorta built like a Hobbit). :lol

    Secondly (and more seriously), I just really enjoy making things... all sorts of stuff from wooden puzzle boxes and clockwork inventions to electronic contraptions and costumes. The fun for me is solving design problems and creating something unique that inspires, intrigues or entertains people.

    So, for me all the costumes and Halloween make-up I've ever done (since High School at least) has been designed for someone else to wear.

    Honestly, it more fun for me to be free of the costume and the constant photo-taking so I can walk around and talk with folks about the costumes and make-up! It allows me to interact with people without worrying about messing up my make-up or talking through a cumbersome costume. :love

    Luckily for me, there are LOTS of folks who LOVE to walk around in costume - and they have just as much fun WEARING the costume as I have building it! :):thumbsup

    Luckily, if I decide to do this costume, my 'partner in crime' is also very talented in make-up and costume-building. So, I get a collaborator as well as a model! :cool
     
  9. WalkingEye

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    Oh man this is a really cool idea. I'm not a very big Iron Man fan but all the iron man builds on here are so impressive. Especially the one you built for your son. I love steampunk and I'd love to see this made.

    The 'skinny' steampunk I.M. is really cool... What if you bulked up that design? Though I'd mod the arc reactor to look more like a gas lamp or boiler, have some gas or steam lines leading to it or something like that
     
  10. Shades

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    Re: Considering a new Ironman Build - Steampunk??

    I did some very similar research before the gf said "Another Iron Man suit? Really?" lol.

    (I then started desert storm batman)

    I think you have license to do whatever you want here. In my sketches I borrowed a lot from warhammer 40K. I wanted something along that scale and proportions.

    The key would be the weathering effect on the EVA which I haven't seen much of to get the hues just right.

    Also, check out homedepot pluming section. I saw all kinds of stuff in there that I thought would be great for a project like this.

    Good luck!

    Shades
     
  11. indiefilmgeek

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    :lol Yeah, I think my advantage is that I only played around with a 'scale' version... I've not done a full-size adult costume of Ironman yet. That's what makes this idea even mildly interesting to me (and something my wife can support as not being too derivative). :$

    We must have very similar tastes, Shades, cause that Batman Desert Armor is the coolest suit I've ever seen for the Dark Knight. I've subscribed to your thread and enjoy seeing your progress!


    As far as the parts of this build that are most attractive to me... they would be:

    • Weathering detail - I love doing it & and love seeing it done well.
    • Mix Materials - the challenge of replicating multiple materials like leather, steel, glass, brass, etc.
    • Clockwork elements - I'm nearly obsessed with finding ways to create 'active' clockwork elements for this build. My desire would be to create several pieces of the suit that include meaningful movements of clockwork details.
    • Work Steam - I've had interest in creating something that has a steam effect for a while now, so this could be a good project to tackle that.

    I'm still not completely sold on this as my next project, but it has enough interesting elements to have me seriously considering. :love
     
  12. Johnnymuffintop

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    Re: Considering a new Ironman Build - Steampunk??

    For the steam work, my best suggestion would be to get a tank half full of water, drop some dry ice in there, then have hoses leading to where you want steam to pour out of.
     
  13. indiefilmgeek

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    I'm actually thinking about using the same system e-cigarettes use.

    It's not as dangerous to use as dry ice and it's small (read: light). :):thumbsup
     
  14. breakpoint

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  15. Shades

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    Re: Considering a new Ironman Build - Steampunk??

    Thanks Indie.


    Like I said, I did some research on this and also was very drawn to the idea of "steam" in the suit to go really over the top.

    Here is what I found.

    Wizard Stick Fog Generator at Educational Innovations

    Almost bought one to play with. No nastry dry ice or big heavy batteries. I bet the internals on this are pretty close to an e-cig.

    Good luck!
     
  16. indiefilmgeek

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    breakpoint, yep! Your link contains the most pictures of that Tinman-to-Ironman conversion costume I've seen. If you're interested in more of the back story, my first post has a link to an article revealing some of the drama that came about as the FX folks and filmmakers of the indie film 'Tinman' discovered that one of their team had used their movie prop/costume to make that appearance at NYC Comic Con.

    Shades - that's FANTASTIC!!! Perfect for what we're considering! Seriously, that link might make me decide to DO this thing! :eek

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    I've also found some other reference images... I'm only posting ones that I found that include certain details I like. So, I'll disclaim any of my comments below by saying that they DON'T reflect my opinion of the craftsmanship or design of these pieces as they were created. All for the artisans involved are truly talented and I have mad respect for what they created. My comments below are ONLY in reference to what elements I like about the pictures as it might relate to what I'm considering in my build. :)

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    I really like the treatment of the leather in this piece. The brass-work is also less overwhelming that many of the images you will see if you search for 'Steampunk Armor.' But my interest is mostly in the little details of the leather/brass riveting - which is done very well.

    NOTE: I think one of the reasons I like the By Design so much is the way it is very much a steampunk look, but it is clean and not cluttered with too much brass, gears and other odds and ends. My goal would be to KEEP that clean-looking armor style (with any additional clockwork/gear details only showing up as hints peeking out from between plates of armor or joints for example).

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    On this picture, I like the design of the lower leg armor (especially the heavy spring look at the knee, the leather straps and the metal bands and toe-cap over the heavy leather boots). I don't know if any of this could be worked into the By Design suit, but I like it. :love

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    Now, while I am in awe of the leather-work that Ian (aka Skinz) does, I'm gonna point out that with both this piece and the other one above, I'm just not into random gears or tubing appearing on pieces. On the IM suit, I'd rather see these revealed within the joints of the armor only (providing only the hint that a complex clockwork engine running the suit).

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    Speaking of steampunk engine... check out this collection of do-dads. Wow! I'd love to have access to some of these for the elements of the boiler-pack on the back! :cool

    On the subject of backpacks and thrusters... I LOVE the design of the leg jets on this drawing by Zackary Coe (very cool illustrator - HERE is his site)!
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    Maybe there's a way to use some of the leg thruster in the By Design costume... maybe...

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    I also like a couple of the elements in this Bjorn Hurri illustrated jet-pack backpack (the fuel cylinder on the side for one). However, I think scale is an issue... I'd like to keep things on the subtle & smaller side of things rather than going enormously over-sized.

    ...and finally...
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    wtf? Steampunk Sarah Palin?!?!? Is this really a 'thing'? If the Tea Party is going steampunk, this fashion/style might very well have run it's course. :lol
     
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  17. NexusFX

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    rad idea, its awesome to see steampunk becoming more and more popular, looking forward to see this thing come to light! Subscribed! :love
     
  18. IronCostumer

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    Gosh darn't guys, now I want to design a Steampunk IM Helm! Another thing to add to my gigantic list of projects! But please someone get on this, because chances are it'll take me forever to get to it.
     
  19. indiefilmgeek

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    I'm extremely tempted to try it... Obviously, I'm spending some time researching it and sketching some things out, but I just don't want to declare this as my official next project until we clear the holidays... and I can promise myself that it will get completed (and be on time).

    Yeah, I totally feel your pain. :unsure

    It's one of the reasons I'm hesitating on pulling the trigger on this project until I'm 100% certain I can work it all the way through to completion. It's very, very important to me to fight off my adult ADD and complete projects I start.

    If you ask my friends from HS and college years, they would tell you tales of the vast wasteland filled hundreds of unfinished or half-started projects that littered my wake... After I turned 30, I made a very clear decision to work through selected projects until completion. And, although it's still * hard to do, I finish what I start now days. :):thumbsup
     
  20. Johnnymuffintop

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    I had been meaning to ask. What point of reference are you using for your design?
    Are you starting with the classic Iron Man design and then applying a steampunk touch to it , starting with the movie one, or just whatever works mechanically and having it be deep red and brass?
     
  21. indiefilmgeek

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    Definitely starting with the 2010 By Design cover artwork by Gerald Parel that you posted. However, since this is just a cover picture with limited sketches in the background hinting at what the back or sides of the suit looks like, there will likely be some liberties taken. The backpack is definitely one area that will be mostly made up, as it's not shown in any detail.

    Also, unlike the movie suits that were physically created for actors to wear, this suit is just a drawing, so there might be things that must be altered to allow it be something wearable at Conventions.

    Lastly, while I LOVE this piece of artwork, there might be one or two elements of other suits that I may try to use in combination with (or instead of) specific sections of this picture. The toe of the boot, for example, is not my favorite part of the suit. :$


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  22. Digitizit

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    Yeah, I said I would wear it. I also want to help build it. It's been YEARS since I've built a cool costume. I think this would be loads of fun to build and to wear (because I'm just that much of an attention ho).

    That means we BOTH have to go to Dragon Con, as I'm guessing there's no way to get into this thing without a lot of help.
     
  23. blf

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    SO....where are the updates?
     
  24. Digitizit

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    We've both been sidetracked on other projects, but hopefully we'll get back to this one soon.




    Chris
     
  25. indiefilmgeek

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    Yeah, Chris and I have both been pretty busy recently.

    For my part, the plan to quickly design and prototype a new puzzle box for my own evil delight has unexpectedly developed into something that will likely result in a very cool Kickstarter project - which would be awesome! :):thumbsup

    Aside from that, Allison and I are now fostering a FOURTH kid (cute little 2yr old girl). So, I'll have FOUR costumes to create this fall! :facepalm


    But in regard to the Steampunk Ironman costume, it's definitely on the 'to do' list. I just want to make sure I've got the time and energy to do it RIGHT before starting working on it.

    I promise this much... When we do start work on it, Chris and I will certainly be posting and sharing WAY too much info about it here on RPF. This community rocks and I can't wait to have all our friends on the forum participate in our build! :cool

    Take Care!
     
  26. clonesix

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    So would this be Steam-Iron man?
     
  27. Digitizit

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    Which, if left unattended, would become Rust-Man.
     
  28. indiefilmgeek

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    Re: Steampunk Ironman Helmet WIP - finally starting it!!!

    Ok, it has OFFICIALLY begun! Digitizit and I will be working on building the helmet element of this costume.

    Before I get started, I need to thank Johnnymuffintop for providing a pep file for the helmet. It's low-poly and pretty basic, but it helps out a BUNCH to have that as a resource. Johnny posted the link in the first page, but I'll post it again HERE in case you still need it.

    That pep looks roughly like this...
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    And while I intend to use this as a basis for the general shape of the faceplate build, I thought a pre-padded, pre-fitted helmet would serve us well as the base for the helmet's dome.

    Digitizit picked up a helmet that 'almost' fits his massive cranium (24"), and we are off to the races! :):thumbsup


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    As background, Digitizit and I both live in Knoxville, TN. We live ~10 minutes away from each other and both of us have wives, kids, jobs and at least two other side projects going at any one time. So this work, like some of my other stuff, will have to fit around our very busy schedules - that's just a disclaimer. :lol

    Part of that schedule is my family's upcoming vacation to FL to visit my folks (and play in their pool). And since I can't take Digitizit's HEAD with me to Florida, I asked if we could create a model of it this weekend for me to have.

    Being a clever guy, Digitizit quickly offered to (bravely) allow me to create a duct tape mold of his head.

    If any of his neighbors end up asking about this first picture, please assure them that it was 'all very innocent'. :love

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    After (bravely) letting me cut him out of that with an Exacto knife, we taped it back together and prepared to cast it.
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    At this point, I have to credit Digitizit for all the specific know-how. Cause rather than just 'stuffing' this (like I did for Mikey's mannequin) he offered to cast it with 10lb 2-part expanding foam.

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    I was VERY impressed with this stuff and am looking forward to inventing another reason to use it! If you haven't seen how this stuff works, here's a quick video of it expanding (extra commentary provided by 1yr old Digitizit-Junior)!

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    The result of this whole process is a rough model of Digitizit's head without any fine details, but it's perfect for what I need it for!!!

    Here is the final model with the skate helmet...
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    And here is one in the paper pep I did...

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    Now, for reference, I took the two best images we have in the BY DESIGN artwork and put that right beside pictures of the model head with the helmet. Here's what it looks like...

    SIDE VIEW
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    FRONT VIEW
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    So, there's our starting point. We'll both keep this WIP thread updated as we start to build this!

    :):thumbsup
     
  29. Digitizit

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    OMG, I look like a gimp. A cheap, low budget gimp at that. :lol

    That was my first time using the foam, if you don't count the test I did the night before just to see how much time we had to work with this stuff. And yes, it gets REALLY hot. Almost too hot to hold onto.

    I can't WAIT to see how this thing turns out. I thought the pep looked amazing! I managed to track down the artist and told him we were doing this, and he was thrilled. Based on Indiefilmgeek's previous work (and all the stuff I see him work on that never makes it to the RPF), I have zero doubt that this will be an amazing build once finished.
     
  30. DanielS

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    This will be so awesome :) cant wait to see more!
     
  31. indiefilmgeek

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    Increased the total height of the paper pep by a centimeter last night. I also printed and cut out all the new pieces for that construction. I just had time to glue together some of the face-plate before I went to bed, but I think it will fit better than the first pep. :cool


    The things I'm currently working through in my head are:

    1. The brow ridge. The pep doesn't show the same brow ridge along the top of the faceplate as the technical sketches do. I'll probably solve this by just modifying the card stock pep to match the drawings, but I also want to keep in mind that I'll be cutting this faceplate open at some point (so I can make it open and close). I'll need to remember that fact as I fabricate those changes.

    2. The chin area (behind/below the faceplace). There are obviously components along the check areas of the helmet, but since the main drawing of this is from the front and since the side views don't show the chin area, I'm considering what I can do to fabricate that area around what we have as reference. I'm actually looking forward to this section (and the eyes) quite a bit. The pep has no detail included in this section, so it's going to be a lot of scratch-building, found objects and physically testing the build to see if it works. All that sounds like a BLAST! :love:thumbsup



    For now, I'm back to my day job... where I'm swamped in work as we hash out which trailers to program this weekend before MIB3 (what fun).

    Have a great Monday!
     
  32. indiefilmgeek

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    Tomorrow evening I'm packing the whole family up (wife and, now, four kids) and heading to my parent's house in Sarasota, FL. I'm taking the head model, helmet and as much of my supplies as I can fit into the car with me. Hopefully, after I recover from the 11 hour drive, I can spend some time dodging the sun and working on this project! :):thumbsup
     
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  33. indiefilmgeek

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    However, before we head out, I did get a little work done last night...

    The skate helmet has ventilation holes on the top and back, which will need to be filled.

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    This is the view from the inside.

    So, I covered the holes on the smooth outside of the helmet with cardstock paper and painter's tape, then poured some fiberglass resin into the holes from the inside.

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    The result of this little test was pretty positive. After taking the paper/tape off and doing just a touch of sanding, this process has filled these holes smoothly!

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    ...now I'll just need to do the top 6 holes (pictured above) and maybe hit each of these with some finishing putty and fine sandpaper just to make sure it's nice and smooth.
     
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  34. indiefilmgeek

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    Modifying the paper pep...

    After reviewing the original drawing, I have determined that the pep isn't as accurate on the faceplate as I'd like. The basic issue is that the main flat faceplate area (over the nose) looks like it's a flat piece with two plates on TOP of that plate which have a gap between them (which produces the look of the mouth). The pep doesn't have a layered plate look and the 'mouth' is produced by a groove into the 'nose' plate itself.

    So, I decided to cut the assembled 'nose' pieces out of the pep I have and replace it with a smooth single piece that will then add the two top plates to.

    Here is the original piece as I began to cut out the nose piece...
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    Here is the replacement next to the original pep piece...
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    Here is the replacement piece now attached to the final pep build (the original scaling pep is beside it so you can tell the difference...
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    And here is a very bad picture of the two plates that will be added on top of the new 'nose' plate...
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    I've also filled the rest of the 'holes' in the skate helmet. I have bondo with me, but I completely forgot my set of sanding sponges (subconsciously trying to avoid sanding, maybe?!) :facepalm

    So, I'll be running out to the store in a bit to get that project started! I just wish it wasn't 98 degrees in Florida this week... the garage work is going to suck. :cry
     
  35. Digitizit

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    I like the changes! Yeah, I agree, this is more accurate to the way the drawing looks. Great eye!

    It's hot here too, so don't feel too bad.
     
  36. indiefilmgeek

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    Some more work done...

    1. Mounted Digitizit's head (rock is just holding things in place while the liquid nail cures).
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    2. Sanded the resin hole-filler in the helmet and hit it with a round of finishing putty.
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    3. I also took on the brow ridge. Again, the pep is a great start but on the artwork you can see that there is a groove between the brows. So, I created a new piece for that section.
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    And here is what the faceplate looks like with the new 'note' plate attached and brow ridge. The rivets are just penciled onto the foam plate as a test to see what they will look like. I haven't measured or perfectly placed them, but from the artwork this is where they appear to be. I think they'll look pretty cool when done.)
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    4. Finally, I attached the pep dome to the faceplate in preparation of my work to determine where/how the pep will connect with the skate helmet. I've got it taped together here for reference in these pics. Here's where we are...

    FRONT:
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    SIDE:
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    **Mikey was in the background when I took this one, and waved 'HI' to everyone on RPF!
     
  37. outofcontrolreb

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    Nice progress.
     
  38. Digitizit

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    I'm sad that you don't live in my garage. Amazing work on the head! You should go on vacation more often. I'm REALLY looking forward to the painting stage!!
     
  39. indiefilmgeek

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    Started to work on connecting the paper pep to the helmet in preparation for hardening it all with fiberglass.

    Here is what I have so far...

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    1/2 FRONT:
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    SIDE:
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    BACK:
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    HIGH ANGLE:
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    I still have some work to do on the 'jaw' area - which will need to be connected to the back of the helmet so it remains in place when the faceplate is up or down.

    ...but that's work for tomorrow! :):thumbsup
     
  40. Judge Spartan

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    Awesome work!!
     
  41. LoveofCountry

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    I'm excited to see this coming along. Puttin' a lot of methodical thinking into the ole' ironpunk man.
     
  42. indiefilmgeek

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    Thanks, LoC and Judge! :):thumbsup

    Did some more modifications today. Most of this surrounded the ear pieces. From the technical drawing sketches, it looks like the circular ear pieces are behind the outer helmet armor but in front of the jaw-line details. Unfortunately, the pep flares the ear pieces out away from the helmet.

    So, to make it closer to my read of the artwork, I cut out two thick plastic circle pieces and glued them to the sides of the helmet as a place-holder. I built up the sides and back of the helmet to overlap those circles. I then built some depth into those circle pieces with the jaw-line area behind those.

    This seems to both match the technical drawing side-view sketches while also matching the look of the finished artwork facing forward.

    Here is a close up of the final ear-piece work...
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    I also filled in the eye holes right before I started fiberglassing. This will help those holes maintain their shape.
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    Here is the helmet ready for it's first outer coat of fiberglass resin....
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    ...and here is what it looks like as it dries tonight.
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    Tomorrow (Monday), I'll take the helmet off the model head, turn it over and fiberglass the inside with scrap material (usually t-shirt or sweat shirt material). Then it will be time to start making it look good again with some serious bondo and sanding! :love

    Hope everyone has a great Memorial Day - and a HUGE 'thank you' to all our men and women who are serving (or have served) in our armed forces! They are the REAL heroes, folks. :cheers
     
  43. madrick

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    Mate, that is looking so good. You're inspiring me to want to try a resin build with something as awesome and unique as this.

    I'm following your progress eagerly!
     
  44. quixote coyote

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    i've been waiting to see something new from you since mikey's iron man suit! this is really an awesome build.
     
  45. Dave Porter

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    This build is looking great!

    Well done.
     
  46. MwNN

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    Good luck on your ambitious and interesting build.
    I'm looking forward to your progress!
    Great idea!
     
  47. Engelnicht

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    This is a great build, and you're off to a great start!
     
  48. indiefilmgeek

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    Thank you very, very much for your encouragement. Tonight was rough and it's easier to push through bad build nights when you've got a community like RPF supporting you!

    I made two attempts to fiberglass the inside of the helmet with fabric as the re-enforcing material. I think the humidity, cheap foam brushes and the non-cotton materials I was using conspired to kill both of my tries. I ended up pulling most of the resin soaked material out of the inside both times. :angry

    I'll get better foam brushes and go back to pure cotton t-shirt material (like I used with Mikey's build) before my next attempt. I'll also plan to go much slower than I did with my Ironman build. I'll try setting the bucket on it's side and just do the lowest inside section. I understand that will take 4x as long as hitting it all in one take, but hopefully with gravity in full cooperation I'll have some better luck. :love

    Again, thanks for the words of encouragement. I'll be back soon with pictures of my progress. :):thumbsup
     
  49. Cayce

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    very awesome. I love the source material and looks like this will be an excellent costume
     
  50. rensole

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    indie dont use foam brushes they tend to mess up when you fiberglass. good explenation of why is up on youtube (the ironman start to finish tutorial thing) i forgot who made it but its a good tutorial theherotutorials or something i believe it was called
     

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