Stealth Series Iron Man (Suit from Cartoon\Comics) WIP

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After lurking for well over a year, having built a few small time cardboard pieces, and idolizing the likes of Robo, XRobots, and all the other amazingly talented builders... I've decided to move on in and make something happen.

I am currently in the process of assembling (see what I did there?) all of the necessary pieces of the puzzle to build my own foam based Iron Man Armour. My goal is to use the Mark VI as a basis for what was always one of my favorite of Tony's suits in the comics- The Stealth series.

I will be utilizing the same Pepakura files that XRobots has with his build, along with his amazing plastic coating technique (I think I might have a bit of hero worship built up, ya think?). The lighting and paint is where I plan to take a bit of artistic license, however.

The entire suit is going to be done in an "Iron Man Red" metallic base coat. This will form the basis for what will basically be a multi-coat tinting project. Utilzing a "Tinted Clear" that most of the "rice burner" kids use to tint their tail lights, I will darken the Red until it is near black in any but bright, direct light. This will then be finished off with a Matte clear coat to give it that "Stealth" look. The exceptions to the tinted red scheme will be the Face Plate, which will receive a "brushed aluminum" style finish, as well as the biceps.

As for lighting and electronics, that's where things are going to get real fun. Sticking with the stealth theme, I will be utilizing duel color LEDs and color strips- Red for when in "stealth mode" and White when inactive- this will be controlled by a twist toggle that I plan to build into the right ear of the helmet that will be connected to the main body of the suit via molex connectors for power.

In the main body of the suit will be all red lighting- the flaps in the back will be set slightly open (with the possibility of if I get really ambitious, I might have them actuated to open and close at random) with shielded red LEDs. The Repulsors will have the duel stage (again, controlled from the ear toggle) LEDs but with a little suprise... I have disassembled a pair of old disposable cameras to harvest their flash mechanisms. These will be integrated into the build up of the Repulsor assembly and will be triggered either by a pressure switch in the top of the gauntlet or thumb- still working the logistics of that one. As this will be an "all day wear" suit, I am also working out a cooling system... most likely to be made up of 120mm PC case fans that could be well concealed in the back plate- anyone with ideas or suggestions, please- share!

The actual power source is going to be a trio of portable cell phone batteries- Energizer and several other companies make them. The three that I have picked are from Energizer and kind of work with my scheme. They will be added as "detail pieces" to the armour (still working out where) as they are already finished in a matte black, and I would like to be able to remove them on the fly to charge (Charge time is approx 45 minutes- with the whole planned electric draw of the system at a little over 350 mAh, the 3 1000mAh batteries should allow for a minimum of 6 hours of continuous use- the flash setup will use it's own contained AA battery sources, as will the arc reactor (which will be a wearable piece all on it's own). If a more affordable 15000mAh battery pack becomes available, this may change to be a completely self contained in the suit unit.

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In other words, the planning is coming along nicely!

If anyone has any words of wisdom, advice, or general critiques on my plans, please- lemme know! I openly admit to being completely green when it comes to costume production- I have a background in automotives and electronics, so those parts will be a breeze... it's all of the attention to detail that this is going to require that is going to do me in... My goal overall is to have this suit 80% by Mid-October for wear to Halloween functions and a few of the local Cons....

Wish me luck!
 
I am sitting on the couch right now with all of my patterns (done on 110lb cardstock), my Xacto Knife, and an accordion folder. Hoping to have all pieces for the helmet cut before I head to bed tonight.

I want to try my hardest to complete at least one limb per week in foam. The plastic-coating will most likely be a longer process as I have worked in body shops most of my life and get entirely too anal about sanding and prep....
 
I've got some ideas for placement of fans within the back and the chest, I'll try to make some drawings on it based on Robo's back and chest pep file. It sounds interesting. I'd really want to try the "all-day wear" concept.
Here in the Philippines, it is very warm to wear for more than a few minutes outdoors, even more so when moving around. Good thing malls where I see cosplayers wearing IM suites have decent AC.
 
As promised, here is what I think is good placement for fans as cooling system. These pics are from Stealth's pep files for the Mk VI. You can see from the placement, these are the portions that don't really touch the back and chest of the wearer due to their depth. I was thinking you could just punch some holes in the portions of the suit where the fans would be placed and just line them with mosquito netting or something similar so that it can still be painted over.
The Mk VII suit pep that I found even has a section that can act as a "cooling tube".
Hope this helps.
 
I like the placement! Once I have the suit together, I'll start looking at locations for the fans, but I think you have it spot on.

UPDATE:

I have received all of my supplies. I found these great camping mats from Meijer for 4.99 on clearance- They aren't the most gorgeous color to start out with (think 1980's turquoise) but once they are coated and ready to for paint, you'll never know the difference! I was also able to pick up a gallon of Elmers undiluted white glue for coating, my plasicoat, and as a special surprise- I was able to pick up a cheap spray gun and air compressor from Harbor Freight... so paint might not be such an issue now!

I have tomorrow off now, so it looks like I might be able to start with assembly, or at the very least, cutting out at least one limb worth of pieces!
 
Great thread. I have always thought that my build would not be complete without a cooling system. I tend to sweat at the drop of a hat, so heat management is a major concern.

*I'm going to call my build "Retro-Iron Man", because I am slow enough to finish about the time they re-make the movies =P*

I am incredibly interested to watch your thread for insight into power system, placement, performance, etc. I also want to learn about the flash system.

I have a few ideas on placement and concealment as well, I'll try to diagram and detail as I can. Is there any existing powered cooling suit? I imagine this has to exist in some military/space/aircraft environment... We should be able to steal ideas from them...
 
Great thread. I have always thought that my build would not be complete without a cooling system. I tend to sweat at the drop of a hat, so heat management is a major concern.

*I'm going to call my build "Retro-Iron Man", because I am slow enough to finish about the time they re-make the movies =P*

I am incredibly interested to watch your thread for insight into power system, placement, performance, etc. I also want to learn about the flash system.

I have a few ideas on placement and concealment as well, I'll try to diagram and detail as I can. Is there any existing powered cooling suit? I imagine this has to exist in some military/space/aircraft environment... We should be able to steal ideas from them...


As far as the power system goes, I actually just ordered a 30,000mAh USB mobile cell phone battery from a local electronics supplier. This battery will be used to power the "Cooling System", while the LED's will be powered off of a single 15,000mAh battery pack I ordered day before last. Both will have USB cords that will be glued into the system and spliced into Molex style connectors for all controls- this means I'll be able to integrate cheap, off the shelf parts from my local computer supply stores such as fan speed controllers, switches, etc.

As for the cooling system itself- the cooling will be handled by 4 120mm computer case fans. The way I'm hoping this will work out is two blowing in located in the chest section adjacent to the divot where the Arc Reactor will sit. This will be off centered blowing exterior air into the suit from the front and will be hidden by color matched fabric that will stretch on the inside of the divot, hidden by the Arc Reactor itself.

In the back where the flaps are located for flight control, will be two more fans blowing out. These will be surface mounted under the flaps blowing out, so as to help draw the hot air off of my back, while hopefully pulling the cool air around my body.

I plan to also find if there is enough space for me to wear a Camelbak type drinking backpack that I can fit with ice packs for both hydration and further cooling!


@Wes R:

This is going to be a heavy adaptation of the 'Movie Style' suits, just with my own personal twist to get away from all of the "Iron (wo)Men)" out there. So far the way it's looking is a heavily modified War Machine helmet, Mark VI Chest Plate, Shoulders, and arms, War Machine Gauntlets\gloves (Heavily Modified with "stealthy" weapons), and the Mark VI Abs, Cod, and Legs with some minor modification to the boots.

Once I get the actual fabrication underway in a satisfactory manor, there will be plenty of pictures. As it sits right now, I have the helm's patterns all cut, and all of my patterns printed out.... just now a matter of getting time away from work and an over-demanding puppy to get things going!
 
I request you include said over-demanding puppy in pictures of your upcoming build.

I did a little research (incredibly easy, google cooling vest) and saw a lot of options. These are some of the quick highlights:

Multiple places has spandex vests that take thermopaks to keep cool, 1 1/2 to 2 1/2 hour Cool Pack lifespan, 4 to 5.5lbs and between $169 to $210

Powered cooling vests and backpack - 4 hour lifespan, 4.4 quart icewater + 12v DC pump, 7 7 lbs of ice.. $250 to $437

My point is that your idea looks like the most logical and cost effective. I'll keep an eye out for cheaper add ons, but I think you (we) are on the right track.
 
As requested- over demanding puppy.... If she keeps this up, she will be getting her own suit....

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My two cents-

Your putting the cart before the horse. Focus on getting your suit done then add bells and whistles. If you are doing a a foam suit as a newb without xrobots plastic sealing and without your fancy paint job, you are looking at 70 hours of cutting and glueing. I did a helmet with Robot's sealing (I am experienced) and it add 5 hours of work sanding and doing coats just for his sealing method. On one part.

I am on my third iron man/ war machine, and I will tell you from wearing them all weekend at a con or halloween, the biggest problem was weight not heat.

If you want to help with cooling, get good under armor and leave vents/slits in the helm, back, and thighs. Slits and cooling fans will keep air moving, heat down, and weight manageable.
 
My two cents-

Your putting the cart before the horse. Focus on getting your suit done then add bells and whistles. If you are doing a a foam suit as a newb without xrobots plastic sealing and without your fancy paint job, you are looking at 70 hours of cutting and glueing. I did a helmet with Robot's sealing (I am experienced) and it add 5 hours of work sanding and doing coats just for his sealing method. On one part.

I am on my third iron man/ war machine, and I will tell you from wearing them all weekend at a con or halloween, the biggest problem was weight not heat.

If you want to help with cooling, get good under armor and leave vents/slits in the helm, back, and thighs. Slits and cooling fans will keep air moving, heat down, and weight manageable.

I do appreciate the sentiment, but I'm worried that if I build the suit and then mod later, it'll be more of a headache than it would be to properly plan for it. As it stands right now, I'm well on my way to having the helmet ready for plastic seal- and this will be the deciding factor on if I do the rest of the pieces in the same method.

I am experienced with fabrication and the such, as professionally I am an auto-body mechanic that works primarily with custom cars (Tuners, Muscle, Rods, etc.)- so I do understand what I've gotten myself into. Kind of. lol

I mean honestly, doesn't it make more sense to anticipate the needs of the suit versus reacting to them as they become an inconvenience? As I've stated, I am a bit of a newbie as it comes to this concept- but the overly logical side of me says plan, plan, plan, plan again, build a little, plan more, build a little...
 
I'd hate to be 70+ hours into a build, and say "dang, if only I would have used 1/2 inch foam on this peice here, I would have had room for the fan assembly"... But, I admit all i have accomplished so far is test pieces, and spent a long time on just sizing the cod. (that is not a euphamism.)

Cute puppy!

New thought: if there is a way to cut out vents in the under armor suit as well, then that might help. Im thinking the places where the suit will cover, so no skin shows through. Do you think foam on skin should be avoided?

Lastly, had not thought about weight much... can you give me more details? whay kind of weight are your finished suits? What is your reccomended wear time?
 
I plan to also find if there is enough space for me to wear a Camelbak type drinking backpack that I can fit with ice packs for both hydration and further cooling!
I was fooling around with a friend and we talked about something like this, adding a small submersible pump, the kind to circulate the water through tubes placed around the suit. Don't really know if it'd be doable. Just a thought.
 
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I do appreciate the sentiment, but I'm worried that if I build the suit and then mod later, it'll be more of a headache than it would be to properly plan for it. As it stands right now, I'm well on my way to having the helmet ready for plastic seal- and this will be the deciding factor on if I do the rest of the pieces in the same method.

I am experienced with fabrication and the such, as professionally I am an auto-body mechanic that works primarily with custom cars (Tuners, Muscle, Rods, etc.)- so I do understand what I've gotten myself into. Kind of. lol

I mean honestly, doesn't it make more sense to anticipate the needs of the suit versus reacting to them as they become an inconvenience? As I've stated, I am a bit of a newbie as it comes to this concept- but the overly logical side of me says plan, plan, plan, plan again, build a little, plan more, build a little...


Alright, well its on you to prove me wrong. The more ambitious the first build, the less likely it is to be finished from what I have seen. Maybe you can the the exception.

The board is littered with "plans" far less finished builds and even less that push the technology in the suits.
 
I hope to be the exception to the rule! And someone calling me out is actually that little bit of motivation that is needed to really put the pedal to the metal with this.
 
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