Starship project

Discussion in 'Studio Scale Models' started by REL, Jan 16, 2006.

  1. REL

    REL Sr Member

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    I thought all of you would like to take a look at the project I'm working on. I had to start over on it once because I didn't get the details right, as I'm making the Nemesis version and there's not a lot of info on it.

    But through begging and pleading. I was able to secure some nice plans for it. She'll be 40" when done, 1/650 scale.

    Thanks for looking.

    http://sovereignreplicas.com

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  2. RedTwoX

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    That's a very nice start. I always love seeing the WIP pics. Thansk for sharing. Keep us updated as the project pogresses.
     
  3. Studio Stasis

    Studio Stasis Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Wow. That thing is fantastic. If any castings come from it, surely let me know. I am impressed. I have a 41 inch Excelsior model that I was trying to restore and rebuild the secondary hull but I have done a poor job. You are a much better modeller than I am.

    Josh
     
  4. falcondesigns

    falcondesigns Well-Known Member

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    Outstanding work,please keep posting your progress.Its a great tutorial.
     
  5. REL

    REL Sr Member

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    Thank you. I will be making a kit from it as I want to light it etc. I post my progress daily, so you can keep checking the site for updates.


    Richard
     
  6. phase pistol

    phase pistol Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Looking good so far. :D

    - k
     
  7. RedTwoX

    RedTwoX Sr Member

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    I was going to ask about that, but I was at work when I posted and had to keep it short :$
     
  8. yt

    yt Sr Member

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    That is awesome. Please keep us updated.
     
  9. KrokoHunter

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    Looks very nice.

    If I were to do a bigscale ST ship it would be either the Ent E or Voyager. I really like the long slender designs.

    Looking forward to more WIP shots

    Cheers
    Niels
     
  10. TheRealMcFly

    TheRealMcFly Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Where can you aquire a 41" excelsior?

    EDIT: I'm sorry, thats the lunar models kit correct?

    EDIT: That E E is incredible.
     
  11. REL

    REL Sr Member

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    Thank you everyone.

    Here's the latest picture. I got the impulse engines on.

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  12. Master Propmaker

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    That looks fantastic. Are you going to add lights?
     
  13. REL

    REL Sr Member

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    Well the kit will be able to have lights, this is the master.

    Here's the latest.

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  14. Ghadrack

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    Coming along Beautimously, I can't wait to see the finished product :)
     
  15. REL

    REL Sr Member

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    Thank you for the kind words.

    I'm starting on the secondary hull now.

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  16. steveo

    steveo Sr Member

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    Looks great - just curious if you are going to do a how-to also to go along with the pics. I would love to try making models, but have no clue how to do it. I see the start of things in your pics, and the progress and final, but have no idea how you got there. For example, how do you get the curved edges and stuff? Do you fill your initial forms with auto putty or something? Would love to read a tutorial on this stuff if anyone has some advice.

    Steveo
     
  17. Johda

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    heres a question......projected kit cost of this baby?
    BTW....amazing work.........

     
  18. REL

    REL Sr Member

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    I use an expanding A/B mixed poly foam that I get here
    http://burmanfoam.com/

    It's not the "foam in a can" you use for insulation, it's the professional grade stuff.

    After the foam sets up I sculpt it to the ribs, then cover it with epoxy to form a hard shell, then use bondo to fill in any imperfections.
     
  19. cobywan

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    I gotta say that's some of the best work I've seen in ages. Looks really nice.

    If you cast with a "hot" resin it could shrink down to a nice standard scale of 1/700th. :)
     
  20. REL

    REL Sr Member

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    Thanks.

    Yeah I should've thought more about the scale before I started this. I didn't really consider the scale, I designed it at the size I wanted, which worked out to be that scale. But it's too late to change it now.
     
  21. BlindSquirrel

    BlindSquirrel Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    I am totally knocked out at your craftsmanship.. :eek That is one beautiful build.

    If you could indulge a few questions:

    Any chance you could post some pictures of the foam technique? I'm really blown away at the results.

    What are you using for the ribs?...it looks transluscent.

    I checked out Burman Foam but couldn't figure out which products you used for the foam and hard coat.

    Thanks for sharing. I look forward to seeing your progress.
     
  22. REL

    REL Sr Member

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    Thank you. I'd be happy to put together a tutorial of sorts when I'm finished with the whole thing.

    I'm using acrylic for the ribs, the foam I'm using is a 2.5lb poly foam, (SKU# 300-21Q on Burmanfoam)you can get harder foams for different applications.

    The 2.5lb is the best for sculpting, especially if you're going to skin it. For mothermolds or stand alone props you can use a 4 or 6lb foam. To create the hard shell I use fiberglass epoxy.



    I started sculpting the secondary hull.

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  23. REL

    REL Sr Member

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    Here's a few pics of the foam process on the saucer.

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  24. tobiasrichter

    tobiasrichter Well-Known Member

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    That's looking really great. Thanks for the insight. I am so looking forward to this kit...

    Tobias
     
  25. BlindSquirrel

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    Thanks so much for the foam process photos...it's nice to know what to expect.

    I don't mean to be a pest BUT can you tell us a bit about working with the acrylic (workablility, cutting, gluing, etc)? I've only had experience with styrene...is it similar? Is one better than the other? Cheaper?
     
  26. REL

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    Acrylic sheets (plexiglass) is very different from working with styrene. You can't cut it by hand, you need a bandsaw, tablesaw or you can have it laser cut. It doesn't sand very well, and you have to use a special acrylic bonder to glue it together. But it's great for applications like this since it's completely straight and flat, so you can get perfect symmetry with your piece.
     
  27. star-art

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    I'd add that acrylic is AWESOME for scratchbuilding as long as you don't have to work it by hand at all. It's simply too hard to work with most hand tools. But if you can draw your patterns and have the parts lasercut, it is simply marvelous stuff. It glues so strong you might bust the plastic before the joint will give. (This is why ILM used it to build the core structures of all the Star Wars and Galactica studio models.) It's brittle in a sense in that it likes to split at corners so you should avoid notches in your parts. But, other than that, it's mighty strong stuff. (If you need even tougher, use polycarbonate -- but that can't be lasercut very well.)

    It does sand well, but only with a power sander. I have a stationary belt/disc sander (about $60 if you get a good deal) that works wonderfully.
     
  28. REDCANINE

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    Simply beautiful man. I can' wait to see more progression pics. You starship modelers never cease to amaze me. :)
     
  29. REL

    REL Sr Member

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    Thank you. Here's a photo of the first dry fit.

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  30. BlindSquirrel

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    Wow..

    Is "bonerific" a word? If it is, I think it applies to your beautiful ship.

    I think I need to be alone now... :p
     
  31. masterjedi322

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    Wow, man...just wow. It's like, wow, ya know...wow... :)

    Great work.

    Sean
     
  32. Roger Ramjet

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  33. RickDTM

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    Aww * that's cool....
     
  34. REL

    REL Sr Member

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    Thanks.

    I'm making progress on the secondary hull.

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  35. REL

    REL Sr Member

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    I added a coat of Mr.Surfacer to the saucer today.

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  36. BlindSquirrel

    BlindSquirrel Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    I take it that Mr Surfacer is primer?
     
  37. REL

    REL Sr Member

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    It looks like primer, but it's actually putty that you can thin down and spray through an airbrush. No matter how thick you put it on it will dry nice and smooth without obliterating the detail.
     
  38. KUROK

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    That's a fantastic model REL. Really nice.
    I take it the scale is 1/1000?
     
  39. cobywan

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    The scale is in the first post.

    1/675 or something like that.
     
  40. Bantha Crossing

    Bantha Crossing Well-Known Member

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    That is really fantastic work your doing. IÂ’m enjoying watching this thread and seeing your progress. Keep it coming. :D
     
  41. Rocketeer390

    Rocketeer390 Well-Known Member

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    That's a beautiful master so far. Great craftsmanship.
    You sir, are a steely-eyed missle man.
     
  42. Tripper

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    Amazing work.. Looking forward to more progress pics of the secondary hull.
     
  43. REL

    REL Sr Member

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    Thank you very much. I'm starting to shape the area around the main deflector.


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  44. REL

    REL Sr Member

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    Still working on the deflector.

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  45. nwjedidave

    nwjedidave Sr Member

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    oh, excuse me...

    i seem to be drooling all over the place....

    REL -- when it comes to all the small details (windows and such) are you going to carve in each one?


    NWJEDI
    dave
     
  46. cobywan

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    I like the technique of placing tape windows and encasing the model in automotive primer surfacer. Sand off the finish to the top of the tape and remove.

    Recessed windows.
     
  47. REL

    REL Sr Member

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    Yes, that's what I'm going to do. I'll got to a sign shop and have vinyl templates made.

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  48. Watson

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    Rel that is really impressive. I cannot wait to see this thing finished. Can't wait to do a build up review when I get mine :p

    Greg
     
  49. Boba Flint

    Boba Flint Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    This is the first time I've looked at this thread.

    I've been missing some great work here.
     
  50. REL

    REL Sr Member

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    An update on the secondary hull.

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