Star Wars Resistance new animated series...

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  1. Bryancd

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  2. Nitz146

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    Created by Dave Filoni. I think I'll give it a go.
     
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    I’m a Dave fanboy. It’s curious how he has slowly become more widely accepted in fandom. People were very critical of him and The Clone Wars the first two seasons of that show. I’m glad people recognize the quality of his story telling.
     
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    If anyone can give those character actual stories...it's him
     
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    The premise has a Rogue Squadron vibe.
     
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    I think this is cool. I also think they should just make a freaking Rogue Squadron series set during the OT era.

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    especially excited about the apparent "anime-inspired style" it'll feature, i don't necessarily mind the cartoon-y cgi look of Clone Wars and Rebels, but a change in aesthetics would be nice.
     
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  8. Reelo

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    I dig the apparent color palette a lot!
    Also: PILOTS!

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  9. Dessa

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    Thought 1: YAY, BB-8!!

    Thought 2: YAY, Disney Channel, so I can watch it legally this time!
     
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    The ship in the logo reminds me a lot of an E-wing.
     
  11. cboath

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    Phasma's dead, so, this is sequel prequel?

    Would rather they address the 30 year game than the tiny bit before TFA or between TFA/TLJ
     
  12. jhazard

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    No Jedi, no Force, even mentioned?

    I loved Rebels and Clone Wars,

    I'll give it a chance because DF is involved, but sort of disappointed at the same time.

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  13. Bryancd

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    Pre- TFA.
     
  14. Sluis Van Shipyards

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    Noooooo way. Not even with Dave Filoni and crew. I loved TCW and Rebels, but have zero interest in anything post ROTJ... now.
     
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    I won't judge it yet, but if it's another happy go lucky happy fun time show like most of Rebels was, I probably won't bother getting into it. I don't want another show that gets progressively more serious. Filoni did that with both TCW and Rebels. The stories only got better once the show was halfway out the door. After the last few seasons of TCW, I expected Rebels to start out strong. It didn't. It followed the same storytelling format at TCW, with silly, simple stories in the beginning and serious, complex stories at the end. For TCW I assumed it was because Filoni was new. After Rebels, I recognized the pattern. I'm not going through another 4 years of SW TV where 3/4 of the episodes involve silly, affable plotlines and a lack of imminent danger of any kind. It's just a waste of my time. But, that's Disney Wars these days. As I saw somebody put it on Facebook, "The days of seeing someone's head being chopped off, necks being snapped, and someone being blown up, all casual like are long gone." We're not going to get the good old dark days of TCW back.
     
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  16. seelsa73

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    Based on what little we know so far, I have zero interest. But it's Filoni, so I'll check it out
     
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    Beat me to it again!!


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    I am wondering if the BB8 we see is the animation style?

    It’s a very Zelda: windwaker feel, I like it


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  19. Reelo

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    Yep. If it looks anything like Legend of Korra, that would work as well.

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    So this takes place before TFA... maybe we will see a little more of Luke?


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    They'll bait us with Luke, but I wouldnt hold my breath for any storylines involving him.

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    I was kind of hoping it'd be closer to ROTJ than TFA, or that the series would serve to really kind of fill in the gaps between the two trilogies the way TCW filled in the gap between AOTC and ROTS, and the way Rebels fills in the gaps (some of them) between ROTS and ANH. Maybe they will but if the Resistance is already formed, it makes me wonder.

    I think you have to kind of expect the format. There's a design behind it.

    These are shows on Disney XD, which means they're targeted towards a particular age demographic. That demographic group never changes, but the people who fit within it grow older as the show airs. So, a shot starts off kind of light and fun, to draw in younger kids, and then gradually gets darker and more serious on the theory that the audience is aging along with the program. That's my theory, anyway, as to why the format seems to repeat itself.

    You're viewing it from the perspective of someone who has (arguably) already "aged out" of the demographic, but who can still appreciate the shows, rather than someone within the target demographic who, at age 8 or 9 might be turned off by the "sad" or "scary" tone of the show in its later years, but finds the fun stuff accessible to start.

    I'm also not saying that younger kids can't appreciate the kind of stuff you want to see, but rather that I think the Disney XD folks want to hit a sweet spot with their target market, and are less worried about everyone else. Like, they ain't writing for the AV Club review site viewers. They're writing for the kids who will buy the Lego sets and the action figures (and actually play with them instead of "collect" them).
     
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  23. CT1138

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    Back in my day Star Wars was for every demographic. :darnkids
     
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    It still is! It's just targeted at a younger demographic. Or at least this show is. General release movies are a bit different.
     
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  25. Inquisitor Peregrinus

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    I feel like this is the show they should have done instead of Rebels, and then maybe done Rebels now. The novel Bloodline takes place roughly five years before TFA. From how things are in it, it seems like the "happily ever after" of ROTJ is still largely intact. Luke is still around, Ben is still training with him, Han and Leia are more together than not, Leia's still a senator, and the First Order has yet to go public. It's toward the end of the book that everything starts to go wrong. Leia's true paternity is revealed, so no one takes her seriously when she warns about the First Order, and so she quits and forms the Resistance.

    Even with things like Shattered Empire, the Aftermath trilogy, and Inferno Squad's storyline in BF2, there's still so much yet to be revealed from that quarter-century span, but whatever happens in there, it doesn't seem to permanently affect Our Heroes or the larger galactic setting. So this series, picking up as Leia's forming the Resistance and trying to learn more about the First Order, is perfect for setting up the ST and actually potentially answering all those questions TFA didn't address at all. No the First Order isn't the Empire. So what are they instead? No Snoke isn't Sith. So what is he instead? How did Ben find out about the Vader-Leia revelation and what was his reaction? At what point exactly did he actually turn and become Kylo? How long after did Luke walk away? There was a lot of needed context that should have set up TFA. If it had started somewhere within the narrative of Bloodline, (with the ending of ROTJ still largely intact), it would have worked better as a transition piece from the OT.

    But it didn't, and hopefully this series will.

    I am also still hopeful that there will be another animated or live-action series forthcoming earlier in that quarter-century desert. Rebels, Shattered Empire, Aftermath: Empire's End, and BF2 set things up and tease too well to just leave it for books and comics to fill in. Hera, Jacen, Sabine, Palpatine's Observatories, the founding of Luke's academy, etc. Something that picks up about 8-10 years in. Jacen would be a teenager (and possibly one of Luke's students, possibly also one that goes with Ben and becomes a Knight of Ren), Rey's born 11 years into this period, and I still don't believe her parents were "nobodies", let alone broke scavengers -- that's just what she believes after being forced to confront her abandonment. I don't want her to be a Skywalker.. Maybe distantly a Kenobi... And I know the argument about everything in Star Wars being connected a little too closely (thank you Prequels), but I want her parents to have been involved in the struggle in some way, and hid her on Jakku for her protection, fully intending to come back for her, but prevented.

    So we'll have to just see. About Resistance, about Jon Favreau's live-action series, about standalone films, about another animated series in another 6 years or so, about whether they do more numbered episodes past IX... *sigh* I do still strongly feel lit's a misstep, first on George's part, now on LFL's in honoring his bad judgment, to have the numbered films be "the Skywalker Saga" instead of "the Star Wars Saga", of which The Adventures of Luke Skywalker was only a part. Rogue One and Solo fit in the numbered sequence. A Kenobi film would, too. I wish they'd heed their most recent film's advice and uncouple themselves from that notion that the numbered Saga is the Skywalker story. Let the past die -- kill it if you have to. IMO, slavish devotion to the Word of George does more harm to Star Wars than good, long-term. He's a gloriously rich idea mine, but he can't write. LFL has already shown they'll honor his wishes except where they don't. This should be one of those departures...

    --Jonah
     
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  26. niennumb1

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    I've only seen most of the first season of Rebels. I would like to see the rest of the seasons, but I haven't ever felt a sense of "MUST-SEE" even as the huge Star Wars fan I am.

    When I heard about this new series I really don't feel all that excited about it either. Rebels seems to be great overall, but just doesn't attract me to watching as much as the films do.

    Seems to me that they should be recruiting Filoni to make episodic films rather than the short-form series. He seems to know what the heck he's doing....
     
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  27. Solo4114

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    I actually think he's better on TV. The format let's him tell more expansive stories that build characters gradually, which is what makes the shows enjoyable to me. Trying to compress that into 2-2.5 hrs is actually pretty difficult.

    These days I find 10-16 hour long episodes of TV to feel the best as far as how expansive the show ought to be. Shorter than that and a story feels under developed. More than that, and they end up with filler.

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  28. Mara Jade's Father

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    I love the aviation/flight focus. Automatic win for me.

    I'm not a big fan of anime. I don't hate it just felt I had my fill in the 80's. However I am not one to not watch a Star Wars series because of the animation style. A good Star Wars story can be told in any style and so far I have loved all the shows.

    I also like prefer OT over SEQ but since TFA, I have had so many questions about the formation of both the resistance and first order that I hope they fill in the blanks the same way that Clone Wars and Rebels did and in turn made the movies even stronger.
     
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  32. SawbonesAdmiral

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    I'm loving the new ships, especially the sports car looking one:

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    Very THX 1138 looking

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    Oh boy...when they said "anime inspired," I was expecting Avatar: The Last Airbender, not that crappy Iron Man: Armored Adventures atrocity. I can't stand this animation style. It looks cheap.

    The main character Kaz is annoying the snot out of me already. Ezra 2.0 :rolleyes

    Why do all of the animated characters have to wear such bright colors? You don't ever see people in bright orange or green in the live action movies...This trailer makes it look even more kiddy than Rebels was.

    As for the ships, I'm confused as to why the Resistance is using all new, completely custom ships for these young pilots. As we already know, the Resistance was formed because the New Republic was more concerned with disarming the military and reinstating peace that they refused to acknowledge the First Order as a viable threat. Leia and co split off to form the Resistance, which gets its fleet from sympathizers within the New Republic willing to lend X-wings and the like for combat, hence why the Resistance fleet is so small and made up of a handful of ship types. Why these new 'heroes' all get their own 100% custom ships instead of a standard T-70 X-wing (with maybe some custom paint) is ridiculous. Hell, even Poe Dameron, the biggest and most well known 'hero' in this series flies a standard T-70 X-wing with a custom paint job and a few minor modifications. The Resistance doesn't have the kind of funding to be creating one-of-a-kind ships for their pilots - these guys should be in X-wings! It makes Star Wars feel less lived in when everyone has their own one-of-a-kind ship.

    Even in the Clone Wars, clones pilots all flew slightly different or just plain versions of the ships that are manufactured for combat. All of the gunships were exactly the same, except some pilots painted some awesome nose art to make them their own.
     
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    Because the ships in the trailer aren't used by the Resistance, they're used by what we can assume to be civilian pilots, and they're piloting the Star Wars equivalent of customized cars for street (sky) racing.

    The show is set on a space station where "dangerous races" take place. The main character is a spy sent on a mission to the station to figure out and identify potential allies and enemies, and according to this synopsis he is drawn into joining the races themselves.
     
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  36. Thain

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    Well if they're civilian racers than that makes a lot more sense. I'm still curious about this "space station" Colossus, as the trailer shows it being a floating structure in the middle of an ocean...unless that's not Colossus.
     
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    Multiple sources have verified that the station in the trailer is Colossus. "Space station" is a mistranslation from the original German post and I should've been more clear, sorry.
     
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    I'm still curious how they're planning on making a seasoned show out of this synopsis. This sounds more like a synopsis for a pilot than the show.

    This trailer just hasn't hooked me. At least the Rebels trailer and pilot, for all my complaining about it, DID manage to pique my interest and get me to watch the show. This pilot makes this show look like a very easy pass. My interest has gone from cautionary to none.
     
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    Think this screen shot pretty much sums up what this show is going to be.
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    B-but! Don't worry...the 29k thumbs down are just "a loud, vocal minority." :lol
     
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  41. gedmac66

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    Is it just me or does the trailer kinda resemble The Fast & Furious - set in a Star Wars ‘ Galaxy ‘ !?

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    Starship racing is gonna be prominent since Colossus station is known for it, and the main character is undercover as a mechanic, so yes, the Fast & Furious comparison is apt.
     
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    I mean, part of me wants to like it because it is Star Wars, but the rational part of me has no interest in this at all.

    I was unsure about Rebels, because it introduced brand new characters I had no connection with, and it eventually turned out to be pretty good. Hopefully Resistance will be the same, but I could think of other ST era stories I'd like better. Like I want to know more about Lor San Tekka and his adventures with Luke Skywalker. Seemed like a waste to cast an actor with the caliber of Max Von Sydow, only to kill him off and never go back to his story. I know they covered a bit more about him in the comics.

    Give us OT characters, pre TFA, because that's what a lot of fans want to see. Not new random characters with an occasional appearance by an ST trilogy character.

    Rebels may have been a fluke, and succeeded because it brought Thrawn back in to canon, noghri back into canon, had OT characters the Leia, Tarkin, Lando, and TCW favorite Hondo Onaka, as well as Ahsoka, Maul, more Mandalorians, and so on. It connected the viewer to classic characters we know and love. If Resistance can't follow suit, along with having it's new characters become just as beloved as Phoenix Squad, then it won't last.

    Also, not really digging the animation.
     
  44. SawbonesAdmiral

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    I feel like Star Wars should eventually move away from the OT, honestly.

    I wanna see more stories in the ST era without much of the OT or PT hanging around it, though I would admit seeing Kix (who is still alive at this point) would be nice. If there's one thing I can say I disliked about the Legends canon post-ROTJ is that quite a few of them either revolved around a Skywalker or a Solo, and the axing of all of that meant there was a chance to see new characters have their own stories only being tangentially related to the grander narrative of the movies, making the galaxy feel like, well, a galaxy.

    Rebels ended without entering the OT timeframe and that was a good call by Filoni. As for me, I'll adopt a "wait and see" approach with Resistance. I like the designs, the fact that it's vibrant with color, and the racing theme.
     
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    If they move away from the OT, I'd prefer the Old Republic era. Jedi, Sith, troopers, war, intrigue, political deception, that's what made the OT great, and if they could recapture that feeling in a different era, that doesn't connect to the OT in any way at all, that would be good. No Skywalker line to deal with.

    I also think Rogue One was great because it was OT era, without OT characters. I'd love more of that, like Battlefront: Twilight Company. Sure, Solo made an appearance in that book, but he wasn't a big part, nor was he outright named as Han Solo.

    Rebels ended just prior to the OT, except for the epilogue, which was just after ROTJ, canonized Rex on Endor (no more Nic "Gramps" Sant), among other things.

    I'm also taking a wait and see approach. The racing theme does not hold any appeal for me, though.
     
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    The FF comparisons bother me.

    There have been a few FF copy movies - which failed.
    Magnum PI seems to being rebooted into FF:Hawaii

    Now, FF:SW? I sure as hell hope not.
     
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    To me the ships and backgrounds looked anime but the characters looked like Saturday Morning Cartoons. (Ignore the fact that nobody really does Saturday Morning Cartoons anymore except for Cartoon Network.) Nobody had the freaky gravity defying anime hair.

    I think this has potential as long as it is not just an extended version of pod racing from the first prequel. To be honest, I watched Rebels but I wouldn't have cared if any of the characters got killed off except for the cameo characters from Clone Wars.
     
  48. niennumb1

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    The title very much sums up what I will be doing... Resistance from watching it.

    It's very centered toward kids. And that's fine, but they made a big to do about this trailer as if it was going to have a mass audience appeal and I don't see that in this video.
     
  49. Mr Webber

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    10pm on a Sunday night during a school period? Are Disney actually trolling kids now as well or have they completely lost all sense of business when it comes to Star Wars?
     
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    :sick just....:sick
     

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