Star Wars complete saga - which version?

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  1. Guri

    Guri Sr Member

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    Not to bring THIS up again, but...

    My son's best friend has never seen Star Wars and really wants to - so for my son's 14th birthday they are looking to have a marathon. The copies we bought years and years ago are scratched and unwatchable and since we aren't forking out a bunch for a big party, I thought I'd buy new copies and would like to stay under $150.

    Thing is - it's this Saturday, so I have to order in today or tomorrow...


    SO, my question: Does anyone know where I can find or want to give me a quick run down of the edits in the currently available for purchase blu-ray and DVD's and the pros and cons?

    I could do a search, but we've got virtual school all day and then diving and I'd just like the opinions of my trusted friends here at RPF.... :)

    Here's what I found on Amazon

    If I don't hear something convincing to the contrary, I'll probably just get the blu-ray. Thanks everyone!
     
  2. Treadwell

    Treadwell Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    The Blu would be the easiest way to go. The 2004 DVD had stupid changes beyond even the 1997 Special Edition (this is when Hayden showed up at the end of ROTJ), and the Blu brought us more, but your son and his friend are not going to notice or care.
     
  3. Solo4114

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    Actually, check out the Blu Ray page itself. If you scroll down, there's a chart that lays out all the differences between the various packages that may help with deciding. Although it looks like the 2006 DVDs (with the "bonus disc" LD rips) aren't available anymore. There are, of course, "other sources" for those, and there are the fan edits too, but I think it depends on which version(s) you want to watch.

    The "bonus disc" versions appear to be selling for $50 a piece on Amazon, which is INSANE, but probably has more to do with the fact that there is literally no other legitimate source for the OOT out there.

    You could also try ebay.

    My sense is that the blu-ray is probably your easiest bet and gets you the most bang for your buck, even if it doesn't come with the "OOT" option and has additional incremental changes which...have been thoroughly discussed on this board and elsewhere.


    Good luck!
     
  4. aeonpulse

    aeonpulse Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    I'm not entirely sure if they're still available, but back in 2005 I picked up all three of the originals on DVD, the sets I got included both the Special Editions and the original Theatrical Editions. I love having the unaltered originals on DVD, mind you the quality wasn't very good, but I didn't really care all that much.

    If you're looking to have them view the originals, that would be your best bet. I've heard the sets I'm talking about are a bit hard to find these days, so I would check out eBay.
     
  5. Chrisisall

    Chrisisall Sr Member

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    Keep it simple IMO- just get the BR.
     
  6. Guri

    Guri Sr Member

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    Thanks for the input! I am leaning toward the blu-ray... the price is decent. We are now making up a menu for the marathon. *hehehe*
     
  7. Chrisisall

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    Just remember to *blink* before Greedo shoots first, and it'll all be good!:lol
     
  8. Guri

    Guri Sr Member

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    Yeah, right? Haha!

    Not sure how much I'll be watching with them. I can't afford to give up that many hours on a weekend - too much weeding and cleaning and stuff. More since I'm not going to be making my son help! :p
     
  9. Chrisisall

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    Jedi's don't weed- they attack!
     
  10. Michael Bergeron

    Michael Bergeron Legendary Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    My only thought is that Uncle George is on the record saying that kids will only know the modified films. Personally I try to fight that although you may not care. :)

    There are a few alternatives to the BluRay, even one HD option if you have a digital media player. Your best bet would be to find the double disc DVD's with the original cuts though. This is the set you're looking for:

    http://www.amazon.ca/Star-Wars-Epis...=sr_1_19?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1334111509&sr=1-19

    Only sold individually though.

    As I said, you probably don't care but this is the last set that will have the original cut of the films. It's glorious, my favourite discs in my collection.
     
  11. Chrisisall

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    Yeah, the 'Han shoots first' is classic, and the omission of the redundant Jabba scene is welcome, but all else in the movies re-workings plays pretty well IMO.
    Mileage, of course, varies.
     
  12. Michael Bergeron

    Michael Bergeron Legendary Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Hands down the worst offense is the re-write of the Vader/Emperor chat in ESB. Makes Vader look like a total clueless tool. Jabba scene is second worst in my opinion.

    The special editions just make the OT less interesting IMHO. Anyhow, I'm sure Guri doesn't want the rant. ;)
     
  13. micdavis

    micdavis Master Member

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    You pay the postage, I'll GIVE you all six of my DVDs and a couple bonus discs.

    Just PM me and we'll work it out.

    But the BluRays are gorgeous if you don't over analyze them. First timers will never even blink.
     
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  14. cayman shen

    cayman shen Master Member

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    You should try the "Machete order": 1,2,4,5,3,6
     
  15. Solo4114

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  16. giric thren

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    I dont think they will notice, or hate anything about them if its their first viewing.

    Take me, I am 26 and my first time seeing the OT was in the theaters in 1997 for the Special Editions. Do I hate Greedo shooting first? No, it really doesnt bother me because that was what I knew from the beginning.

    When I watch the OT (before BR) I watched the OOT, not because it was the "true" edition, no, it was because it was different, and I had it. I love both the OOT, and the SE.

    I think that anyone who is shown the SE's first will probably like them. I did.


    Thomas
     
  17. Too Much Garlic

    Too Much Garlic Master Member

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    The 2006 theatrical versions on DVD - shun all others.
     
  18. Guri

    Guri Sr Member

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    That's a wonderful offer... thank you so much. PM in progress..
     
  19. micdavis

    micdavis Master Member

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    You will be receiving the first release DVD of each of films. Genuine, well cared for DVD.

    (plus a surprise)

    Enjoy.
     
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  20. Chrisisall

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    The generosity of some fans warms my positronic matrix!:thumbsup
     
  21. BoozeBeGood

    BoozeBeGood Sr Member

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    Mic is pretty awesome! :):thumbsup
     
  22. Guri

    Guri Sr Member

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    Soooo cool of you. I'm pretty blown away, and as I said, my son is pretty astonished... knowing it's a gift from a Star Wars Fan from a website forum on costuming and props, that doesn't even know him, is making it more special than just mom going on Amazon and buying it. :)


    Absolutely agree. :love
     
  23. Michael Bergeron

    Michael Bergeron Legendary Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    My cold heart = Warmed.

    :D :thumbsup
     
  24. NintendoLiam

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    What lovely people are on these fourms!
    truley heart warming ^^
     
  25. micdavis

    micdavis Master Member

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    Aw shuck ma'am, 'twernt nothin'.

    But realistically. With the Blu-rays and my rips of the Laserdiscs I don't really need or will probably ever watch those again.

    All you really can do is give them away. Eventually media gets replaced. Fact of video life. Accept it or go mad.

    Heck, I've got 353 Laserdiscs and 110 reels of 16mm film I will GIVE to whoever will come get them.
     
  26. Chrisisall

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    *Riggs voice*
    You shouldn't tempt me, man....

    :lol
     
  27. Michael Bergeron

    Michael Bergeron Legendary Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    If I wasn't on the other side of the continent I'd come grab that 16mm!!! :lol
     
  28. micdavis

    micdavis Master Member

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    Aren't you taking that job in Vancouver. Short drive from there (1200 miles).
     
  29. Michael Bergeron

    Michael Bergeron Legendary Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Believe it or not STILL in negotiations. When I lived there I used to drive down the coast all the time so if it works out I'll make a trip. :)
     
  30. Guri

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    MicDavis, Hey! We're already stocking up on the marathon goodies for next weekend, but my son couldn't wait and we watched The Clone Wars tonight just as a family for his actual b-day. I'll be sure to take some photos of the guys during the party!

    He made this up for you... :)

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  31. Chrisisall

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    (y)cool:lol
     
  32. micdavis

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    You are all very welcome.

    Glad they made it in time. I thought the party was today.

    That's a nice Star destroyer image. Great job.

    Enjoy and never call it A New Hope......It's STAR WARS.
     
  33. Guri

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    The marathon has begun... They started with Empire Strikes Back because they have all watched Star Wars. Already they are debating the firepower of the ships.

    Very fun... just ate 'Pizza the Hutt'. :D
     
  34. Chrisisall

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    Oh, like you could ever see the first movie too many times...:lol
     
  35. Guri

    Guri Sr Member

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    True, but they only have so many hours to get this done...

    The boy who hasn't seen it before jumped and yelled at the myonk in the asteroid and when Han Solo shoots the 'ground' and they all start moving he was all, 'come on, that was one shot, like it would do that much damage to that big of an asteroid!" And then, when he saw it was a creature he was all 'WHOA!"

    This is so fun... fresh eyes and reactions are awesome.
     
  36. Chrisisall

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    Too bad I can't be there! But reading this is great!

    Now I wanna watch them again myself...
     
  37. Guri

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    Yeah, it's great fun... when Yoda first came on they were all cracking up at how he was acting with Luke. I loved hearing the laughter, I had forgotten how funny that bit was.
     
  38. Guri

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    Some pictures for you Mic!

    The pathetic UTAT cake... Why he wanted that instead of the cool Jabba scene I wanted to do, I don't know. I did my best!
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    Chocolate dipped pretzels as 'light sabers' and Han Solo in carbonite chocolates.

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    And the boys - faces obscured for privacy. :D

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    The one with the dark hair is the one who hasn't seen them at all, the one at the far end has only seen them once, but never saw eps 2 and 3.

    The other one is my son who has seen them all a hundred times...
     
  39. Chrisisall

    Chrisisall Sr Member

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    Awesom! Thanks!:cool
     
  40. Guri

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    After Luke found out Leia was his sister, kid who hasn't seen it before says, "That's going to complicate relationships..."

    haha!
     
  41. Chrisisall

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    Now THAT'S pretty funny!:lol
     
  42. Guri

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    They got through two tonight and now it's time for bed... I'm having as much fun as they are! Now to see if/when they fall asleep!!
     
  43. Chrisisall

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    What? No sneak downstairs to watch another after YOU go to sleep???
     
  44. Michael Bergeron

    Michael Bergeron Legendary Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    This thread just got a whole lot more awesome. :D

    Fresh eyes are ALWAYS great to witness!
     
  45. Guri

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    They slept in the island room (our entertainment room) and were pretty tired so only stayed up for 1/2 an hour after we left them.

    They woke at 7:45 and started back up at 8:30...

    When they were leaving Naboo and the ship was fixed new kid says, "I bet that's R2!!" *hehe*
     
  46. micdavis

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    Got my pics, we're even. :lol

    Nothing like the Saga with people that know how to enjoy a movie.

    Glad they are enjoying it.
     
  47. Guri

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    Yeah, they are enjoying most of it. We're watching the Clone Wars now and they're making fun of Anakin's confession to Padme - "Back to the clones!" "This is the boring part!" Wrestling on the couch... giggling.
     
  48. Timmythekid

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    So you haven't gotten to Jedi yet? Interested to hear how Vader's death goes. That was amazing to watch from the other side when we screened it for my oldest a few months ago, and almost better than "I am your father". He still can't listen to the music for that scene or the funeral pyre.
     
  49. Guri

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    Oh, we finished all of them on Saturday, I've just not reported on it...


    I've only watched Revenge of the Sith a couple of times, so I sat down to watch it with them, rather than to just watch THEM.

    But I do remember that from Anakin turning to the dark side on, they were silent and mesmerized... up until the "Noooooo!" and then my son looked at me and we laughed, mostly because he has that sound saved on his computer and hits it whenever he's working on it and I give him some sort of news, instruction or correction he doesn't like.

    (Sidenote: Can I say I just love having inside Star Wars jokes with my kids? Teens are supposed to be difficult, but I think I am really liking these years and his sophisticated sense of humor)

    I was really shaken by the clones turning on the Jedi. It is by far the darkest, most emotional scene in Star Wars prequels for me... Second only in the entire movie line up to Vader saving Luke from the Emperor.

    During that scene I did take one look at the boys and they were paralyzed staring at the screen, very disturbed. It really is very well done.

    My sons are into the Clone Wars animated series, so they like Cody and the clones and have a difficult time with order 66 being so easy to follow.

    The Obi-wan leaving Anakin to die scene, I didn't look at them... or the Padme death scene either.

    Afterward we asked what they thought and they said it was good (OF COURSE!) and then said, 'can we eat the cake now? haha!

    One other interesting point was about half way through Episode 1 I asked what the new kid thought of Jar Jar and he said he liked him!! BUT, in Episode 2 he said something, I can't remember exactly, but it was along the lines of; what is it with Jar Jar, he's just in the way like he doesn't really have anything to do... why is he there?

    Overall, the party was a HUGE success and many, many thanks, micdavis for helping to make it happen, or at least making the most important aspect of it much easier on me to organize!! :D

    I forgot to mention that in the context of watching it 4,5,6,1,2,3 with those who haven't seen it before, the change to have young Anakin show up at the end of 6 REALLY makes no sense. WHO THE HECK IS THAT??? They knew from outside sources and images, but really, if you didn't see Ep 1-3, you'd be like 'huh?'.

    Also, from listening to Yoda's instruction to Obi-wan in Ep 3, it makes no sense that Anakin would be there in ANY form, it should be Qui-gon! Of course, Luke would have no idea who that was, but Yoda says, only Qui-Gon figured out how to master immortality and he was going to teach Obi-wan to communicate with him to continue his studying. When did Anakin learn that? Certainly not from the Emperor, right? Was he just gifted it?

    Anyway, my reaction to watching them all again, with the kids is that, I love it even more.
     
  50. Chrisisall

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    Thanks Guri, this was a LOT of fun to follow!:thumbsup
     

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