Star Wars Blu-Rays... Again

[anamorphicWayne]

Have any of you heard of the Star Wars Legacy Edition? Mike Verta is doing a 4K restoration of the film. I'm very interested on how it'll turn out.

Star Wars Legacy Edition
http://www.starwarslegacy.com/archive/

https://vimeo.com/channels/starwarslegacy

 

[batguy]

Ummm . . . . how do you make a fan-edit resto of a movie in 4K when it has never been commercially released in anything near that resolution?




By 2020's, the 1997 SE changes will be 20+ years old. There was only 20 years between 1977-97 the first time.

My point is that the SE's really won't be a "recent" set of changes anymore and I think this will work in our favor in terms of their legitimacy. This will be like a movie coming out in 1957 and then it got some controversial changes made in 1977 but they are now looking dated & creatively questionable.




As long as I'm on a general rant about OOT restos, we fans need to get more vocal about the garbage mattes issue. This one bothers me a lot more than a couple seconds of uncolored lightsaber or the wrong ILM model of the Falcon in ANH.

That stuff may be "original" but it wasn't visible in the movie theater like it is on home video. If it was, ILM would have taken more steps to reduce it originally.

It has basically turned into an alteration of the movie just like fading film stocks or degrading audio tapes. The issue will probably keep worsening with each improvement of the image quality until corrective action is taken.

 

[anamorphicWayne]

Ummm . . . . how do you make a fan-edit resto of a movie in 4K when it has never been commercially released in anything near that resolution?

By 2020's, the 1997 SE changes will be 20+ years old. There was only 20 years between 1977-97 the first time.

My point is that the SE's really won't be a "recent" set of changes anymore and I think this will work in our favor in terms of their legitimacy. This will be like a movie coming out in 1957 and then it got some controversial changes made in 1977 but they are now looking dated & creatively questionable.

As long as I'm on a general rant about OOT restos, we fans need to get more vocal about the garbage mattes issue. This one bothers me a lot more than a couple seconds of uncolored lightsaber or the wrong ILM model of the Falcon in ANH.

That stuff may be "original" but it wasn't visible in the movie theater like it is on home video. If it was, ILM would have taken more steps to reduce it originally.

It has basically turned into an alteration of the movie just like fading film stocks or degrading audio tapes. The issue will probably keep worsening with each improvement of the image quality until corrective action is taken.

From what I understand, he has access to a technicolor version of the film.

 

[The Terminator]

Redo it all from scratch; the 1990s/2000s work in the existing SE is starting to look dated anyway. In the last decade I think the realism of (top grade) CGI work is finally reaching a plateau. With all the creative stuff left out the SE recreation job would be a much smaller job. With modern times it wouldn't be the kind of huge expensive operation it was in 1997.

That is what they partially did with the DVDs and again for the Blurays

Have any of you heard of the Star Wars Legacy Edition? Mike Verta is doing a 4K restoration of the film. I'm very interested on how it'll turn out.

Star Wars Legacy Edition
http://www.starwarslegacy.com/archive/

https://vimeo.com/channels/starwarslegacy

Oh yes, have followed it for years looks like it is more faithful than either Harmys or Andywans work.

By 2020's, the 1997 SE changes will be 20+ years old. There was only 20 years between 1977-97 the first time.

My point is that the SE's really won't be a "recent" set of changes anymore and I think this will work in our favor in terms of their legitimacy. This will be like a movie coming out in 1957 and then it got some controversial changes made in 1977 but they are now looking dated & creatively questionable.

The original Special Editions came out in '97 but they have also been heavily modified after that, over and over. So they are still fairly recent.

 

[batguy]

The original Special Editions came out in '97 but they have also been heavily modified after that, over and over. So they are still fairly recent.

Yeah, I know. But the re-workings have not always been up to snuff, quality-wise. Seriously, some of the modern fan-edit work is comparable or better.

On the other hand, the fact that the notoriously thrifty George Lucas was willing to keep monkeying with the movies for each release is evidence of how affordable that really is in the big scheme of things.




I guess my argument is that we should start looking at the SE-vs-OT issue with modern eyes.

We don't need to treat the SE like an expensive separate movie anymore.

We don't need GL's approval anymore.

And most of the public does agree on which changes to keep & toss now.

 

[niennumb1]

So is this going to be made available to people or is this just some private kept thing we'll never get to see?

 

[Jaitea]

So is this going to be made available to people or is this just some private kept thing we'll never get to see?

Yeah,.....I think Mike Verta's improvements are for him only,....but he's showing that the footage can be restored & at an excellent quality no mater if the original negative is destroyed,...

....its the same as the 4K Reliance MW scan,....at least we can rest in bed knowing that the original unaltered SW still exists & in excellent condition,.....we can't get to experience though,.....ah well......at least theres more Star Wars projects coming to ease the pain

J

 

[Inquisitor Peregrinus]

Hell, maybe Mike will make it available to LFL for less than it'd cost them to do the transfer themselves. "Here -- I did the work for you in anticipation of the day you would need it", or something like that.

--Jonah

 

[Bedon292]

I am fine owning what I already have. Definitely no interest in getting yet another version of the same Star Wars. If it were a version where you get to pick what you see, then I would be all over it, but for now definitely not interested.

That Legacy Edition restoration looks pretty amazing though. Wish it were viewable.

 

[batguy]

Hell, maybe Mike will make it available to LFL for less than it'd cost them to do the transfer themselves. "Here -- I did the work for you in anticipation of the day you would need it", or something like that.

If he could do the project at that quality level then he should consider the possible future usages of it. The original resolution probably won't ever go much beyond 4k even on the 35mm.


But people say the quality loss is huge just between the camera negatives and the very first generation of prints.

 

[anamorphicWayne]

I think the film he's using is a 70mm print, if that make a difference?