Star Trek XI Prop Ratings

hardworkingguy2000

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a) Overall Star Trek XI: (1- Bad...10 Future Movie Classic): 8
b) New Phaser design (1-Bad...10 Great): 5 *what the hell --Switch/pivot nozzle action ? **
c) New Enterprise Design (1 bad..10 great): 8 liked the blue...big way overboard
d) Space Battle Sequences ( 1 Bad...10 great): 7 too fast paced--copies Star Wars...
 
a) 8 - I really liked the movie, kept enough of the feel of the property, but gave a convincing enough plot to introduce a new chain of events.

b) 5 - yeah, really didn't like the whole switch action between stun and kill.

c) 7 - I can't say I really like the over sized nacelle's, but I suppose I can live with it.

d) 7 - I actually liked the battles especially the one at the end as the Enterprise warped in weapons firing. The Romulan mining ship didn't really do much for me for some reason.
 
Just saw it... still reeling. I seem to like it less and less with each passing hour. :lol

a Overall: Eh, I guess.... 5? The film it reminded me the most of was Star Trek V, in tone. I found it way too jokey, convenient, weightless, and fantasy-like.

b Phaser: I guess about a 4. Not the absolute worst but way too much like the Galaxy Quest prop.

c Enterprise: eh... outside I guess 6 (I'll be generous :lol) Hate the nacelles but I liked the impressive size it has on screen. Surprised to find I liked the Bridge window, despite how it breaks canon. It really helped scale the ship and ground the viewer into where they were.

You didn't have a category for the sets, so I'll add that I really really did not care for them. I'll give em a 3 on a scale of 10. Bridge too bright, corridors too curvy, everything just gratuitously busy. Hated the engine room, the transparent water tubes, ugh.

Sickbay wasn't too bad. Transporter room not too bad either but again too busy. Transporter console was stolen right off of Galaxy Quest.

d space battles: well OK I'll bite... 8. Really reminded me of "Revenge of the Sith" though. I applaud them for moving the ships in a massive way. I feared the Enterprise moving like an X-wing but thankfully we didn't get that.
 
Hated the engine room, the transparent water tubes, ugh.

Your didn't like the water tubes? What about the steel grates, the light fixtures, rotating valves, light switches, and concrete on this FUTURISTIC SPACE SHIP!?
 
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A) 9 - Had enough connection and reference to TOS.
B) 7 - I liked the effects and finish.
C) 6 - I was wowed but may be a little too svelte.
D) 9 - Very cool. I wasn't at all crazy about the porcupine Romulan ship.
 
a) 10 - I loved it, it captured the original show perfectly.

b) 9 - I'm not much for the twizzle effect to change settings.

c) 10 - It looks great on screen.

d) 10 - Again, looked great.
 
A) Overall Star Trek XI: 6 It was ok for a starting point.
B) New Phaser design: 4 God I hate that lame flipping barrel!!!
C) New Enterprise Design: 7 The nacelles were a bit funny looking.
D) Space Battle Sequences: 8 I thought it could have slowed a bit.
 
A. 0 for more reasons than I care to list.

B. 0 Shamelessly lifting a line from a "Real movie",You gotta be effin kidding me!

C. 0 Production design on this was horrible.

D. 4 Kinda dug the battles
 
A. 7 - I found it a lot of fun. Good popcorn flick. Action packed. More like Star Wars but enjoyed watching it but it had plot problems.

B. 4 - Ugh. The bland chrome exterior was lame. Flipping barrel looked stupid. I really didn't like that they shot bolts like a blaster.

C. 5 - Outside: badly proportioned but not horrible in action. Inside: Never liked the Apple Store look but then seeing it contrasting the brewery look of engineering was horrible. Like super future with touch screens and then rotating valves?

D. 10 - Great. I loved the sense of more speed. I personally never dug the capital ship look of the old stuff. They are big ships but they are still moving fast. Better sense of scale than every seen in ST movies before. Nice job ILM.
 
Your didn't like the water tubes? What about the steel grates, the light fixtures, rotating valves, light switches, and concrete on this FUTURISTIC SPACE SHIP!?

I was trying to limit my laundry-listing of such stuff, for the sake of the readers. :lol

But yes, all of those things are inexplicable. The Engineering set, and the "water processing ducts" or whatever the hell they are, look municipal and industrial. They do not look like any sort of spaceship technology, of today or the future.

Just the sheer mindlessness of that... "we don't have to build engineering! We'll just find something that looks industrial and shoot it on location"... wow. Mindblowing. The sheer absence of creativity there. What is that, who thinks like that?

Why not just film the Bridge scenes on the bridge of a supertanker, the Sickbay scenes in a hospital, and the corridors in a subway. Look at all the money we saved!
 
What's more inexplicable is that the clear sections of the tubs were added digitally in post. Like they tried to save money by shooting in a brewery and then spent money replacing tubes with CG and motion tracking the camera moves? Why not just build something?
 
Well keep in mind this was ALL for the sake of the comedy routine of Scotty being shot around in the tubes.

Somebody thought this was hilarious in the meeting. :lol

Anyway shooting an actor through practical tubes would have cost a fortune too I guess.. plus with CG you can really bang Scotty around for extra laughs.

Seriously, isn't this what people want from a film like this? To stop the action cold, so we can have a Looney Tunes comedy scenario? :unsure

Same thing with Kirk and his swollen hands. WTF? Why not just computer animate this entire film and make it a Shrek cartoon.

What's more inexplicable is that the clear sections of the tubs were added digitally in post. Like they tried to save money by shooting in a brewery and then spent money replacing tubes with CG and motion tracking the camera moves? Why not just build something?
 
a) 6 - Everything was too shiny. Literally, there was lens flare in every damn shot.
b) 4 - Barely used and just not a nice design.
c) 8 - I liked it. Looks plausible.
d) 7 - ST is not about the action, but the scenes were okay.
 
Honestly I too thought the brewery was the 'easy way out' but it wasn't enough to make me dislike the movie as a whole.

I was most disappointed with the communicators I think....was there really a need to redesign those too?
 
A) - Overall I'd give it an 8.3 but there are some things that just bug the hell out of me. I must say I liked it better the second time because I was expecting to have to over-look those things that drove me crazy the first time.

B) - Hate the new phaser design. I'd give it a 2 and that's generous. The original is such an enduring icon and was just cool the first time you saw it. The new one is forgettable

C) - Hate the new Enterprise. Its out-of-porportion appearence makes it look too cartoonish. I'll have to give this a 2 because it's the most important tie-in to trek really. The only saving grace in the movie is that you very rarely got to see the whole ship for any amount of time or it was moving really fast. It was always a close-up someplace on the saucer or something. Speaking of which I'm confused by the comments about it's grand size. To me it seemed smaller then the TOS ship; mostley because of the location of the bridge (location id'ed via the window) (which in the new movie took up the entire area of deck 2 &3 on the original).

D) - Space battle scenes were ok. I'd give them a 6. I am sick and tired of the "BSG" effect. Quick shots, blurs, out-of-focus, lens flares, quick zooms, etc. Worked great on BSG but enough already. On Trek I envision these battles taking place at a distance due to the advanced technology and the fact that a vessel the size of the Enterprise can't be effective in close quarters. The "Kelvin" was cool and I loved the captain of that ship.

Just my opinion and it doesn't mean a thing except to me :lol
 
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a) Overall: 9.5 - For sheer entertainment

b) New Phaser design: 7 or 8. - The design was ok itself, but I absolutely *loved* the flip barrel action between stun and kill.

c) New Enterprise Design: 8 - Externally, this is a hard one, when compared against 40 years of having 'the same thing'. I liked it, but any doubts I had about proportions when looking at still pictures, vanished once I was watching it in motion in the film. It just worked! (oh, and the engine room worked for me, brilliantly. Today we have touch screens on bridges and greasy engine rooms, so for me it grounded it more than a corridor set with some flashy lights at the end. Made it feel like a real and complicated ship. Not something that just runs on 'magical future stuff')

d) Space Battle Sequences: 10 - Utterly brilliant. Amazing Visual FX, great sense of scale to the ships (which moved with the appropriate weight and slow speed in space) ... hugely watchable with great and visually interesting camera work/angles
 
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a) Overall: 9 -- I loved the film for its entertainment value as well as the new takes on the characters. However, I did feel it moved too fast and I actually wanted more techno babble to slow things down. And even though she was hot, there was way too much Uhura. (but I would risk getting Space Herpes for the Orion chick -- SO CUTE!!!)

b) New Phaser design: 8 -- Honestly, the phaser looked good on screen, even though it looks somewhat meh in real life photos. The flip-barrel action really came out looking great--If it was slow, I would have booed, but it moved really fast and clicked into place neatly. :thumbsup

I did like that it shot in short bursts, because in ALL the old trek shows/movies, the characters just stood there as the beam continuously fired--as if the main characters knew they wouldn't get shot because they weren't wearing red shirts :lol It helped give the Narada phaser battle a sense of urgency.

c) New Enterprise Design: 7 -- Yes, the nacelles were HUGE, but the ship did look nice on screen. I also kind of wish the nacelle lights were red; where was way too much blue lighting on the exterior. I didn't mind the interior ipodish designs at all, but the brewery engineering room was distracting. I can understand wanting the look to be industrial, but please, just build a set and make it look interesting.

d) Space Battle Sequences: 10 - DEFINITELY the best parts of the film. I love Trek, but I always found the space battles to be bland and boring (yes, even the last ship fight in TWOK). The Kelvin/Narada battle was fantastic and tear jerking, and I loved the scene when the E entered the debris field and slowly made its way through. You really felt the weight of the ship. And I really felt that the ships were taking heavy damage, which was something that I never really felt in the shows/old movies (probably because the FX was so cheap).

Oh, and the way the Jellyfish maneuvered (Spock prime's ship, for those who didn't read Countdown) was adorable.
 
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