Star Trek: Picard
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HMSwolfe
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I just don’t understand how, in an age where a series could literally be as niche as anyone could possibly want, and directly cater to even the smallest group of fans’ whims, and they keep choosing to try to get people who would never watch Star Trek in any capacity to watch their content. I’m probably in the “target demographic” for the Bad Robot Trek—I never watched Trek growing up. The closest I got was Galaxy Quest. I’ve always preferred Star Wars. But none of the Abrams/Kurtzman Trek has ever appealed to me either. In fact, out of the three reboot films, I liked Beyond the best, and only the “trapped on a planet” aspect, not the Marvel villain Idris Elba “gotta blow up a thing” plot. Why doesn’t CBS realize that there’s already a big enough demographic that they could make a ton of money if they just made what they wanted?
Sorry if I keep butting in to the conversation. I’d like you guys to have the kind of Trek you want, even if it doesn’t appeal to me.
Sorry if I keep butting in to the conversation. I’d like you guys to have the kind of Trek you want, even if it doesn’t appeal to me.
Ah, yes, one of Star Trek’s finest moments, indeed.
I thought that this guy was going to break into a song, of the type seen in a Disney movie, complete with animated penguins...
“Forget all your troubles and let’s slide away!
Slide away!
Slide away!
Slide away all!!!”
A little known fact: In the 24th Century, citizens of the Romulan Empire had apparently been living in the British Isles, for generations, based upon the accents we are hearing. Who knew? I mean, they would not develop these accents in only 14 years. I lived in Texas for almost 2 years and never started referring to everyone as “ya’ll”. Show me an American ex pat, living in the UK, (and not Madonna with her strange “sometimes British” accent) who completely assimilated a British accent in their everyday speech.
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Well, I imagine some people must think this show is great. I can't help but thinking there's a 'video game' element to how these producers are approaching the material.
I bet the producers of episode 4 thought they were giving us 'gold' with that slippy-slidey scene. Only a fool would scoff at a scene like that. Only haters wouldn't like a scene like that. I think they have a hostile attitude to any Star Trek that predates 2009. They must think that they had to come in and revamp Star Trek because it needed a 'make-over'. That's Trek-post-2009 is to me anyway. Just a superficial makeover while adding absolutely nothing reminiscent of the endearing qualities of Star Trek. Jumbling and stirring things up is what these producers are all about and good luck to anyone who disagrees. The only way this new kind of 'hostile takeover' stops is if the ratings suffer and the network takes a financial hit. Then someone gets the boot. Then, and only then, would producers or networks ever admit 'well, we were puzzled as to what we were doing wrong, we thought fans wanted to pay to see more Star Trek'. Anyway, I'm gonna stop talking about this because the whole situation is sad to me. Let's just say I keep my old Star Trek stuff polished and dust-free because I've been running back to it quite often lately, when I need a dose of the real stuff.
I bet the producers of episode 4 thought they were giving us 'gold' with that slippy-slidey scene. Only a fool would scoff at a scene like that. Only haters wouldn't like a scene like that. I think they have a hostile attitude to any Star Trek that predates 2009. They must think that they had to come in and revamp Star Trek because it needed a 'make-over'. That's Trek-post-2009 is to me anyway. Just a superficial makeover while adding absolutely nothing reminiscent of the endearing qualities of Star Trek. Jumbling and stirring things up is what these producers are all about and good luck to anyone who disagrees. The only way this new kind of 'hostile takeover' stops is if the ratings suffer and the network takes a financial hit. Then someone gets the boot. Then, and only then, would producers or networks ever admit 'well, we were puzzled as to what we were doing wrong, we thought fans wanted to pay to see more Star Trek'. Anyway, I'm gonna stop talking about this because the whole situation is sad to me. Let's just say I keep my old Star Trek stuff polished and dust-free because I've been running back to it quite often lately, when I need a dose of the real stuff.
This is interesting.
I was looking forward to watching this, but based on what I'm reading, it can wait lol.
Too bad one of the franchises they are NOT pillaging from is Star Trek.
peterquill
Sr Member
“We can’t judge this as “Star Trek”; that is dead.” - Rich Evans
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d_jedi1
Sr Member
That look she does right there... that has to be some of the worst acting I've ever seen in Trek
Marv
Sr Member
Personally I'm fine with this series. I grew up watching all the older stuff, and was fine with that I actually think the new movies are good too - never seen a single episode of enterprise to comment, but discovery is pretty cr@p. Not really getting why people are so anti the new films and this series?
Its not like they have dumbed it down like Disney have done with Star Wars.
Its not like they have dumbed it down like Disney have done with Star Wars.
I humbly disagree on this point, which is precisely why I am disappointed in Bad Robot Trek.
The Brahma Bull
Sr Member
I still remember the puddle of talking oil which killed Tasha Yar. Or that farmer families chewing straw on board of the Enterprise D. Every fight or Aliens of the week behaving like dog catchers on the floors of the Enterprise catching Riker. So, did I have high expectations on new Star Trek stuff? Nope. Is some of it really really bad? Yes it is. It is as bad as Star Trek has been sometimes? No. Was there any ST Series with a good starting season besides TOS (which just was something totally different at its time)? I did not like any first season of any ST show. Especially every first season from anything 24th century just was not good.
And yeah, this space elf-samurai isn't a good idea, but we've got The Rock as a space gladiator on Voyager, a racist episode on TNG. Klingons, who are the opposite of good warriors fighting with things that look like my pizza knife.
And yeah, this space elf-samurai isn't a good idea, but we've got The Rock as a space gladiator on Voyager, a racist episode on TNG. Klingons, who are the opposite of good warriors fighting with things that look like my pizza knife.
I would grant Picard a “first season growing pains” pass....
...but for the fact that Picard is an established character with 7 seasons of TV and 4 movies behind him. I can’t imagine an easier job, in TV, than picking back up that story, and that character, and carrying on where you last left him and his universe.
For that reason, I don’t give this show a “first season growing pains” shrug for seemingly fumbling a very gently tossed pass.
I predict that in next week’s episode, Picard will again put the brakes on his “frantic race” to save the DOD (Daughter of Data) to pick up a dwarf.
“You have my axe...”
“And my sword...”
“...and my facepalm.”
...but for the fact that Picard is an established character with 7 seasons of TV and 4 movies behind him. I can’t imagine an easier job, in TV, than picking back up that story, and that character, and carrying on where you last left him and his universe.
For that reason, I don’t give this show a “first season growing pains” shrug for seemingly fumbling a very gently tossed pass.
I predict that in next week’s episode, Picard will again put the brakes on his “frantic race” to save the DOD (Daughter of Data) to pick up a dwarf.
“You have my axe...”
“And my sword...”
“...and my facepalm.”
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patrickivan
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Right. And TNG pumped out FORTY EIGHT episodes in 2 years. Each pushing 50 minutes after commercials. No one would expect every episode in a serialized show like that in the 80's of all time, to be stellar.
But now we have 10 episodes for something that is supposed to be ONE story, and allegedly highly thought out. And part of that includes a Romulan and synthetic love story, involving sliding in a disco hall that Borgs supposedly also used to do as a ritual? WTH???
10 episodes and THAT???
Come on man, it's like they're only trying to be Star Trek in the sense that they throw in things that resemble Star Trek. And in the first 4 episodes, we got a Matrixesque fight scene mary sue, everything promoting discovery tech, a corrupt federation that doesn't sound like anything in Star Trek ever, Legolas the sword wielding Romulan on a quest to protect the Picard, A crew of swearing, smoking, PTSD misfits on a cargo ship, and I have no idea what the **** is going on in this new series. Oh, and a character who is now referred to as the Destroyer or some nonsense... Sheesh. Bring on Thanos!
So ya, comparing old TNG to this is really fair. Not to Picard though, The worst TNG seems almost bearable compared to this new series, and that includes the lovely pastels and synthetic 80's music of the first 2 seasons.
