Star Trek IV "prop" nearing retirement

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  1. Goonie

    Goonie Sr Member

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  2. SVTStingRay

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    they need to save that ship. i cant believe another enterprise will be scrapped after what happened to cv-6. such a shame
     
  3. Monster Dave

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    I agree, it is sad to hear that the big carrier is nearing retirement.

    But I had to snicker at this quote:

    "The problems are so notorious that sailors reporting to work aboard the Enterprise are often given joking condolences by their colleagues on shore and on other ships."

    Because it made me think of the beginning of Star Trek V where the Enterprise was most definitely NOT ready and falling apart before they ever left space-dock. :facepalm

    Oh, and lets not forget that the Enterprise was also used in Top Gun! :thumbsup


    ...*...why scrap it though?? Why not use it as a museum like the Midway in San Diego or the carrier in New York???
     
  4. jlee562

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    The Enterprise was not actually in Trek IV. The ship that appeared as The Enterprise was the USS Ranger.
     
  5. micdavis

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    FYI, the Enterprise was not played by the Enterprise in Star Trek IV.

    It was the USS Ranger.

    It was here in San Diego at the time and they filmed those scenes here.

    Unfortunately I didn't hear about it until the night they finished. But that did lead me to the next week's shooting schedule in Will Roger's State Park.
     
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  6. Monster Dave

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    I still like better thinking that it was...thank's for bursting the bubble for those who didn't know that little fact of ST Trivia.


    :behave
     
  7. SSgt Burton

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    I don't see how this could be considered very obscure trivia; they do "thank" the men and women of the USS Ranger in the credits.



    Kevin
     
  8. MooCriket

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    I never ventured to learn or read that. Seems really crazy that they would use another ship other than the Enterprise to play the Enterprise, doesn't it?

    Hollywood!!!
     
  9. jlee562

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    The story goes that the Enterprise was out at sea, and beyond that, at the time the nuclear technology was still classified, so shooting in the area of the actual reactor would not have been possible anyways.
     
  10. MooCriket

    MooCriket Master Member

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    Now I know, and knowing is half the battle. Go Joe! Oops wrong thread.
     
  11. division 6

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    Also at the time the Enterprise was no longer berthed in Alameda, the Carl Vincent was.
     
  12. reaper63

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    it probably wouldn't be opened to the public because of the Nuclear Reactors. The public out cry would make it beyond trouble. Even if the reactors and fuel material had been removed along with the connected systems.

    that said, I'd want it put to port and left open for people to tour!!! Drop the Growler from the Intrepid here in NYC bring in Enterprise. then we can have 2 Enterprises here!!!
     
  13. Monster Dave

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    Just so it's clear, I was just trying to be funny by my earlier post.

    I really didn't know that though!!
     
  14. CessnaDriver

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    I expect a Ford Class carrier will bare the name at some point.
     
  15. DavidS

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    "you still may number one.... I doubt this will be the last ship to bear the name Enterprise.."

    "There are plenty of letters left in the alphabet....."
     
  16. Apollo

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    50 years is a long time.

    It's a shame the old girl will be scrapped
     
  17. Monster Dave

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    niiiiice.
     
  18. DaddyfromNaboo

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    It´s actually not a prop, but a location, even if it technically qualifies as a vehicle.
     
  19. CMANavy

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    Everyone in the Navy should know this. Also, since Top Gun until the day she was DeCom'ed the Rangers UNREP Song was the Tog Gun Theme.

    It is always sad to see a ship go, but she has done her Duty and its time to pass the Mantle of "Enterprise" to the next ship.
     
  20. John Cooley

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    Indeed. She's had her day. There is a small movement of people who are petitioning the USN to give The Enterprise a permanent commission (like the Constitution). I think that would be a huge mistake as that would tie up the name in what would be essentially a museum ship, rather than passing the proud name of Enterprise to the (ahem) next generation of ship. There should Always be an Enterprise in the fleet.
     
  21. Rogue

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    Depends on how you look at it.

    As far as obscure facts go, a ship is capable of being arrested just like a person.

    As neither a prop nor a location is capable of being "arrested" then technically the ship cannot be either one - perhaps it should be considered "an actress" :lol
     
  22. Goonie

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  24. NormanF

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    50 is a long time for a reactor. It probably glows.
     
  25. Wes R

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    The military has really stopped caring about it's history, look how it treats it's retired aircraft instead of putting some in museums or selling them to collectors like they once did. They'd rather trash and forget it.
     
  26. SVTStingRay

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    so sad to see her end up being defeated by a cutting torch than in battle or end up as a museum for history's sake.
    Big E, you will be missed.

    i hope they do name of the ford's Enterprise.
     
  27. Jedi-72

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    Honestly, I don't think that it's the military that doesn't care. And that's all I'm gonna say about that...
     
  28. Treadwell

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    If every retired ship became a museum...

    In the 90s they tried to turn the USS Saratoga, a MUCH smaller carrier than the Enterprise, into a museum in Jacksonville, FL. Couldn't muster up enough interest and funding. Even at that size it would've been a HUGE thing to upkeep. Right now another group is working on getting the destroyer USS Adams berthed here as a museum, and its smaller size is viewed as making it more likely to succeed.

    The military can't just decommission a ship and say here it is folks, make a museum. Who's going to do it? I'm sure if an organization with a viable business plan and an approved place for it offered to take the E off the Navy's hands for scrap value, they would be happy to give it up.

    And there's this:
    Yes, the question of whether the venue would be popular enough to maintain itself is a sad but necessary consideration.
     
  29. 0neiros

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    Guys, they CAN'T Turn the Big-E into a museum. They'd have to pull the reactors, and those AREN'T Modular, they'd have to cut the ship in half to do it. Sorry in this case it isn't apathy but practicality. Better to let her go, and commission a new ship. Besides, 10 years from now you just may be shaving your face with the help of the Enterprise.
     

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