Star Trek Into Darkness (Post-release)

[mynameschris]

Marcus saw a war coming, that doesnt mean their necessarily was one coming as their was likely the border skirmishes which were shown or referenced in the show and novels.

Having grown up watching TOS on BBC2 and The Wrath of Khan being one of my favourite films I enjoyed seeing all of the character call backs, I even liked the way they turned the reactor scene.

Really hoping now the crew have found their feet the next adventure has them on the frontier exploring a strange new world and battling an unknown - hopefully this time in a ship that doesnt outgun the Enterprise to a degree that either theres no point firing back (Narada) or her weapons are damaged during the first attack so she cant (Vengence).

My big problem now is that I want an Anovos shirt even more!

 

[Mola Rob]

My "official" review:

Movie Review ? Star Trek Into Darkness | Edge of the Fringe

In other words my current opinion which is subject to change the more I think about the movie. :lol

 

[epilepticsquirl]

I actually enjoyed it more than I thought it would. I would've like Khan to be more Sikh, instead of an Englishman but hey, what you gunna do. The screaming Khan thing, I thought, was a bit over the top and unnecessary but overall I had fun. Besides, I never thought I would ever see Robocop vs Kirk in space, how awesome was that? :lol

 

[SmilingOtter]

One thing I just remembered - did I hear it wrong, or when Khan was dealing with Spock to get his people back, did Khan say something about targeting the life support systems located "behind the aft nacelle?" Port is right, starboard is left... which one is aft?

 

[Bryancd]

One thing I just remembered - did I hear it wrong, or when Khan was dealing with Spock to get his people back, did Khan say something about targeting the life support systems located "behind the aft nacelle?" Port is right, starboard is left... which one is aft?

Yep I caught that as well.

 

[PotionMistress]

I know I’ll probably get bashed for this, and I hate to sound like a disgruntled female, but I’m so bloody sick of every movie, TV show and game focusing on war, destruction, vengeance and mayhem. Is that really ALL men think about? Is that really the focal point of all their motivations and dreams?

I guess after seeing Into Darkness, it just really sunk in that every block-buster type film caters to this knuckle-dragging concept that war and cruelty-without-conscience is entertaining. Is that where we still are in our evolutionary development? Is simple vindictiveness the plateau of our emotional maturity? And will it still be in the 24th century? THAT is depressing.

I know this isn’t necessarily a gender-based argument, but generally, it is. Men and most of their hobbies still fixate on war and war-like toys. Why isn’t science and higher ideals frothing up as much testosterone?

Regardless, I wanted Trek to rise above that. That was what set it apart from the plethora of artless brutality that permeates most media. I know it is a reflection of our current terrorist fears, but I want a movie (especially a Star Trek movie) to take me to another plane of thought and emotion…not exacerbate the present.

I apologize to all the men who are offended by that, but I’m just generalizing of course.

And, I guess I’m as guilty in some ways because I DID enjoy Into Darkness more than I thought I would. But mostly for the characters who are still intact and shine through whatever lackluster story Abrams can throw together.

 

[Mola Rob]

One thing I just remembered - did I hear it wrong, or when Khan was dealing with Spock to get his people back, did Khan say something about targeting the life support systems located "behind the aft nacelle?" Port is right, starboard is left... which one is aft?

That puzzled me as well. Aren't both nacelles aft?

 

[Capn_Jack_Savvy]

One thing I just remembered - did I hear it wrong, or when Khan was dealing with Spock to get his people back, did Khan say something about targeting the life support systems located "behind the aft nacelle?" Port is right, starboard is left... which one is aft?

Isn't there a propulsion system behind the saucer section? Is that impulse or warp power? I believe on 1701D that the saucer section was capable of warp. So in theory wouldn't that have been considered a "nacelle" of warp propulsion? Life support behind the saucer would make sense because it wouldn't be exposed to combat.

 

[Jeyl]

Yep I caught that as well.

Pike: Divert power from port nacelles to forward shields!

How many nacelles does this ship not have?

 

[Mola Rob]

I know I’ll probably get bashed for this, and I hate to sound like a disgruntled female, but I’m so bloody sick of every movie, TV show and game focusing on war, destruction, vengeance and mayhem. Is that really ALL men think about? Is that really the focal point of all their motivations and dreams?

I guess after seeing Into Darkness, it just really sunk in that every block-buster type film caters to this knuckle-dragging concept that war and cruelty-without-conscience is entertaining. Is that where we still are in our evolutionary development? Is simple vindictiveness the plateau of our emotional maturity? And will it still be in the 24th century? THAT is depressing.

I know this isn’t necessarily a gender-based argument, but generally, it is. Men and most of their hobbies still fixate on war and war-like toys. Why isn’t science and higher ideals frothing up as much testosterone?

Regardless, I wanted Trek to rise above that. That was what set it apart from the plethora of artless brutality that permeates most media. I know it is a reflection of our current terrorist fears, but I want a movie (especially a Star Trek movie) to take me to another plane of thought and emotion…not exacerbate the present.

I apologize to all the men who are offended by that, but I’m just generalizing of course.

And, I guess I’m as guilty in some ways because I DID enjoy Into Darkness more than I thought I would. But mostly for the characters who are still intact and shine through whatever lackluster story Abrams can throw together.

I'm a dude and I take no offense at your statements. Most men I know are knuckle-draggers.

That being said violent and dangerous themes are dramatic themes and that's what makes movies exciting. Showcasing the crew scanning rocks and plants on a new world is not going to sell tickets. In the various Trek TV series there was more time to explore scientific and philosophical concepts but when you only make a movie every three or four years you need to cram in excitement and danger, underwear and juvenile humor.

My biggest problem with the stories in summer blockbusters is that they are all told in a less than serious manner with super cool heroes with abs of steel taking on a too powerful enemy with abs of steel and prevailing after an almost certain defeat. I would like to see a more realistic approach without all the generic crap that fills the screen. The violence is a necessary evil in order to sell tickets. The way they use it is another thing entirely.

 

[0neiros]

I always wondered why they didn't get someone with a slightly darker skintone to be Khan, i guess in this timeline he isn't from India.

You are aware that the Brahma of India are White/Aryan, like the Ainu of japan, and the Castillians of Spain right?

 

[Jeyl]

If Khan had that transwarp thingy from the very beginning, why didn't he just use it to beam onboard the USS Vengeance? I don't see anything in this film to show why that shouldn't have been step 1 in his plan.

 

[Bryancd]

Pike: Divert power from port nacelles to forward shields!

How many nacelles does this ship not have?

Yeah, it was clearly a bit of missed dialogue.

 

[Mola Rob]

If Khan had that transwarp thingy from the very beginning, why didn't he just use it to beam onboard the USS Vengeance? I don't see anything in this film to show why that shouldn't have been step 1 in his plan.

The whole transwarp transporter thing is nonsense. Scotty mentions that Starfleet confiscated his equation. So? Didn't he remember it or store it somewhere? Call Spock Sr. again and ask for the equation. There seems to be no modifications needed to make it work so why not just beam everyone everywhere.

 

[jakob2121]

Because you need to know what's at the other end, which still requires some sort of self-contained vessel to explore where those end points are. You could wind up in the middle of a star (or someone's wall) and that'd end your trip real quick.

 

[Jedi2016]

Just got back. We enjoyed it, I think moreso than the first one (and that's saying something, I loved the first one). The Khan thing played out nicely, they did a pretty good job covering up the truth of that through the marketing, even with the early rumors. Didn't expect to see Spock Prime, either, I hadn't heard anything about him being in this one. Love all the little nods to different bits of Trek lore (like the "Mudd incident" and the Gorn).

Saw it in 3D, though it was done pretty well. I know JJ wasn't too inclined to do it at first, but he liked the results.

 

[Goonie]

I know I’ll probably get bashed for this, and I hate to sound like a disgruntled female, but I’m so bloody sick of every movie, TV show and game focusing on war, destruction, vengeance and mayhem. Is that really ALL men think about? Is that really the focal point of all their motivations and dreams?

I have to agree with you. I'm getting sick and tired of turning on the TV and seeing nothing but terrorist news, people getting shot, raped, killed whatever, and then having to rehash the stuff in the theaters. I'm currently watching Shatner's crew Trek on Blu-Ray. J.J.'s vision of Trek is out to lunch. It seems the only thing we had close to Star Trek recently, was over the last 5 months of getting updates from this guy:



I saw the movie Friday night, and I'm really not sure what to think. The visuals were great, but the story was all over the place. I may have to give this one a second viewing in order to make up my mind.

 

[Hedjii72]

This film is a bit of a Hot Mess.

I'm nervous about Star Wars 7 now. I really felt a bit bombarded by the camera, pacing, and editing. JJ's storytelling style is very busy and confusing. I think the quick cuts and violent camera movements are lazy storytelling techniques. Oh, I'm sure it requires a lot from ILM, but it seems to lack any choreography.

Khan? Really? Khan? We have a whole blank universe to play with, and we go straight for Khan? And I'm sorry, you just can't do better than Ricardo Montalban, so why try? I really think the writers are really stuck.

I know Abrams is trying hard to enhance the character moments and their relationships, but nothing here compares to the warmth felt between the original actors. Nothing here made me want to roll a tear during Kirk's death scene. It's not all the fault of the actors, either.

Actually, the beginning of the film was decent. At least they were boldly going. So odd that at the end of this film, we are exactly where the first one ended. Can we please explore something new next time?

This is a weak premise dressed up with fabulous visuals, fine acting, and lots of energy, but it really is a bit of a mess.

 

[Jeyl]

Because you need to know what's at the other end, which still requires some sort of self-contained vessel to explore where those end points are. You could wind up in the middle of a star (or someone's wall) and that'd end your trip real quick.

I think if Prime Spock used a broken, run down Shuttlecraft's transporter to beam Kirk and Scotty onboard the Enterprise while it was at WARP SPEED with a slight margin of error (because you know, Prime Spock had never been on the Enterprise where as Khan helped design the Vengeance), I think Khan can do the same thing with the Vengeance in the same solar system when it's not moving.

 

[jakob2121]

I was speaking to the general criticism of "why do they need ships anymore if they can just beam everywhere?".