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Re: Star Lord w/ lights and sound - hair and blaster progress
Those pants look great
Those pants look great
Star Lord w/ lights and sound - 3d Print Files - Infinity Orb Base in Progress
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Ein
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Re: Star Lord w/ lights and sound - hair and blaster progress
Well, I've recovered from my post-Comicon daze, I think. Went pretty well, if I say so! I look like a huge nerd, but what are ya gonna do. Wish I'd had the mask done!
I've had a bunch of people PM'ing me about various things. My to-do list is as follows:
- Clean the workshed up. I left the thing in something of a disastrous state when I was working at like 1 AM before the convention. This'll probably take most of my Sunday.
- Finish the helmet. I have a lot of sculpting, sanding, and polish work to do before I make a master mold and start trying to pop out resin copies. I really appreciate people PMing me to ask, but I will not be selling 3d prints of the helmet. It'd tie my printer up for far too much time and wouldn't be economical. I might make a run of resin copies available down the line once I work out some details - like getting Helagak's OK, since I used his files as a base before I made many hours of changes to turn it into the one I have now in the OP. This would not be available by Halloween, since I've never cast a helmet and I need to learn what I'm doing. I'm bound to make mistakes and I wouldn't make the deadlines required to have helmets done and shipped before the holiday.
- Print my test base for the infinity orb, and then make a mold of the orb and start working on making cold cast aluminum copies. I will probably be putting an interest thread up in the classifieds section in a few days once I figure out my costs on making these orbs, so keep your eyes open! Thinking I'm going to offer finished orbs in batches of 10. These will similarly not be available in time for Halloween, and I regret that, but I have to order the electronics components before I can even start and that'll take a week or so. There wouldn't be time to ship things out.
Well, I've recovered from my post-Comicon daze, I think. Went pretty well, if I say so! I look like a huge nerd, but what are ya gonna do. Wish I'd had the mask done!
I've had a bunch of people PM'ing me about various things. My to-do list is as follows:
- Clean the workshed up. I left the thing in something of a disastrous state when I was working at like 1 AM before the convention. This'll probably take most of my Sunday.
- Finish the helmet. I have a lot of sculpting, sanding, and polish work to do before I make a master mold and start trying to pop out resin copies. I really appreciate people PMing me to ask, but I will not be selling 3d prints of the helmet. It'd tie my printer up for far too much time and wouldn't be economical. I might make a run of resin copies available down the line once I work out some details - like getting Helagak's OK, since I used his files as a base before I made many hours of changes to turn it into the one I have now in the OP. This would not be available by Halloween, since I've never cast a helmet and I need to learn what I'm doing. I'm bound to make mistakes and I wouldn't make the deadlines required to have helmets done and shipped before the holiday.
- Print my test base for the infinity orb, and then make a mold of the orb and start working on making cold cast aluminum copies. I will probably be putting an interest thread up in the classifieds section in a few days once I figure out my costs on making these orbs, so keep your eyes open! Thinking I'm going to offer finished orbs in batches of 10. These will similarly not be available in time for Halloween, and I regret that, but I have to order the electronics components before I can even start and that'll take a week or so. There wouldn't be time to ship things out.
80sKIDAutoman
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Re: Star Lord w/ lights and sound - hair and blaster progress
Good to know Ein and i look forward to your interest thread. I myself cannot wait for the Dec 6 San Jose toy show.
Good to know Ein and i look forward to your interest thread. I myself cannot wait for the Dec 6 San Jose toy show.
juancgarcia
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Re: Star Lord w/ lights and sound - hair and blaster progress
Hi everybody, I'm working on my own helmet and having trouble bonding PLA parts together.
The first thing I tried was JB-Weld KwikWeld 6min epoxy on some scrap printed supports. At first it appears to hold the parts together well, but I'm thinking it only adheres by surface tension as it peeled off after giving the pieces a good flex. On the other hand I am having good bond strength with the friction-weld technique, but it's a bit tedious to be constantly reloading filament segments into my dremel (http://makezine.com/projects/make-3...-and-post-processing-your-3d-printed-objects/).
What adhesive/epoxy/glue/cement/etc do you guys and gals recommend that gives a solid bond on PLA?
P.S. Great job on your Starlord so far, Ein!
Hi everybody, I'm working on my own helmet and having trouble bonding PLA parts together.
The first thing I tried was JB-Weld KwikWeld 6min epoxy on some scrap printed supports. At first it appears to hold the parts together well, but I'm thinking it only adheres by surface tension as it peeled off after giving the pieces a good flex. On the other hand I am having good bond strength with the friction-weld technique, but it's a bit tedious to be constantly reloading filament segments into my dremel (http://makezine.com/projects/make-3...-and-post-processing-your-3d-printed-objects/).
What adhesive/epoxy/glue/cement/etc do you guys and gals recommend that gives a solid bond on PLA?
P.S. Great job on your Starlord so far, Ein!
-VERTIGO-
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Re: Star Lord w/ lights and sound - hair and blaster progress
Maybe look at either JB Plastic Weld or I think Ein used Apoxie Sculpt.
Maybe look at either JB Plastic Weld or I think Ein used Apoxie Sculpt.
Ein
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Re: Star Lord w/ lights and sound - hair and blaster progress
So I realized I never got finished video of the blaster up. Let me fix that!
The other gun's still being finished, but I'm happy with how this thing ultimately came out. I think if I had to do it again, I'd skip using the nerf blaster as a base, or at least not have it open up, but I wanted to go for the full gimmick.
Helmet progress is next, just waiting on some supplies since I ran out of epoxy!
So I realized I never got finished video of the blaster up. Let me fix that!
The other gun's still being finished, but I'm happy with how this thing ultimately came out. I think if I had to do it again, I'd skip using the nerf blaster as a base, or at least not have it open up, but I wanted to go for the full gimmick.
Helmet progress is next, just waiting on some supplies since I ran out of epoxy!
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Re: Star Lord w/ lights and sound - hair and blaster progress
awesome job on the blasters!!!.....
awesome job on the blasters!!!.....
Staar Lord Maan
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Re: Star Lord w/ lights and sound - hair and blaster progress
Hey Ein!
I gotta say, that job you did on your blaster is way beyond my capabilities and I wish I had your brain. :lol I am still in the sanding the cowls stage of my Element Guns, but I'm also not shooting for a deadline, so I got that going for me. I'd be very interested in seeing close ups of parts of the pants you did, too. GREAT work!!!
Hey Ein!
I gotta say, that job you did on your blaster is way beyond my capabilities and I wish I had your brain. :lol I am still in the sanding the cowls stage of my Element Guns, but I'm also not shooting for a deadline, so I got that going for me. I'd be very interested in seeing close ups of parts of the pants you did, too. GREAT work!!!
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Ein
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Re: Star Lord w/ lights and sound - hair and blaster progress
Okay!
I took a bit of time off to attend to some things I had to do - a bit of healthcare related to my back, and also candidly a bit of Skyward Sword, since I ended up winning it on an eBay auction for cheap last week.
Now I'm gearing back up to finish some things, including the Infinity Orb run I've been planning, which I just put an interest thread up for in the classifieds section.
Finishing the Electromagnet Base jumped to the top of my to-do list when my own finished Infinity Orb very nearly rolled off the shelf I left it on. I revised my hinge design a bit, and exploded it out into parts for easy 3d printing, as seen below:
I'm going to be printing these in separate parts and then making a couple molds. My plan is to have each hinged flap be a single, solid cast piece when I'm done, and the middle will sandwich together in a two-piece assembly to close over the hinge pins on the flaps. It should fold up just fine. The only thing I'm debating is the actual scale of the electromagnet itself. I'm trying to eyeball it close to the scale it looks in the movie, and I'm 3d printing the middle bit right now to size it up. As soon as I'm sure I have the scale right, I'll be adding the files to the OP for download, and throwing it up on Shapeways as well.
Also: I got a PM asking about how to glue PLA prints, and I figured I'd answer the question in-thread in case anyone else was having a similar issue. My final helmet revision was assembled using a combination of hot glue, cyanoacrylate superglue, and JB Weld epoxy. The method's pretty straightforward - I apply superglue to both halves of the pieces being joined to start with. The superglue I use is basically this stuff, but my local hobby store has slapped their own brand on it. I love this glue. There's a very thin version that flows like water and has a blue label, but this stuff will set in about 10 seconds and won't run.
Once I have both parts glued along their seams, I press them together and apply hot glue to the back. The hot glue, in the case of the helmet, was used to allow the helmet a bit of flexibility while still attaching the parts, since I wasn't sure if it was going to fit my head. It also helps hold the pieces steady while the cyanoacrylate dries, which is very useful. Once the hot glue has set and the CA has had a chance to dry, I hit it with JB Weld Original. I squeeze out equal amounts onto a scrap piece of cardboard or something equally disposable, and mix with a tongue depressor for a few minutes. Then I use that same tongue depressor to paste the JB Weld over the hot glue and across the seam. The Original version of JB Weld takes 4-6 hours to set and about 24 hours to be at its' strongest. There is a 'Kwik' version that works in about a quarter of the time but doesn't end up quite as strong. Your mileage may vary, but I've had trouble getting the Kwik to stick as well to the PLA.
This is what the helmet looks like after all of the above:
It's very solid, and I could probably sit on it without any problems. Not that I would, but the point is it's wearable for cosplay if you wanted to just go with a straight 3d printed helmet. I'm going to try and make resin copies once I'm done, though, just to learn how!
Okay!
I took a bit of time off to attend to some things I had to do - a bit of healthcare related to my back, and also candidly a bit of Skyward Sword, since I ended up winning it on an eBay auction for cheap last week.
Now I'm gearing back up to finish some things, including the Infinity Orb run I've been planning, which I just put an interest thread up for in the classifieds section.Finishing the Electromagnet Base jumped to the top of my to-do list when my own finished Infinity Orb very nearly rolled off the shelf I left it on. I revised my hinge design a bit, and exploded it out into parts for easy 3d printing, as seen below:
I'm going to be printing these in separate parts and then making a couple molds. My plan is to have each hinged flap be a single, solid cast piece when I'm done, and the middle will sandwich together in a two-piece assembly to close over the hinge pins on the flaps. It should fold up just fine. The only thing I'm debating is the actual scale of the electromagnet itself. I'm trying to eyeball it close to the scale it looks in the movie, and I'm 3d printing the middle bit right now to size it up. As soon as I'm sure I have the scale right, I'll be adding the files to the OP for download, and throwing it up on Shapeways as well.
Also: I got a PM asking about how to glue PLA prints, and I figured I'd answer the question in-thread in case anyone else was having a similar issue. My final helmet revision was assembled using a combination of hot glue, cyanoacrylate superglue, and JB Weld epoxy. The method's pretty straightforward - I apply superglue to both halves of the pieces being joined to start with. The superglue I use is basically this stuff, but my local hobby store has slapped their own brand on it. I love this glue. There's a very thin version that flows like water and has a blue label, but this stuff will set in about 10 seconds and won't run.
Once I have both parts glued along their seams, I press them together and apply hot glue to the back. The hot glue, in the case of the helmet, was used to allow the helmet a bit of flexibility while still attaching the parts, since I wasn't sure if it was going to fit my head. It also helps hold the pieces steady while the cyanoacrylate dries, which is very useful. Once the hot glue has set and the CA has had a chance to dry, I hit it with JB Weld Original. I squeeze out equal amounts onto a scrap piece of cardboard or something equally disposable, and mix with a tongue depressor for a few minutes. Then I use that same tongue depressor to paste the JB Weld over the hot glue and across the seam. The Original version of JB Weld takes 4-6 hours to set and about 24 hours to be at its' strongest. There is a 'Kwik' version that works in about a quarter of the time but doesn't end up quite as strong. Your mileage may vary, but I've had trouble getting the Kwik to stick as well to the PLA.
This is what the helmet looks like after all of the above:
It's very solid, and I could probably sit on it without any problems. Not that I would, but the point is it's wearable for cosplay if you wanted to just go with a straight 3d printed helmet. I'm going to try and make resin copies once I'm done, though, just to learn how!
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Ein
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Re: Star Lord w/ lights and sound - Infinity Orb Base in Progress
Finished printing the middle section of the base and I think, just eyeballing it, I'm close to right with the scale.
Hard to judge without the flaps on it, but it's close. I printed it out in two parts - the idea is that the finished version will also be in two parts, and the flaps will be single pieces that have the hinges attached. They'll get sandwiched between the top and bottom of the middle part and should be able to turn without issue. The only adjustment I have to make is to the hole in the center where the orb sits, which is just slightly too big and allows the orb a little bit of wiggle. Sizing it down should make the orb sit snugly in place and keep it steady on a shelf where it belongs.
While I'm reprinting the middle, I may add a star lord logo to the underside. We'll see.
Finished printing the middle section of the base and I think, just eyeballing it, I'm close to right with the scale.
Hard to judge without the flaps on it, but it's close. I printed it out in two parts - the idea is that the finished version will also be in two parts, and the flaps will be single pieces that have the hinges attached. They'll get sandwiched between the top and bottom of the middle part and should be able to turn without issue. The only adjustment I have to make is to the hole in the center where the orb sits, which is just slightly too big and allows the orb a little bit of wiggle. Sizing it down should make the orb sit snugly in place and keep it steady on a shelf where it belongs.
While I'm reprinting the middle, I may add a star lord logo to the underside. We'll see.
Ein
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Re: Star Lord w/ lights and sound - Infinity Orb Base in Progress
Printed one of the hinge flaps and I think I'm close enough for scale purposes that I'm not going to worry about it.
It still hinges fine, as far as I can see.
Only part I'm not 100% pleased with is the fine piping that runs on the top side of the flap - it looks a bit lumpy. It may be one of those things that looks better with a coat of primer on, but I'm going to see if I can't sand some of it smoother. If that doesn't work, I'll probably try printing a blank one and hand-fabricating the little resistor-looking pipes.
Printed one of the hinge flaps and I think I'm close enough for scale purposes that I'm not going to worry about it.
It still hinges fine, as far as I can see.
Only part I'm not 100% pleased with is the fine piping that runs on the top side of the flap - it looks a bit lumpy. It may be one of those things that looks better with a coat of primer on, but I'm going to see if I can't sand some of it smoother. If that doesn't work, I'll probably try printing a blank one and hand-fabricating the little resistor-looking pipes.
Re: Star Lord w/ lights and sound - Infinity Orb Base in Progress
Brilliant.
Brilliant.
Ein
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Re: Star Lord w/ lights and sound - Infinity Orb Base in Progress
I have updated the OP with files for the Electromagnet Base, for anyone who wants 'em. I also threw em on Shapeways, but it's something like $130-140 to get the entire thing printed, which seems a bit higher than I would have expected. Still, figured I'd make the options available for anyone brave enough to try it.
I have updated the OP with files for the Electromagnet Base, for anyone who wants 'em. I also threw em on Shapeways, but it's something like $130-140 to get the entire thing printed, which seems a bit higher than I would have expected. Still, figured I'd make the options available for anyone brave enough to try it.
Crazybug00
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My print.https://atmail.optimum.net/mime.p
hp?file=photo1.JPG&whoscalling=xhtml. Thank you. 
( support structures have not been removed.)
hp?file=photo1.JPG&whoscalling=xhtml. Thank you. ( support structures have not been removed.)
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