So, no RPF love for the new pilot, Poe Dameron?

Discussion in 'Star Wars Costumes and Props' started by Double T, Apr 17, 2015.

  1. Double T

    Double T Well-Known Member

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    I haven't seen much information on his costume, thus far, just a handful of pictures I've nabbed off the 'net.

    ForceAwakensPilot3.jpg ForceAwakensPilot2.jpg
    ForceAwakensPilot1.jpg Ep-VII-X-Wing-Pilot.jpg

    Has anyone seen anything on this? Any ideas?

    Tony
     
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  2. Mara Jade's Father

    Mara Jade's Father Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Hey Tony! Yes, I hear you.

    Here is a picture I took and did a little work to as to take some of the blur out. It's a little crisper till we get something better.

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    I like what they did and I'm a fan. Personally, after the original trilogy X-Wing costume and all the time and expense to get that right, I'm going to go for the hands off approach.... Wait for Anovos to make theirs. :p
     
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  3. Double T

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    *laughs* Frank! I was going to put money on you being the first one to reply to this! Hell, I was hoping you'd have some stuff I overlooked!

    Mind if I grab that pic for my reference files? I've got a group of VERY hands-on folks here in Indianapolis that are chomping at the bit to get something like this put together.
     
  4. Mara Jade's Father

    Mara Jade's Father Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Please grab it.

    i might not be in the mood to make one, but it's always fun to talk about and consider options.

    I did did notice the buckles looked like the original trilogy ones except the sheet metal part looked bigger.
     
  5. Double T

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    My issue is, I haven't looked at X-Wing Gear in about 10 years. I'm just liking what looks to be a lack of greeblies inserted into pouches on the flight suit, leg harnesses that look a LOT easier to walk in, and a smaller chest box.
     
  6. Mara Jade's Father

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    Here is a shot with the boots (also reworked the image):

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  7. Mara Jade's Father

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    The buckles might be the same. Hard to tell because of the way the are pointing and the addition of the straps.

    the boots look like a type of duck book.

    Those straps... What are they suppose to do? From the look of it they seem to only hook to the belt plus outside the leg. On the OT version, I think the idea was that they attached to the vest (not in reality as we know they just pinned the strap to the suit. But it made some sense that maybe in an ejection, it kept the vest from slipping off over the head... like the straps on a parachute. However... I don't think they gave it much thought in The Empire Strikes Back because they ran the straps under the jacket which blows that theory.

    I know... I keep telling myself... Star Wars is fantasy not SciFi. Everything has its purpose and as fans, we have to believe that... I want to believe.
     
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  8. gunnerk19

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    I want. To see. His blaster.

    :D
     
  9. JHVanOphem

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    Hey Tony, great to see you here!

    I might be interested in doing the costume once we have a few more reference pictures.
     
  10. JHVanOphem

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    It looks like the vest closes in the front. It looks similar to the type of closure used for Kylo Ren.
     
  11. Blue Leader

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    I'm definitely digging the costume, though I do wish it had a bit more greeblies on the flightsuit, like Double T mentioned. There's even places for them, the left arm even has what looks like code cylinder loops... Maybe some other pilots will have them?
     
  12. Unfated

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    I can't say I'm a fan of the helmet. It looks like it's pressed into the cheeks, and also looks very uncomfortable.
     
  13. Mara Jade's Father

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    The helmet looks a lot like a cross between the X-Wing and A-Wing style helmets.
     
  14. TooMuchBBQ

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    The straps are, well, just to look piloty. In the real world they either hold the parachute to the pilot, or hold the pilot to the ejection seat, so I guess they would perform the same function with an X-Wing...somehow.

    I keep seeing motorcycle helmets with the cheek guards on them, so I'm guessing that's where they got the idea for that. The new helmet looks much more protective, but I agree also more uncomfortable.

    I am glad that the leather gaunlets and jackboots have gone away. I like the more modern look. I think it's also neat that they incorporated the ribbed sleeves from the snowspeeder jacket (and almost every other male SW jacket) into the flightsuit as well.
     
  15. Sluis Van Shipyards

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    I like it. I also like that they took the time to put Aurabesh writing, which actually says something other than gibberish, on it.
     
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  16. JHVanOphem

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    Not 100% sure, but I think the helmet base is a US Navy BPH-1. Replace the ear cups with the new style, and vac form in place.
     
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  17. Mara Jade's Father

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    hmmm... I see what you mean.

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  18. Riceball

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    Does anyone know if they had this costume on display at Celebration? Good pics from Celebration would go a long way for making out additional details as well as information on the materials used.

    Offhand, I think that whatever material was used for the base flightsuit is pretty heavy judging by the way it drapes and I'm think that this would be a hot costume to wear. My guess is that the suit is made from Nomex but that would be unnecessarily costly, a heavy cotton duck might be more likely.
     
  19. Mara Jade's Father

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    I can almost say with certainty that it was NOT on display. I have been on a lot of Star Wars related site this weekend and seen plenty of photos of Star Wars:TFA props and costumes on display and i have not seen anything Poe or Resistance Pilot displayed.
     
  20. Riceball

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    Pity, since all of the displays that I've seen from Celebration have a plaque listing the materials used.
     
  21. Mara Jade's Father

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    Maybe they will have it next time in London. BTW.. I would like to correct my statement:

    ...I have not seen anything Poe or Resistance Pilot displayed... except for the model X-Wing.
     
  22. fotofixer72

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    The Force Awakens exhibit didn't have the resistance (rebel) pilot costume unfortunately. It had: the First Order (empire) Flametrooper, Snowtrooper and Stormtrooper. Kylo Ren, Rey and Finn. Kylo RENs Lightsaber. Models of the new X-wing and millennium falcon. BB-8. And 2 misc desert planet costumes.
     
  23. Double T

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    This is what I get for not being able to get on here since I got off work Friday night! This thread has movement!

    I was disappointed to see there was no pilot costume pieces at Celebration, but I'm hoping they will get some more stuff out soon, even from Anovos.
     
  24. Got Maul

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    Would it be crazy to tell you that we're already working on a a prototype from the original material used from the same companies ?

    *winking at you Frank.
     
  25. gizmo

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    I really like this helmet and could see myself buying one. This the new tie helmet and Kylo mask. :)


    Ben
     
  26. Mara Jade's Father

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    Wait... Are you hitting on me? :p

    That's great to hear. I'll be waiting and watching.
     
  27. Got Maul

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    At this point, you can always assume that Frank.
     
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  28. Mara Jade's Father

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    Just adding another pic for reference:

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  29. SmilingFox

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    I was just going to post this pic. It is the best shot of the boots so far. I have been pretty excited about this costume. I think it is probably the best one I have seen from the teasers, especially after seeing how uncomfortable the new stormtroopers look.

    I believe I found the base boot. Check these out and see what you guys think. I found them on eBay. I am sure they are a knock off of whatever boot was screen used but it is pretty cheap and seems very close.

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  30. ywingfighter

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    Hard to say what boots it is but it looks to me more similar to this one. muckerboots.JPG
     
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  31. KaanE

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    Both of them have the exact same sole, right?
     
  32. SmilingFox

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    Both boots look to be the same from the shaft down, and the second set looks to be a bit closer as far as the shaft itself. Looking at the photo of Poe walking toward the camera though, the boots he wears doesn't look to be that tall though. Perhaps there is a happy medium between the two, shorter shaft but similar.
     
  33. KaanE

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    But the trousers are ON the boots, so you don't really see how tal they are...
     
  34. cayman shen

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    You can tell from his bent leg where his trousers hit the top of the boot, roughly.
     
  35. eagle eye

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    I can't help but feel as if the side of the helmet is a cover for something. You can see an exposed bracket right by where the lenses are. Also I believe the orange lens is from a snowmobile modular helmet
     
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  36. Mara Jade's Father

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    from what has been shown, I would lean toward this one. Note the main area is lighter in color than the shaft, just like in the recent photo.

    what kind and brand boot is this!

    Boots are going to be an issue because even if you buy you suit/gear from Anovos, you still need to provide your own boots (based on current offerings).
     
  37. JHVanOphem

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    Kind is easy, they are mucker boots.

    The problem is which exact model. It appears the main part of the boot is extremely common, probably Chinese made, but the shaft is what we need more reference pictures of. There are 100s existing styles all with the same base.

    One other problem is the toe cap. The boot in the film has a smooth cap, and the close matches I've seen all have horizontal ridges.
     
  38. ywingfighter

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    I had buy a pair from ebay UK. You can remove the inner padding so the boots looks not so high.

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MENS-BLAC...eb3859e&pid=100033&rk=1&rkt=4&sd=321573623584



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  39. Mara Jade's Father

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    The horizontal ridges maybe there but just obscured by low resolution. I've seen that plenty of times in the past. The best pict of the toes so far is the one with Poe walking toward the camera, and even the original image was not very crisp. The image i posted earlier in this thread was photoshopped for a crisper look. So very possible that detailing could have been lost.

    But I agree that there are a lot of boots with similar bases. I think the only details about the shaft so far is that it is blacker than the base and the top is not very close fitting based on the image hanging off the X-Wing and how the leg of the appears.
     
  40. bh1138

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    If you look at a higher res version of that Vanity Fair pic, there are definitely horizontal lines on the toe.

    i8yHGB2.jpg
     
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  41. Mara Jade's Father

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    Cool! Thanks!

    Cleaned out the text.

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  42. SmilingFox

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    From a costuming point of view, I don't think the shaft is going to be a big issue. The pant legs are quite long and unless you are climbing onto your X-Wing, shouldn't show too much. I think the mucker boots probably are a bit closer to the correct shade besides being too tall. Either boot will probably be passable.
     
  43. SmilingFox

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    i8yHGB22.jpg

    Here it is, blown up a bit.
     
  44. JHVanOphem

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    Well then the smooth toe cap was a lie!

    As for the top of the boot it looks to not very tall, 6-inch at most? It looks to be black in colour, any guesses on the material?
     
  45. eagle eye

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    Those appear to be the right boots. I have a pair and it matches the back as far as pattern but not material you just can't see it from that angle. It does look like maybe the material might be different for just those parts. Its kind of hard to explain. The adam driver is really telling now that we know what we know. It looks like the flight suit didn't fit him right. and you can see most of the boot. Driver_3040986b.jpg
     
  46. Peep Williams

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    I for one REALLY REALLY like this costume. The only thing I'm not quite sold on is the helmet from the front perspective. From the side it looks great though.

    If there's any costume so far from the new movie I'd have an interest in owning it's this pilot suit. Fits right in with the 30 years of improvement look. I look forward to seeing everyone's progress in dissecting the suit.
     
  47. SmilingFox

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    With that picture, even from the distance, it looks like the mucker shaft material, just not the same height. I suppose you could cut them down but it really doesn't seem like a big deal unless Poe is the only character that doesn't tuck his pants in. I hate to think that is the case though, I think they look much better out of the boots.
     
  48. Mara Jade's Father

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    That picture to blurry to confirm height. To me it either looks like his pants are shorter.... Or... He has them tucked into the boots but then blouses over to cover the tops.

    I think the mucker boots pictured are pretty consistent with what we see in the photos through the pant legs.

    Also note the other pilot in the first post does not tuck his pant legs.

    btw: military pilots this day and age are required to tuck their boots and gloves under their flight suit. Otherwise in a crash, those items can act like funnels and allow flammable liquid to get to your skin.
     
  49. RexKramer

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    They more than likely used the entire rubber bottom section and added their own custom upper.
     
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