Snowtrooper Ab/ Han's Hoth communicator DIsk **Discovered Info on Page 5, post 115***

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  1. Lt Washburn

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    Re: Snowtrooper Ab/ Han's Hoth communicator DIsk **Discovered Info on Page 5, post 11

    Great pics! Can you transcribe the text on the back? I can read some of it, but not all.
     
  2. Clutch

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    Re: Snowtrooper Ab/ Han's Hoth communicator DIsk **Discovered Info on Page 5, post 11

    I'm pretty sure these were used on Giger's ALIEN suit as well. Pic of a toy because I couldn't find good online references:

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  3. blewis17

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    Re: Snowtrooper Ab/ Han's Hoth communicator DIsk **Discovered Info on Page 5, post 11

    Makes sense... awesome find!
     
  4. OdiWan72

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    Re: Snowtrooper Ab/ Han's Hoth communicator DIsk **Discovered Info on Page 5, post 11

    ...these are also found on the Alien environmental helmets ;)

    BTW: I received an email from the turkish shop, stating that they received my order, but have to determine shipping charges...fingers crossed. ;)
     
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  5. portland182

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    Re: Snowtrooper Ab/ Han's Hoth communicator DIsk **Discovered Info on Page 5, post 11

    Wow! Whereabouts on the helmet?

    Jim
     
  6. tubachris85x

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    Re: Snowtrooper Ab/ Han's Hoth communicator DIsk **Discovered Info on Page 5, post 11

    Upper-left temple area (wearer's left)
     
  7. geordietrooper

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    Re: Snowtrooper Ab/ Han's Hoth communicator DIsk **Discovered Info on Page 5, post 11

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  8. tubachris85x

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    Re: Snowtrooper Ab/ Han's Hoth communicator DIsk **Discovered Info on Page 5, post 11

    Well, thought it was the other side lol

    Looking at this now, though, it doesn't seem that they removed the backing of the thermostat before attaching it to the helmet, given the spacing
     
  9. tubachris85x

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    Re: Snowtrooper Ab/ Han's Hoth communicator DIsk **Discovered Info on Page 5, post 11

    Unfortunately the 3d scanning this weekend didn't work out well, but that was more due to technical difficulties, so going to see if someone else can get them 3d scanned
     
  10. OdiWan72

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    Re: Snowtrooper Ab/ Han's Hoth communicator DIsk **Discovered Info on Page 5, post 11

    Chris aka Field Marshall could do it and would surely be able to offer affordable metal discs for the prop-community :thumbsup
     
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  11. tubachris85x

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    IDK his means or tools, but we're looking to do stamped metal pieces instead of machined metal like what all metal replicas have been for this piece. The stamped versions would be more accurate, and reflect the nuance details that I don't think could be reproduced via machining. To add, there's a very small detail on the face of the disc that I believe is a result of the stamping process that is not apparent in photos, at least from what I have seen in my research.

    But the 3d file, once made, will be open source..
     
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  12. ataru72ita

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    Re: Snowtrooper Ab/ Han's Hoth communicator DIsk research***ON HAND!!!***

    FYI SpA stands for "Società Per Azioni", which means that the Italian firm is quoted and registered in the Italian Stock Exchange.
    Regards,

    this is the Bloomberg company profile:
    https://www.bloomberg.com/profiles/companies/4236877Z:IM-vebe-elettromeccanica-spa

    says it was founded back in 1984, and sells precision measurement accessories.

    Alberto
     
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  13. Lt Washburn

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    Re: Snowtrooper Ab/ Han's Hoth communicator DIsk **Discovered Info on Page 5, post 11

    I've seen that on Italian companies before, thanks for the info!
     
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    Re: Snowtrooper Ab/ Han's Hoth communicator DIsk **Discovered Info on Page 5, post 11

    Curious to see if the rest of those assemblies are found elsewhere in the films.
     
  15. voice in the crowd

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    Re: Snowtrooper Ab/ Han's Hoth communicator DIsk **Discovered Info on Page 5, post 11

    Hi Guys,

    Just a quickie.

    Obviously the thermocouple disc is now an identified part but see the T shaped part on the AB section of the Snowtrooper is that a well known found part?

    Just curious as I think I have some.

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  16. Pedro

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    Re: Snowtrooper Ab/ Han's Hoth communicator DIsk **Discovered Info on Page 5, post 11

    Slider for an audio mixer if I remember correctly.
     
  17. voice in the crowd

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    Re: Snowtrooper Ab/ Han's Hoth communicator DIsk **Discovered Info on Page 5, post 11

    Thanks.

    Sure that is where I got mine from as well.
     
  18. tubachris85x

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    Re: Snowtrooper Ab/ Han's Hoth communicator DIsk **Discovered Info on Page 5, post 11

    Just got the Uher 500 in the other day. Didn't get a chance to post sooner

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  19. Pedro

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    Re: Snowtrooper Ab/ Han's Hoth communicator DIsk **Discovered Info on Page 5, post 11

    Whoah! That's actually a really slick looking mixer! I had not yet seen a picture of it. It's apparently also somewhat coveted for its sound. Now I understand how camera guys feel about us! ;) Nice score!
     
  20. tubachris85x

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    Re: Snowtrooper Ab/ Han's Hoth communicator DIsk **Discovered Info on Page 5, post 11

    They're fortunately for the moment not too hard to find but I fear that may change due to folks buying them up to pull sliders off. In keeping mine intact for display purposes
     
  21. voice in the crowd

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    Re: Snowtrooper Ab/ Han's Hoth communicator DIsk **Discovered Info on Page 5, post 11


    That is the same one I have.

    I ripped mine to pieces just to make sure there were no more decent greeblies inside it.

    There isn't :(
     
  22. voice in the crowd

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    Re: Snowtrooper Ab/ Han's Hoth communicator DIsk **Discovered Info on Page 5, post 11

    tubachris85x I was watching The Empire Strikes Back the other day and noticed that one of these greeblies is definitely used in the Millennium Falcon cockpit.

    Best picture I have of it - it is much clearer on screen.

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  23. geordietrooper

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    Re: Snowtrooper Ab/ Han's Hoth communicator DIsk **Discovered Info on Page 5, post 11

    i think a few of the discs have been spotted in the falcon, pic was posted in this thread post 25 1st page
     
  24. tubachris85x

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    Re: Snowtrooper Ab/ Han's Hoth communicator DIsk **Discovered Info on Page 5, post 11

    Yea, that's a good picture. I recall there being one clear pic where it was much more clearly visible which is where I remember first learning it was on that set piece.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Wanted to note that I haven't produced molds yet...I am unfortunately "between jobs" at the moment. Once I get my situation rectified, I'll revisit making molds
     
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  25. tubachris85x

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    Just updating this

    I will be ordering silicone early next month in order to get molds for these. I loaned out one of the thermostats to a vendor to produce molds for his kits, and I should be getting that piece back hopefully this week. I'd very much like to be able to mold both of them at the same time and so I can knock out more than one at a time.

    I decided that my soon to be casts will be cold-cast aluminum, and will not be altered from it's original form, i.e., you're getting a copy of how it actually is, and I'm expecting each to be about $5 each, so it won't break anyone's bank.

    Oddly enough, last night, I found another thermostat on ebay, and have secured it. It is not in the greatest condition and frankly no good for any actual prop use, but I decided to get it anyways for my collection. It's got what (I thought was paint) but speculated to be limescale and deterioration due to rust on part of it, but it's the same make/model as the ones I found in South Africa, however, with a white plastic backing, and not a black one.

    -TC
     
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  26. OdiWan72

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    Great news TC...IN for a couple of the coldcast discs :)
     
  27. tubachris85x

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    I got a wedding and honeymoon to fund, so I need to sell a lot of these lol
     
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    I'm in for a bouquets worth
     
  29. tubachris85x

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    It's a shame I missed Valentines Day
     
  30. tubachris85x

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    So a follow on from my other update post. I mentioned that I had found another thermostat on Ebay the other night after feeling compelled to search. This is a pic of that one I found (below). Of course, it's got some...issues. Nonetheless,it's still a collectible to me.

    So, after paying for this and him packing it up for shipping, I sent him another message asking if by chance he remembered 'exactly' where he sourced it. He confirmed he got it from "some kind of washer" appliance, as he said he couldn't recall. I responded confirming that it was indeed a dishwasher thermostat, and I was hoping he'd been able to remember a specific brand or model. That was last night.

    Not too long ago, though, messaging me that he gave it more thought, and while he still couldn't remember the exact origins, he said he *thought* he may have had another one sitting in his loft (I assume he meant his attic). He went out of his way to check, and sure enough, he found what he was looking for, claiming it's "very similar" and that it "still" has it's rubber gasket on it. Now, he claims it's nearly identical, and while the lot I bought from him had other klixon pieces I didn't need, he re-opened the package, took one I didn't need out, and threw the one he had found sitting in his attic, and said he just made it in time to get dropped off for delivery.

    I felt that was very kind and generous to do, given he did not even have to do ANY of that for me, especially for such a low price lot.

    So, it is very possible that it is indeed another matching thermostat model. He said "very similar" in the first line, but then said "almost identical" in the later line of message....so right now it's a 50/50 on whether or not it truly is another one. I sent a follow-up message thanking him for it, and threw in a question (3 dots on the top?) in there, but we'll see once I get the package in next month.

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    He confirmed the one he found also has "3 raised dots"

    So that gives much higher hope it is indeed another actual thermostat like I need.
     
  32. thd9791

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    it may say "Master Member" under your name, but you are a master hunter, especially for these thermostats
     
  33. tubachris85x

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    Lol I think The Ninja has me beat there but I do have an edge on these particular pieces
     
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  34. tubachris85x

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    Received my new Snowtrooper armor from Laws today. I didnt mention it before but I loaned him one of my thermostats to produce molds from to use for his kits.

    It's nice to see some forward movement and this is a very clean cast

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  35. The Ninja

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    Thank you for the kind words, this prop has not been on my collection radar but I am now following, congrats on the cool finds (y)
     
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  36. Kovnyn

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    I'll be game for a half dozen when you get the molds done.
     
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  37. tubachris85x

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    Well I can say I really lucked out again.

    The wildcard piece was certainly something I was stressing over but when I opened the package and unraveled the bubble wrap seeing this gorgeous piece, I was giddy. I then realized I'm possibly the absolutely lone person to get this excited about some really old and dirty dishwasher thermostats.

    I've never seen these with a rubber gasket before in all my research so this is something new to me. It quite certainly suggests that the thermostat is installed inside the main compartment of the washer that gets filled with water. And yes, this rubber gasket is kind of gross. I will be cleaning both up. Fortunately, the original one I feared had corrosion indeed does not. Just a layer of crud that needs to be scrubbed off. It appears to possibly be some kind of limescale, so I think a vinegar bath will do the trick.

    I am now thinking once I clean them up and get my one loaner back, I can mold all 4 at once together.

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  38. BipeFlyer

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    I think I found a source for brand new ones in France. I tried purchasing 4, bit it would not accept either of my credit cards. If someone manages to purchase some could they PLEASE order a few for me?

    I really hope this is the jackpot it looks like it could be.


    EDIT:
    I removed the link because something seems fishy. Google "Eaton 9160000 4 Tag T120 2A 250v 123948, Capacitor or Thermostat" if you want to take a look and see if it looks legit. It's not the one on eBay.
     
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  39. Kovnyn

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    It wouldn't take my cards either. Bummer.
     
  40. BipeFlyer

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    Something doesn't feel right. I hope I didn't just post a scam site. I locked my cards in case. Geez, I hope this site is legit.
     
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  41. Kovnyn

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    The domain name is legit, so I don't think you should have a problem with your cards. I think maybe the reject was either because of the origin of the sale, France versus US, or that the item was sold and something wasn't updated and got lost is translation. The eBay listing of the exact same part used the same photo and same description.

    Hopefully it was someone on the RPF that won the auction.
     
  42. geordietrooper

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    it took took my payment info and it seemed to drift off to hong kong then crash the page, then i googled the customer service email and it definitely looks like a scam :sick:

    on the actual website it does say ( Transaction Message: high risk refuses )
    the order page says ( Payment Fail )
     
  43. geordietrooper

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    i found another website and they both seem to be using pictures from that old eBay auction
    so stay away run for the hills (n)
     
  44. tubachris85x

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    Yea guys that's an old Ebay sale. It was sold shortly after we found them last year. Theres a bunch of sites that aggregate Ebay listings, new or old, to act like a middle man so to speak
     
  45. Kovnyn

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    So I just checked my credit card and I had already it deactivated, so that might be a reason it rejected. Should be safe.
     
  46. division 6

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    A few years ago I tried to make a purchase from the UK and it was rejected.

    I was then called by my bank and told that the (US) government doesn't want money going out to foreign countries.

    I didn't have any problems using PayPal.
     
  47. BipeFlyer

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    Sorry to sidetrack the thread. At least we know that new ones exist; somewhere.
     
  48. tubachris85x

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    Well, actually, the ones you guys were looking at is from the company called "EATON" and was made sometime later in the 80s. I reached out to EATON asking about this particular piece and I received a response that they sold it off to another electronics company (no specified date). I need to follow up with that company to see if they have anything new
     
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    I just shot a message to the other company now and will see what they say. If they had made any (I haven't seen one from them yet) it certainly would not be vintage, but if it helps lead to finding more, I don't think I'll complain.
     
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    Took a bit of time to clean these guys up but happy with the results. Hard to tell in the pic but I took some aluminum polish to the one on the right and is nice and shiny.

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