Snowtrooper Ab/ Han's Hoth communicator DIsk **Discovered Info on Page 5, post 115***

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  1. tubachris85x

    tubachris85x Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    I know there's not really been any advancement on this part identification, but I'd like to at least establish another research thread.

    So far I've searched through:

    - Old/vintage water pumps (caps/plates/seals/covers)
    - water "tri-gate" covers, but probably too small
    - Knockout plugs/seals, general and aircraft search (closer to what it might be)
    - aircraft Instrument gauge backplates or covers
    - vintage candy cans, containers, cases
    - Rolls Royce aircraft engines (sans merlin and gremlin)
    - WW2 Era aircraft parts
    - Battery holders (like for watch battery sizes)
    - Medicinal purposes
    - Spring retaining cap/cover
    - Transistor holder/plate (of some kind)
    - Norelco/phillips razor related searches (unlikely as the packaging has been flat or open and these would more than likely be too large for this piece)

    Probably a lot more than I can actually remember.

    I'm at the point now where I think it's better suited we focus on the probable function that this piece had. It's clearly formed to cover and or hold a 3 piece circular object. I'm still leaning toward something mechanically related.

    Too add, I think that since it has a large-outer "lip" suggests to me that it's placed into a slot from the inside-out, leaving that formed 3-circle detail to be exposed

    Alternatively, I'm curious to identify what the technical process or name is for adding this notch is? I think identifying that aspect of the part would push us closer to discovering it's real function, as perhaps that added feature is served for a specific area of industry.

    ab disk notch.png

    Anyone got any ideas?
     
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  2. PoopaPapaPalps

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    Re: Snowtrooper Ab/ Han's Hoth communicator DIsk research

    A part of me thinks this is like a focusing apparatus for a lens to a camera. You know, like those old ones with the three lens mount in the front. I would imagine the dimples would be to help lock the lens in place when it's turned. This is all me guessing though.
     
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  3. Stormie

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    Re: Snowtrooper Ab/ Han's Hoth communicator DIsk research

    Kinda looks like apart of a small speaker.
     
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    Interesting suggestion, I'll look into that!

    I was also thinking along those lines as well. We know that the Slider Knobs, or the "T"-Greeblies originate from the Uher stereo mixer, so audio equipment used is not out of the realm of possibilities
     
  5. tubachris85x

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    Bump. Still looking
     
  6. thd9791

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    Re: Snowtrooper Ab/ Han's Hoth communicator DIsk research

    Since this looks like a hollow or bowl shaped metal piece, are we sure that's not just a dent?
     
  7. tubachris85x

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    A dent...?
     
  8. thd9791

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    Well sure, the first lower ridge is even bent in, to me that looks like damage to soft metal like alumiunm.
     
  9. tubachris85x

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    I'm not sure how you think this is simply a "dent." It's clearly a stamped metal piece with a purpose. Never mind the fact that many more of these pieces were used not just else where on other snowtrooper costumes, star wars props, sets, etc. but even on the ALIEN costume and a Nostromo helmet.

    These aren't "accidental" pieces
     
  10. thd9791

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    Hey man, I was just going by the first post - and I know Star Wars put everything into resin - but the new movies are news to me. Got any pics of the other props? this is really neat.
     
  11. kurtyboy

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    Re: Snowtrooper Ab/ Han's Hoth communicator DIsk research

    Is there only one of those notches on it, or are there three or four around the piece?
     
  12. cbrant

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    Re: Snowtrooper Ab/ Han's Hoth communicator DIsk research

    You two are on different pages.

    Chris, I believe thd9791 was referring to the notched area as possibly being a dent, NOT implying that the whole shape is some random shape created by dent.
     
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  13. Wavey

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    Re: Snowtrooper Ab/ Han's Hoth communicator DIsk research

    Tumble dryer or washing machine thermostats have a very similar crimp/dent to keep the housing on. I think someone mentioned this years ago but I don't know if it was ever found.

    tumble dryer thermostat2.jpg
     
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    Yep, thanks guys, sorry for the misunderstanding.
     
  15. tubachris85x

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    My apologies for sounding harsh in my last comment. I was pretty fired up yesterday at the time due to a certain "announcement" on the news...

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    This is actually a very plausible idea. I was searching for these last night and overall the basic design is very much like the piece in question. I did further digging and what these are referred to as "Snap Discs"

    I am now starting to believe that the piece we're looking for is not an aircraft related piece at all. I have been too focused on WW2 aircraft and rolls-royce parts
     
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  16. Wavey

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    That's soooooo easily done though, lol.
     
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  17. tubachris85x

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    The problem with the snap disc/dryer thermostats is that the top portions are clearly very similar to the snowtrooper disc, but need to have "3" terminal/poles, something I cannot seem to find.

    The other idea is that this is suppose to be a selector dial/knob. The "emergency" helmet in ALIEN had one of these very same pieces affixed to the side of the helmet. The prop-store photos of the screen used helmet shows that the disc fell off from where it was at some point, leaving a hole at it's center.

    This could mean that it had it's own built in threading or bolt that stuck out of the disc itself, which means it was attached to something that very much rotated
     
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  18. Inquisitor Peregrinus

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    Re: Snowtrooper Ab/ Han's Hoth communicator DIsk research

    After PoopaPoppaPalps mentioned it, had you looked into three-lens-turret cameras at all? Something like this...

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    --Jonah
     
  19. tubachris85x

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    Yes but the problem with that is the piece in question dowant have any holes. Plus the size of the lenses would have to be incredibly small. Only way it'd make sense is if you had a micro size camera with 3 lenses placed symmetrically together
     
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    Bumping this up...
     
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    Re: Snowtrooper Ab/ Han's Hoth communicator DIsk research

    Ah... I didn't realize the scanner and the communicator were the same thing, my bad.
     
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  24. Lt Washburn

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    Re: Snowtrooper Ab/ Han's Hoth communicator DIsk research

    I know you already mentioned battery holders, but instead of watch batteries, what about these type?

    s-l1000.jpg

    Look at the top right of the picture, inside of the holder. It seems generally familiar, and maybe some hunting would show more similar examples.
     
  25. thd9791

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    there's one in the falcon!
    vlcsnap-2017-01-31-18h12m46s11.jpg
     
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  26. OdiWan72

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    Necro bump....maybe anybody made new discoveries?
     
  27. tubachris85x

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    Wish I could say. I spent many weeks searching online. So many things I don't care to learn about were learned. My mind gets fried after awhile
     
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  28. grimsheeper

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    Re: Snowtrooper Ab/ Han's Hoth communicator DIsk research

    Ok so I have recently started looking into this and appear to have gone down a different avenue to you guys....

    Firstly I was trying to discover the source of the Hoth Commpad part...I realised they would probably have had a lot of them as they were used a fair bit.

    Looked at old vintage vending machines after seeing the Lando communicator with it on and wondered if that's what it looked like originally... made me thing it was a pull plunger or something as the brand/selection image would be angled likle that...

    vending.JPG

    Got me wondering if the part had a grille and was to contain a bulb, as modern projector bulbs have that grille too. I would think this would be a light enclosure under the brand selection which lit up when the rod was pulled... I've seen pictures of an old Malborough vendo with some of the brand pictures missing and there is a space underneath for light to come through. One of the nobs was missing from the end of the rods and it also looked like the end of Lando's communicator

    2934497430_2a8d9e65b6_b.jpg

    The whole mechanism and angle of the thing looks like it could be this inside :

    lando_comlink.jpg

    When looking for this part i saw an old CocaCola vending machine with this retrieval hole :

    pqwHJ67HpWgs04GmhQ1Weg.jpg

    I'm probably barking up the wrong tree, but I have been looking into it. I have found some 1950's model cocacola machines but doesnt appear to be anything massively available like a Revell kit (which sounds odd i know)...

    Also on my list is sourcing the chassis for the Hoth Scanner, which initially I thought might be a wax paper/sanitary towel/paper towel dispenser as I have found some with the '+' shape opening at the bottom, but nothing's come up yet. Again whilst looking for this I saw some gumball machines with chassis' that looked similar but nothing came up.

    So then I got on to gumball spare parts and noticed that all gumball machines had this 3-ring selector engine/housing.. not realy sure what it is. Stands to reason that this would need to be enclosed from one side say with a circular cap with 3 rounded bumps???

    $_57.JPG

    I just get this feeling all these things are connected...

    Nick
     
  29. tubachris85x

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    That wasn't a bad lead to be honest, but the only thing, in terms of the gumball parts is that the gumballs would need to be pretty small. I think we're down the right path concerning it being related but so many possible pieces this thing could be from :/
     
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  30. grimsheeper

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    Well I don't know about the US but gumballs in the UK werent that big! The Hoth scanner is quite big, we could do with some rough proportion guidelines here!

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  31. tubachris85x

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    Bleh, I was never into hard candy to begin with


    As for the disc itself, I'd say you're looking at a total diameter of about 2.5" inches across, give or take, just based on my experience.
     
  32. grimsheeper

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    I have a fidget spinner in front of me. Its about 2.5" wide...

    Fidget-Spinner-Tri-Spinning-Stress-Reducer-02.jpg

    each disc on the outside measures 7/8". Even at this far apart wasting all that space in the middle it means the "gumball" would be pretty big! Dunno how big gumballs are in the US, bit we called them "gobstoppers" here and they were about that big!
     
  33. PropWeasel

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    I looked and looked for a year. I just ended up drawing it in CAD IMG_0565 (1).jpg IMG_0650.jpg
     
  34. SPY007

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    I posted on the your scanner build page. I recall reading years ago, the discs were part of a pack of 3 small flat batteries. I think it would be pretty easy to make a small press and make these out of thin aluminum, which is what they appear to made from...
     
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  35. grimsheeper

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    *.. they looks nice! I'd love to build one but there's so many parts to find and I have no sources

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  36. tubachris85x

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    Eh that hasn't been discovered. It'd have to be some really obscure brand that did that as all of the battery packs I saw of that time frame is packed no differently than what we see today

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    Getting a replica is no problem. I just want to find the real thing
     
  37. PropWeasel

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    I would love to find the real thing, been searching, but in the meantime I really want this prop :)
     
  38. PropWeasel

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    We also have to ourselves in the 1975 frame of mind. It does look like the size of a AA battery but as a child of the 70's they were rarely used. Everything was C or D. Maybe watch batteries but they tend to be thinner ( now not sure about 40 years ago). But something tells me that it is a battery cap of some kind.
     
  39. telchar

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    I know I may be barking up the wrong tree here, but could this be an accessory for something like a kids easy bake oven?
    Like a tiny idli tray? Just a thought.
     
  40. Irken Tech

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    The modern snap disc thermostat looks really close. Maybe a vintage aircraft thermostat cover? Similar to a Klixon C4370 thermostat which has the three circles.
     
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    hmmmm Worth chasing , they did use a lot of airplane parts.
     
  42. tubachris85x

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    This is one of the things I've been looking at for awhile. The Klixon gives the style to suggest, and snap disks have that overall appearance, but I've not seen anything standalone from the standard single, flat top w/ side mounting flange.

    I really believe that this disc design is more of a decorative than a functional as it seems most plugs, caps, etc. all maintain a simple, plain design.
     
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  43. grimsheeper

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    is the term not "crimping" ?
     
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  45. telchar

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    Have any of the rest of the parts been identified?
    My thought is, since these are all found bits, could they have come off of
    the same whatever? I know as a random oddments collector, I often throw the bits into the same box.
    The top of the Hoth scanner has some unique parts as well...
     
  46. tubachris85x

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    I found the disc!!! I finally found it!!!! I have to secure it first but i found it!!! I will update!!
     
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    I’m glad you were able to find it! I spent quite a bit of time one day looking for it for you.
     
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    Awesome.
     
  49. tubachris85x

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    9 years for me..oh god. It better end here. If I can't get my hands on these because of technical issues I'm going to be so *
     
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    Intrigued!!

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