Singer talking about X-MEN ORIGINS: FIRST CLASS

[KnightAsylum]

A blurb about the new film from CBR article, some updates related to Thor, Green Lantern, and others in the article as well...
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=25296


X-MEN ORIGINS: FIRST CLASS

Bryan Singer tells The Los Angeles Times the fractured relationship between Professor Xavier and Magneto will be a key aspect of the film. "Just doing younger mutants is not enough. The story needs to be more than that. I love the relationship between Magneto and Xavier, these two men who have diametrically opposite points of view but still manage to be friends -- to a point. They are the ultimate frenemies." The film is expected to feature the moment the two men became adversaries and the founding of the School for Gifted Youngsters. The article suggests Singer may also take on an "X-Men 4" and possibly the "Wolverine" sequel; provided the director can find time in his busy schedule.

 

[Solo4114]

Wonder just how much retconning will be involved in these films...

 

[Qui-Gonzalez]

About as much as the comics by the looks of it.

 

[darthgordon]

I wonder who they can get to play these roles... I mean later we can still go with the original actors, but who will play them young?

 

[Too Much Garlic]

I wonder who they can get to play these roles... I mean later we can still go with the original actors, but who will play them young?

We saw them young in X-Men 3.

 

[micdavis]

You don't suppose they'd try to "young them up" for a whole movie, like they did for Xavier and Magneto in X-3?

 

[darthgordon]

I think that would be really expensive to do... and it looked horrible in Wolverine, but I haven't figured out if Patrick Stewart even did that scene or they just cut and pasted a picture of him.

 

[Too Much Garlic]

Yeah. There's a whole world of mutants... why concentrate on those we've already seen. Actually... I thought news of Singer returning to X-Men would get my jives up... but his departure for that trainwreck Superman Returns has just left me fairly... well... numb.

I don't need to see how or why they broke apart. Always found that such things are best left alone. We already know they parted ways... so... what on Earth could the writers create that would make us viewers get involved and care for what's happening. They'll likely not dare to go as far as such a break requires anyway. And it has already been fairly clearly explained why Eric Lensherr became so radical - he was shaped by his past experiences and the tragic irony is that he adopted the ruthless convictions and methods of the Nazis. The oppressed becomes the oppressor. We've already gotten that pretty much established in the movies... there's really no need to see the slow turn to radicalism and the breaking of the bond and friendship with Charles Xavier.

Wolverine is the poster child for everyone wanting to do mutant stories about X-Men... but he's beginning to grow boring. Also because they are not pushing him to where he's supposed to be. They don't have the guts to show him as he really is... all we get is a watered down house pet with claws. He's supposed to be a berserker who charges right into a gun fight without flinching or second thought.

I always thought Xavier was a really boring character, but interesting in the sense that he's all brains and barely any body, confined to a wheelchair because of his own overconfidence in his abilities in his youth.

All these characters are flawed, their powers are a blessing and a curse... it's full of pain to do what they do, but they do it because they feel they have to.

And to think they wasted Dark Phoenix like they did... the destroyer of worlds. Just watched X-Men 3 recently. The first hour was pretty decent and tolerable... but then they just dropped the ball and had the most powerful weapon and most emotionally distraught character in the world just stand around like a dope and wasting all the rest of the story on Magneto's stupid little battle. The introduction of Dark Phoenix should have made EVERYTHING ELSE become unimportant... as the cure is simply nothing compared to what she could do. They just blew it. First hour works... the rest sucks.

Grimey.

 

[Solo4114]

X-men 3 is crap. Too much going on, too much fan service, too many characters, it just suffered from all the cliches about bad 3rd-entry superhero movies where the studio things that "embiggening" the film makes it better somehow. It didn't. It was just an incoherent mess.

I don't think subsequent films will be particularly entertaining either. I skipped Wolverine: origins, and will skip this First class thing, too. Probably skip the new Spidey film as well.


Honestly, Marvel's movies have been largely hit and miss with me. You get a few hits (X-men 1 & 2, Spidey 1 & 2, Iron Man), but a whoooooole lot of misses (the Punisher films, the Hulk films, the FF films, Daredevil, Elektra, Xmen 3, Spidey 3, Wolvie, etc.)



Oh, and Wolverine? Walking cliche. Has been for a LONG time.

 

[Too Much Garlic]

Yeah... and the origins story. I really hoped we would see that animal with claws that Stryker was talking about in the second movie... but he just turned out to be an even bigger ***** than after the head trauma.

Sorta like seeing the whiny brat Anakin instead of the hero and good friend of Obi-Wan in the prequels.

WAAAAAAASTE.

 

[MooMooEgg]

The one thing that intrigues me about First Class is having an X-Men film WITHOUT Wolverine. I'm sick and tired of the Jackman Wolverine. I'm not opposed to seeing the character brought into a First Class sequel, but at least make him a beast and mainly a soldier and weapon of destruction. I think Wolverine is best when he's a background character there to toughen up assault teams and do the things the "clean" heroes don't want to do.

just my two cents.

 

[KnightAsylum]

Update -
"Deadline reports Bryan Singer will produce the film, but pass directing duties to another person. "He is leaving because Fox liked the script that Jamie Moss wrote from Singer's treatment so much that the studio wants the film right away, envisioning it as the first leg of a trilogy. The hope is to have it ready for 2011 release," writes Deadline."

 

[Solo4114]

Sounds like a reboot.

 

[Too Much Garlic]

LOL... FOX... when will they learn not to ****ing rush things. Good script or not... without a good director you got ****.

 

[Solo4114]

I bet the script is just an adaptation for yet another remake...

 

[dbalschi]

 

[Wes R]

I'd love to see a post apocalyptic x-men story like days of future past or the variations of it that pop up like in the Wolverine and the x-men cartoon. Heck even something like the 90s cartoon in movie form would be good.