Serenity Catalyser

Discussion in 'Replica Props' started by Zombie Killer, May 18, 2012.

  1. Zombie Killer

    Zombie Killer Sr Member

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    OK, Last time this went bad. Like i said i would do i have secured a valve for my friend and can give this info out. Sorry i couldn't divulge my info before but it is what it is. Here is the deal. The part you guys want is the
    Janitrol 206-070-491-101 Mixing Valve
    Part # D55D10
    ALT # 206-070-491-101

    This comes out of a Bell 206 helicopter and is used to heat the cabin area. They run around $35k new, $2k-3K in airworthy condition . I have been in talks with the owner of a shop that rebuilds these and he will hook you up. Info will be in the junk yard on how to get them. He will be dealing with all sales directly.

    The one below is an airworthy part and is worth $2700. This valve was also rebuilt by the same guy and sold to the guy i bought it from.

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  2. Mxlplx

    Mxlplx Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Great find!
     
  3. DaddyfromNaboo

    DaddyfromNaboo Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Based on what I have seen in the "Interest thread" I have the feeling that we are going to see a repetition of what has happened when Howard posted the information about the Eumig Servomatic. Oh the fun of seeing the "community spirit" of a few members at it´s best ...
     
  4. Kerr Avon

    Kerr Avon Master Member

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    Good find and great for sharing the info! :thumbsup
     
  5. Pobbrett

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    cheers for the info, worth keeping an eye on ebay aswell as one sold a couple of days ago for $500

    Here
     
  6. Kerr Avon

    Kerr Avon Master Member

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    I think that's the one he bought!
     
  7. Alan Castillo

    Alan Castillo Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Same pics that's for sure :confused
     
  8. JOATRASH FX

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    I am glad that ZK has decided to post this here. I kept out of his interest thread that went badly. After it was locked, I actually managed to dig my heels in and find the part myself.

    For the record: I actually released all the above information on the prop yesterday on Fireflyprops before actually securing one for myself. I would have gladly posted here too as this is my main prop haunt, but I was afraid it would stir up trouble since the previous thread was so recently locked and I didn't want to seem like I was "throwing it in ZKs face", so I've been waiting for someone else to start a thread here before chiming in. (I just don't want people to think that I'm favoring one forum over the other.)

    As I saw it, things got out of hand from several directions- tempers flared and things got very confusing very fast. Some things were handled clumsily and some accusations were a bit infair. If anything, everyone involved got a raw deal.

    But it's time to move on. The discovery of this prop is a momentous occasion for Verse prop collecting and I hope that everyone that wants one can get one. It would also be great of someone were to offer castings.

    ZK and I have been in touch with the same rebuild shop and I can confirm that they are friendly to deal with . A scrapped, unusable unit will cost a few hundred dollars, depending on how "complete" it is. The one I now have (hopefully) secured will cost me around $400+.

    Honestly, I don't think the collectible value of this will ever be very high. Four hundred bucks is a lot for what you are actually getting. There is less interest in Verse props every day that goes by. Trying to get a run going of even ten or so Verse props is hard nowadays.
     
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  9. Sundowner

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    Unreal a found part cost that much! Firefly sure didn't do us prop enthusiasts any favors lol
     
  10. Kerr Avon

    Kerr Avon Master Member

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    As someone else described, it's likely it was just aerospace junk they bought by the pound from a scrap dealer. The prop people dug through it and found a piece that looked cool and shoved it in the hand of the actors saying 'here's the thing to use in that scene.'
     
  11. Alan Castillo

    Alan Castillo Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    I am quite certain that it was an item that was at hand in some sort of 'scrap heap' or something.

    Edit : Kerr beat me to it :lol
     
  12. Interceptor6

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    Let me chime in and say that Zombie Killer has "never" been anything but a stand-up guy! He's given plenty, and never asked for a thing!
    I don't know "squat" for Fireflea, but if ZK does castings of this thing, I might just have to get one!
    Smoke 'em if ya got 'em!
    Jeff
     
  13. Alan Castillo

    Alan Castillo Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Amen Jeff.

    Glen, you should really cast this sucker when you get it :thumbsup
     
  14. Zombie Killer

    Zombie Killer Sr Member

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    Thanks and again, sorry it went down so messy yesterday.
    That one on ebay is the one i bought. From what i have been told i stole it. The guy was asking $850 and i offered $500. When i sent Robert a pic of it he knew it as his rebuild and it is a functioning unit so he said i could get around $2700 for it. That paper attached to it is why it's worth so much. It's the certification to be returned to service. That and it's rebuilt. Casts are going to come BUT, i have to use a used housing to do it. I cannot mold this properly without taking it apart and if i take this one apart it is no longer an airworthy part and i would have to ship it back to Robert to get it redone for probably a grand. So i am not going to ruin a $2700 part. I will get a used housing and mold it. I asked him to see about some used fittings and solonoids too. This way we can put real fittings and solonoids on the resin castings. :love
     
  15. DaddyfromNaboo

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    Hey folks,

    just a head´s up: Glen had set up a For sale in the Junkyard for real ones, but it needed to be removed.

    You ask "why?!" The reason behind this is that he was so * generous to hand out his contact for the originals, so interested members could have contacted the ... contact ... directly, who already had set up a list since he only has a limited supply but would look into getting more of those ... thingamajigs. But as it goes, we do not allow setting up sales threads for third parties and non-members. Sorry to be a spoil sport.

    But the good thing I see coming out of this is that anybody who is interested now has to contact Glen directly to get the contact details ;) Unless he decides to post the details here in the main forum, but then I can see a debacle heading the collector community´s way, just like in (my fave) the case of the Eumig ;)

    Michael
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  16. Zombie Killer

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    I will do whatever you need me to Michael. They can contact me directly for the info if that will work or i can post the name here in this thread.
     
  17. Alan Castillo

    Alan Castillo Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    See post #8 y'all :lol

    Do I remove ?
     
  18. Zombie Killer

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    It doesn't bother me. As long as the rules permit it i am good with it.
     
  19. Alan Castillo

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    Whatever you guys want :):thumbsup
     
  20. Interceptor6

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  21. DaddyfromNaboo

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    Yeah well, I went with my gut feeling and removed Alan´s post (which quoted a post that would have been report worthy by the way. *ahem* into the general direction of Malta ...) since I do feel like it would be the best if people need to knock on Glen´s door for the information ;)

    Michael
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  22. Zombie Killer

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  23. Alan Castillo

    Alan Castillo Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Hay hem sori. Mee no speeki hinglish ........ :lol
     
  24. ssdesigner

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    I may be running the risk of getting myself into trouble here, but I'd still like to see some apologies here by members that acted like jack-wagons in ZK's for sale thread.

    For the complete LIFE of me I don't get how some of you, ESPECIALLY long-time members, don't get why he blocked out the info on the originals picture. I feel silly for having to post it, but shockingly it seems like it's worth it for me to do so...

    It doesn't MATTER if most can't afford it. If he posts the part info (and let's say the part was $3000.00) and the seller gets completely FLOODED with calls and emails....well, he may figure he's REALLY got something here! Now the part is $8000.00 and your $100.00 casting of the part is now $300.00 because the seller jacked the price up due to "demand".

    I'll say it again, I think some apologies to ZK are still in order here.

    -Ss
     
  25. Zombie Killer

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    Water under the bridge my friend. I appreciate the effort but i understand why they were mad and now they know i was not lying and know why i did what i did. Whether they agree with it or not we can all agree it could have been handle differently. Lets move on and not beat a dead horse. The catalyser has been found! Is it catalyser or catalyzer?
     
  26. DaddyfromNaboo

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    yoo no steaale my line, no?
     
  27. Goodwolf

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    What if someone else had the information and wanted to share it? It's not like you can stop them. Last I heard, the basic spirit of the RPF was the free flow of information so as to help all in the prop community.

    That's one of the most basic principles of economics though. Or are you advocating protectionist policies?
     
  28. Kerr Avon

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    The only thing not being shared anymore is the specific person he got them from, and I don't think there's ever been any requirement anywhere that a person gives up their source. The part numbers and model name and all that has been provided. It's up to you to then do the footwork to find a dealer.
     
  29. Goodwolf

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    Well, MFN has said he feels that people should have to go through Glen to get the info. What if somebody else had the same information and posted it for general consumption? I'm not saying that ZK should have to do so, but what if someone else wanted to do so?

    Edit, this is my post #666 \m/
     
  30. Yellowjacket

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    This thread is true to the Catalyser spirit. You can never find one when you really, really want one, but then one person discovers one and another discovers it right after.


    Now discover time travel and go back to save the show.
     
  31. Goodwolf

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    We'll be working on that in my secret underground lair, right after we get the sharks in with the laser beams on their heads. Unfortunately, the EPA is holding up the paperwork, so it could take a while.
     
  32. Yellowjacket

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    You'd do the shark thing before time travel...?



    You need to fire your manager and let me see your list of projects. You're funding priorities are too close to the Executive-at-FOX-that-shall-not-be-named.
     
  33. pennausamike

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    Couldn't you just replace the sharks with lawyers?
    More commonly found and that would get you moving on the time travel thing faster...
    ...just trying to help...
     
  34. Goodwolf

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    Apparently the sharks are slightly more merciful. Also, there is the professional courtesy thing to think about.
     
  35. Goodwolf

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    Security, man, security! Once the sharks are in, then the research on time travel begins so the double O spy can come in, be caught and I can give a long, rambling speech while he's trapped in an unnecessarily complicated method of execution.

    I'm a traditionalist. I'm considering a bushy black mustache and top hat.
     
  36. DaddyfromNaboo

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    Kerr summed it up very nicely. Thank you, Kerr.

    I am all for free flow of information, but I hate entitlement mentality. I can´t remember who made the comment, but I remember a very disrespectful post about how ZK´s "legwork" did not count or something like that. Wow, just wow. And to think that his "legwork" led to a sign up list at the vendor. I am sure he is not a member of the RPF. But in this case I wish he was and would have read some of the comments in that thread and place a print out of that thread next to the list of parts ...

    Ah, but then again I don´t really get what the fuss was all about anyway. Although I´ve seen Firefly, this is not a prop that really stuck with me :facepalm :lol
     
  37. Yellowjacket

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    Just testing the waters of your conviction, or in this case, the shark infested waters of your obsession. If you ever need a foot soldier of free speech to spread the message from your particular hidden fortress, just let me know.
     
  38. Goodwolf

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    We have your application on file, and HR is excited, I can tell you.
     
  39. Yellowjacket

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    About me...or the rewards currently offered by Interpol or the acronym club of every government branch in the U. S.?
     
  40. Goodwolf

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    We'll be in touch.
     
  41. marsattack

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    Wow!!
    Still no apologies?
    And to think that the guy who flamed up things is currently reading this right now!!
    I have absolutely no interest in firefly but read this guys comments on the firefly forum, bragging and cheering on people to do the same!
    He even bragged about getting a warning.
    I can't believe that with 36 posts he gets a warning , Michael you are too kind , if it was me he would of been banned off the forum for life.
    If what he did and said he believes it's a community spirit then I am totally mistaken of the meaning of that!.
    Can't believe glen you had to put up with this and give out information AFTer you were attacked.
    You know me , and how I would of reacted!
    But I guess you are more forgiving than me.
    This low post guy comes here and questions zombies character ?
    Mate you would not even come par at zombies shadow nor his commitment to props and especially his work.


    My two cents
    Marcel
     
  42. Stormleader

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    More likely something like this was a rental. They wouldn't have purchased it unless it was going to be something that was recurring in every episode. Not on a TV budget, anyway.
     
  43. MattMunson

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    The true irony here is that even if a casting was offered up at a reasonable price, only two or three people going bonkers over the politics of this find would actually buy one.

    Everyone's a critic, nobody's a consumer.
     
  44. pennausamike

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    The catalyzer is a reappearing prop.
    There were eight of them strapped to the rotating core of Serenity's engine.
    One was seen in "Out of Gas" and that one is in Nathan Fillion's possession.
    Another was tossed by Wash in the junkyard on Ariel, landing against the side of the Ariel Ambulance.

    But really, whether or not a prop is recurring or not isn't a good way to judge if it is a rental or purchased.
    I found a number of set dressing items from Inara's shuttle on eBay, on sale from a closing rental house.
    A number of the Firefly props acquired by Karl Derrick were purchased from rental houses,
    including Simon's couch from Serenity's sickbay.

    I don't know if the huge lot of aerospace junk that the production prop people used
    to greeblie-up Serenity and populate the Ariel junkyard was purchased or rented.
    I would say that the fact that the catalyzer never showed up anywhere else,
    (as is often the case with prophouse rental items)
    suggests that the junk lot was purchased by the production company;
    only to be used and tossed out (like River's cryobox).

    Mike
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    SerenityMovie.net :: View topic - Firefly/Serenity Weapons Collection
     
  45. Alan Castillo

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    BTW, thanks Glen. Due to all the hoo-ha about this item, I just bought the series on DVD.

    Have never seen Firefly, and have no idea what this prop is :lol
     
  46. Zombie Killer

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    Alan, up until recently i was not really a Firefly or Serenity fan either. In fact the Mals pistol i am redoing is my first firefly prop. I liked the movie Serenity, but when i tried to watch the series it confused the heck out of me because the story line it didn't seem to mesh with the movie. I started watching it on tv when they did marathons and it just grew on me, this episode is one of my favorites. I still don't even have the DVD of the series. I want to get it on BRay.
     
  47. Alan Castillo

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    There is a movie too :confused

    Great :unsure

    * goes back to play.com * ..... :lol


    Edit - Done. Gotta love the net :lol

    Edit 2 - They must be good. Morena Baccarin is in them all :D
     
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  48. Alan Castillo

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    Now after all that, you have to tell me which episode its in, and post a screencap :confused
     
  49. Zombie Killer

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    The episode was "out of gas".

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  50. Pobbrett

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    it definitely wasn't a rental item and the one fillion owns was put in an episode of castle in which he dresses up as mal (not seen castle but happened upon the image when searching for the item) fillion had tweeted about it.

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