Scratch Built Delivery Ship 3011AD, The Nylon Gag MK.1 FINISHED.

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  1. TheNylonGag

    TheNylonGag Well-Known Member Gone but not forgotten.

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    Ello folks,
    So, I decided to scratch build an original Spaceship/craft/sum-it-or-other. I was determined not to copy a style or genre. Very difficult with me being a big Star Wars fan since 1977. I was nine at the time the movie came out so most of the designs were burned into my brain pretty good.
    I decided I didn't want it to be from a galaxy far far away, I thought it would be more interesting to go towards a more feasible design with a not to distant future kind a look.
    I thought about the year 3011ish should do. I wanted it also to be little bit relevant in today’s world, so, during this thinking process I just happened to be watching my sport of choice, Formula 1. Red Bull Racing had just won the F1 World championship (2011) with Sebastian Vettel driving. What about Red Bull deliveries in the 3011 I thought, (as you would) how would Red Bull get its product to where ever in 3011. Bingo? You see the Red Bull logo everywhere, plus I thought it would make a very cool paint scheme.
    So, I decided to build a Red Bull delivery-thingy-what-sit from the year 3011.
    I made a few pre-liminary sketches incorporating design elements I liked. I felt the key was the cockpit shape. I always liked the shot in Alien, when Ash (the synthetic) climbs into the pilot seat of the Nostromo, and its an underbelly canopy, with the whole planet layed out under him. So after much searching I found my canopy material and established the design from there back.
    I made a small model just to see if my vision of the wing profile would have ‘flow’, look ‘feasible’ & be ‘cool’, my 3 main criteria for this build.

    So after that ‘short’ intro, here are some ‘story so far’ pix.

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    Currently working on the main engine asseblies

    Thanks for looking

    The Nylon Gag
     
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  2. JohnLogan

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    Cool looking ship. Must see more down the road.
     
  3. Szyntax

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    I love peoples scratchbuilds more than the copies of movie stuff. Great start, love the lighting.
     
  4. TheNylonGag

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    Afternoon Movers And Groovers,

    Been working on the engine asseblies.

    Pipes, pipes, pipes.

    Thats pretty much all i been doin lately.

    Next i'm gunna install some wiring looms.

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    Thanks for looking

    Gagster Man
     
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  5. JohnLogan

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    Wow! Those engines are superb.
     
  6. TheNylonGag

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    Ello RPF'ers,
    Hope everybody is well and working on some interesting builds.
    Thank's for your kind words.

    So, once again we look at the detailing of the engines. So "PIX"

    I was never happy with the rear nozzel deflectors, they looked very plastic (which they are, but in a bad way)
    so i set about adding some small details to diguise them a bit.
    First i added a piece of 0.5mm sheet to the back (X8).

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    I then added 3 piece of 'U' channel to the top, being careful to allign them with the existing ribs.

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    I then chamfered the ends down.

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    I then added more 'U' channel to cover the ends of the side supports & removed one of the U's legs

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    Everything was sanded smooth and then a quick test fit to see how we were looking.

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    I then turned my attention to the back of the deflector, where i added 'T's, half round, small 'U' pieces of syrene for my details.

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    This is how both sides finished up.

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    I then concetrated on the telescopic adjusters for the back of each deflector.
    I made 8 of everything, i dry assembled them and then dry fit one on the engine just to make sure it had the look i was after.

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    Everything is dry fit at the moment but it is exactly the look i was after.
    Also, i got hold of some fine gauge wire, which i plan to add for control lines on the engines and maybe attach them to the adjusters, i will have to see what looks best.
    I now have the dilemma of what to paint and when. I think i will have to do it in small sub-assemblies and then try not to get too much glue everywhere when i put them together.
    Thats as far as i've got this week.
    Your comments are always welcome.
    Thanks for stopping by.
     
    The Nylon Gag
     
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  7. 3d-builder

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    :lol Your one of the sickest guys on the planet.......I love this thing the detail
    is off the charts!:thumbsup
     
  8. Constantine

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    Wow, that is some nice work and a great job in integrating all those parts!
     
  9. JackFrost

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    awesome work, the greeblies are :). you sir are good!
     
  10. TheNylonGag

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    Hello,
    Thanks for the comments guys, i realy appreciate them
    Just a short update to a lot of realy fiddly stuff, that at times nearly resulted in me launching these things against the wall, but i just about kept my head:facepalm ........................... just' :lol
    So, here we go....
    Basically added more hydralic lines, oil lines and any other type of line i could squeeze in.
    Started with the 0.016wire from the back of the telescopic adjusters.

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    Then glued wires into 'H' profile styrene

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    Added a small piece of 'U' and fixed to the base unit of the adjusters

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    Then just threaded the wire thru all the other stuff

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    Then primered it all up,
    Deflector vanes.

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    Then the main units.

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    They are alot blacker in real life than in the photos.
    Now comes the scary part, painting the bloody things. My paint skills are very poor so i hope i don't mess them up too bad. :confused

    Any suggestions on colours to use would be appreciated, i'm thinking mainly metallic grey, gun metal, silver, copper, gold and some blends of these.

    Comments welcome
    Gag
     
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  11. Amish Trooper

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    Loving the detail. Great updates!
     
  12. Pro Mod

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    Wow! Loving the amount of detail your putting into this build.
    Looking forward to seeing more!
     
  13. RickDTM

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    Wonderful amount of detail you're adding to each of the engines. Excellent work!
     
  14. JP Modelworks

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    Love it!
     
  15. Faroth

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    What I really like about the engines is they are detailed, yet they are not patterned after a real life jet engine so there is nothing to go off of. You are not trying to duplicate something that exists, so you need to add just the right amount of detail and make it look like it all works for something completely fictional and made up. Well done.
     
  16. 3d-builder

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    :lol:thumbsup(y)thumbsup(y)thumbsup(y)thumbsup

    GOD I LOVE THIS THING!
     
  17. Sourdoh

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    More pictures!
     
  18. castlegardener

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    wow, the detail is simply mind-boggling
     
  19. Treadwell

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    Wow, this is awesome. I love those deflectors.

    Might I suggest a thread title change? I almost didn't click on it, not knowing it was a spaceship build. Didn't know it was your username, and wondered if it was even in the right forum.
     
  20. TheNylonGag

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    Ello RPF Dudes & Dudets,

    Thanks for the comments guys, i appreciate you comments, they encourage me a great deal.


    Thanks for the advice, i just spent 10mins figuring out how to change it but i got there in the end.

    I have spent the last couple of days painting, not my favourite thing but its been a few years so i'm pretty pleased with the results.

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    I then had a light test to see how it looked in the fairing

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    Got a little video for you to check out. :lol

    First Full light test with finished Engine in position in fairing. - YouTube

    Now have to paint the front intakes, wish me luck:confused

    Gagster
     
  21. glorbes

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    Wow, this is exceptional and inspiring work. The fine detailing on the engines is...incredible. The paint job is so crisp and clean, which really pulls together the organized chaos of the greeblie work you did. Love the stocky design of the ship itself too...it has a great, solid and classic feel too it.
     
  22. SofaKing01

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    That is amazing! Love the details!
     
  23. yuumi2891103

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    Really amazing build. Oh I love it !!
     
  24. Damocles

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    Psycho detailing, love it! Awesome work on the engines.
     
  25. tek2graphics

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    Now that's ART! Love the details!!!!
     
  26. Ray22

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    Don't know how I missed this build, out F#%king standing!
     
  27. JMChladek

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    You know, I was thinking about how the greeblies on this bird felt like something yuumi would do. ;)

    This is a pretty cool design. The rear profile reminds me a little of the attack cruisers from "Starchaser, the Legend of Orin" somewhat (probably because of the hexagonal shape).
     
  28. pwrofbauer

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    That detail is insane!!!! Love it!!
     
  29. mydigitalvoid

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    Man that rocks! You have great talent!
     
  30. JohnLogan

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    WOW! Thats about all I can say. Engines look really great, lovethe detail.
    Ship is bigger than I originally thought it was. Cool
     
  31. yuumi2891103

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    This man has a talent and expressing it very well.
    It is inspiring me a lot.
     
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  32. Watson

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    This is pretty amazing I love the details
     
  33. Noumcea

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    Mate, most excellent work !!!!

    May I suggest you cut back the fairings a bit ? It would be a shame not see the detailing on the middle part of the engines....Just my thought.

    This rocks. Looking forward to more and more :cool

    Dave.
     
  34. TheNylonGag

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    Ello Chums,
    Thanks again for the great comments, glad you like the lighting.
    This last week i've concentrated on adding a bit of detail to the front intakes, painting and weathering the intakes and weathering of the engines.
    Also i've attached the engine fairings to the main body.
    Front intake with some simple detail additions, wanted to keep these fairly clean

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    Then gave them a coat of black primer then a top coat of Metallic grey and titanium silver
    Then gave the whole thing a black pastel wash, with more intense colour at the front of the intake, then a heavy drybrush with crome silver

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    Gave the deflectors and the engines a pastel wash with black and a light wash with brown, then a very light drybrush with crome silver again.
    Later i will do some more streaks and dirt with oils but for now i'm happy with the look.

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    Then did a rough assembly of the engines just to see whats what.

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    And with a fairing.

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    Next i covered the last of the exposed card board on the bottom of the fairings using 1/2mm (0.020) styrene sheet.


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    Let them dry overnight then shaped and rough sanded them

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    Recessed 1/4-20 unc nuts into the top of both fairings after a long and boring process of trial and error with the final location.


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    Covered these nuts with top plates for each fairing after gluing the nut in position


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    Then attached the fairings for a test run

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    Finally painted and fitted the actuators to the back of the engine deflectors

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    Next is permanently fixing the fairings to the wings with a bit of a deflector at the front, will do a few mock ups in cardboard first.
    Thanks for looking
    Comments welcome
    The Gag
     
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  35. darth_daniel

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    The work on the engines is incredible. Very inspiring! :thumbsup
     
  36. DocRaven

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    amazing work
     
  37. clancampbell

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    Completely astonishing!

    Rich
     
  38. DMC 12

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    Absolutely incredible! I've never been able to do all of these little details, I'll look at something for ages, and never be able to think of what to put there... This is amazing!
     
  39. TheNylonGag

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    Hello Folks,

    I just wanted to write a short note to say how much your comments mean to me and how much they motivate me, words like incredible, amazing, astonishing are such bold words and not words i hear every day, so thanks alot guys, i feel very humble, thank you so much.


    mydigitalvoid, where abouts are you in Miami, i'm just down the road in Homestead, by the race track.

    DMC 12, this is my first experience with scratch building of any kind, i only started this project and my return to modelling in October of last year.

    But if its one thing i have learned is layers. Layer your detail/greeblies, start with some kind of basic structure for everything to sit on, then add some basic greeblies, small boxes, tanks and containers with may be a few detailed parts with more complex shapes, then add some tubing and finally the wiring and may be some additional specific details on top. You would be suprised how easy it is to build a very simple but quite detailed tub.
    Just let your imagination go, i have only been robbing from 4 models for this entire build so far, 2 identical motogp bikes, a ship and a tank, everything else is plastruct styrene shapes, tool holders from my job and interesting shapes i have seen in various house hold products i have picked up.

    Just experiment, this entire build is one big experiment.

    good luck

    Gag
     
  40. TheNylonGag

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    Mornin All,

    Thanks for the comments guys.


    Just been plodding away, had some trouble with inspiration during the middle of the week. I couldn't decide what to do next. I was over thinking everything and there for achieveing nothing, so i just went with the flow.

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    Had the dilema of how to attach the engines but still have the ability to mess with the wires and everything.
    So first i made covers.
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    Then i decided on how to blend the fairings in with the covers

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    Filled then sanded

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    Started the detail around the forward strobe and how to run the wires to the LED.

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    Added the rear green/right hand side, red/left hand side flasher lights.

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    Did everything again with some more added detail.

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    Not sure what to do next, will probably do a simpler version on the inside of the fairing.
    I decided I want to keep the wing surfaces fairly detailed and also have some raised panels. Think a bit 'Falconish', sort of retro fit by the pilot.

    Anywho'syourdaddy,
    Thanks for stopping by

    The Gold Medal Gagsterman
     
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  41. stethemessiah

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    This is all just freekin' good. You're really talented, should be doing this stuff professionally.
    And btw, my Mrs has same tat as you, but on the top of her arm.
     
  42. Yellowjacket

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    This is an awesome, custom design. I look forward to the finish and I love the directions you're taking with each detail.
     
  43. SofaKing01

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    GOOD LORD! Love the attention to detail... Do you find it theraputic to put that much detail into your work or is it more by necessity? Either way... AMAZING! :)
     
  44. TheNylonGag

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    Hello RPF Peoples,
    Haven't been about much lately, 10 year wedding anniversary suprise party to organize for the wife, great night.

    Anyhoo, added some tubing and detail to the inside of the fairings,

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    Added air brakes to the out side of the fairings, i also think they can aide on stearing, hey, i'm making this up as i go:lol

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    Assembled some actuator greeblies

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    Thanks for looking

    Gag
     
  45. hoverboard

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    This thing is a piece of art. Most projects I see, I am really waiting for the finished product. In this case, I am really enthralled by every step of the build. Keep up the great work, your talent is inspiring.
     
  46. morcon1223

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    amazing details. how much time have you put on it so far???
     
  47. TheNylonGag

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    Not sure exactly but i started it in October 2011
     
  48. TheNylonGag

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    RPFer's

    For the last two weeks i have continued to focus on the external engine fairing details.

    I cut various detail stuff from stock styrene

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    Then added these to the air break actuator assemblies

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    Added a small external exhaust port

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    Then i started to scribe panel lines on the bottom half, i didn't know if i was going to panel this with sheet or scribe, i went for scribe, for a first attempt ever, i think its not too bad.

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    Then i did the top, this didn't go quite as smoothly, this is the best picture i have, you ain't seeing the others, i'm not so good with the curved surfaces, i'm gunna hope that my mistakes are covered by the primer a bit?

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    Added some external panels to the front and top profile with 1/2mm sheet styrene and a bit of PE

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    Added more detail with 'T' and 'L' shaped styrene to the inside of these additional external panels

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    Cut them to length and gave them all a nice taper.

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    Relined the insides with 1/2mm sheet syrene, filled the corners with super glue and baking soda, sanded smooth.

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    Added cooling rods to the top inside of the fairing.

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    Gave them all a chamfer then cleaned them up

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    Added some edge detail to blend the surfaces

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    Then started to do the same with the sides

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    And thats about it, i am currently blending the inside edges with the side cooling pipes using similar detail to the top section

    Thank for stopping by
    till next time

    Gag
     
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  49. Randy13

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    Such amazing details. I don't know how you come up with this stuff but keep up the great work!
     
  50. srspicer

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    Looks greta, nice fine detailing as well.

    Next time, try to layout all of your scribes first, but I realize you kind-a building as you go.

    Well done!!:popcorn

    Scott
     

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