Royal Guard Pep

Discussion in 'Replica Costumes' started by ctx32, Apr 7, 2012.

  1. ctx32

    ctx32 New Member

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    This is my 2nd Pep and I have a few questions.
    I'm ready for fiberglass, But I saw a video about washing the entire Pep with glue. Is this necessary?
    Thank you for the Pep file guys, My wife has become my Pep model.
    Calvin

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  2. Crank729

    Crank729 Sr Member

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    Washing the pep with glue? No.....Don't do that. A couple of layers of resin and then fiberglass. No glue washing necessary.
     
  3. zookone

    zookone Well-Known Member

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    Yeah glue washing sounds like a bad idea, that would water proof the paper. You want the resin to saturate the paper and become one.

    On a side note, the helmet looks great, These folks were super cool.
     
  4. kibosh

    kibosh Sr Member

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    That does look great. May I ask where you got the pep file for this? Would love to try my hand at a Royal Guard!
     
  5. ctx32

    ctx32 New Member

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  6. Allfate

    Allfate Active Member

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    Great pep work ;)... I also use 2 outside coats of resin and 1 to 2 inside coats before I fiberglass... It's always worked well for me
     
  7. ctx32

    ctx32 New Member

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    2 coats on the outside, let it dry.
    Then 2 coats on the inside, let it dry.
    Then 1 coat with the fiberglass cloth on the inside.
    Right?
    Calvin
     
  8. Fierfek

    Fierfek Sr Member

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    I usually use one coat on the inside, one on the outside, then fiberglass cloth after another light coat on the inside. Nice work so far on the pep, I'm glad my files are being put to use.
     
  9. The Ronin

    The Ronin Well-Known Member

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    I'd bet the vid you saw was using aqua resin, not polyester resin. Aqua resin will soak into the cardstock paper and turn a pep to mush if it's not waterproofed. Poly resin will only partially soak into the cardstock and won't deform it.
     
  10. animefan

    animefan Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    You only use glue to seal foam pep builds. One coat of fiber glass on the inside and one coat of resin on the outside. Your then going to have to use many coats of bondo for the final shape.
     
  11. ctx32

    ctx32 New Member

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    Fierfek, Thank you for the file.
    It was a real joy to build and it was very clear on the layout.
    I'm also working on a Biker Scout helmet that was done by Nintendo dude.
    I think that was the name.
    My wife is trying to join the 501st.

    I can't wait till the Pit Droid file is complete, hint hint.

    Thanks for the info on glassing guys, ill post pics this weekend.
    I hope it all goes good.
    Calvin
     
  12. Tigerblood

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    you're just wasting the effort of coating outside and the inside. Just brush the inside with "rondo".
     
  13. KaanE

    KaanE Sr Member

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    If you do a coat of poly resin on the outside it will cover the holes, so you'll have a better rondo work on the inside, and it will also give you a better surface for the bondo (it will stick better to the helmet) plus a harder surface to work.
     
  14. Tigerblood

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    the resin isn't a better substrate to put bondo on. Using rondo in the inside fills the corners and beveled areas hence it's better to do this alone before the filler. This is the most cost effective way to do it.
     
  15. KaanE

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    Of course, a rondo coat must be applied, but for Rondo you also need Poly Resin, so the cost would be the same. Applying a first coat of plain Poly resin on the outside costs the same and it takes around 1 to 2 hours to dry and 10 minutes to apply.
     
  16. ctx32

    ctx32 New Member

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    I couldn't wait for the weekend and had alittle time to spend.
    So I put the 1st coat of Fiber Resin on the outside.
    Boy does that stuff stink!!!!!!

    Maybe tomorrow I can get the second coat on the outside and prepare
    for the inner coat.
    Calvin

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  17. KaanE

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    You can go directly to phase two and Rondo the helmet inside.
     
  18. ctx32

    ctx32 New Member

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    Sorry to sound so stupid, But what is Rondo?
    Calvin
     
  19. KaanE

    KaanE Sr Member

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    A mix of Bondo and Polyester Resin. I can't tell you the ratio but it becomes a smooth resin, easy to work with which will cover any hole, and when hardened it's rock solid.
     
  20. ctx32

    ctx32 New Member

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    I applied 2 coats of fiber Resin on the outside, 2 on the inside, followed by Fiberglass Cloth. I know it's sloppy work with the cloth but its my 1st time. Its as hard as a rock.

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    I need to clean the edges and give it a sand to prepare the outside for Evercoat Bondo.
    Hope it works out.
    Calvin
     
  21. Nomolos95

    Nomolos95 New Member

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    Sweet man looks awesome! looking forward to the finished piece!
     
  22. dkaniel

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    The best ratio is one part bondo to one part resin mix thoroughly and don't forget to add the resin catalyst. The mixture will be very runny so be careful when applying. I have mixed 2 parts bondo to one part resin with some degree of success, the mixture is much more thicker but make sure to apply quickly. Depending on the room temperature when the mixture is applied you may have to wait up to 24 hours to allow the mixture to completely dry before applying another coat or attempting to sand.
     
  23. ctx32

    ctx32 New Member

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    I cleaned up the edges and gave the entire helmet a light sand to knock down some of the high points and so the bondo will have something to bite into.

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  24. KaanE

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    I've find easier over the years to not apply filler on the whole bucket at the same time, if I were you I would work by areas, not overwhelming yourself.
     
  25. ctx32

    ctx32 New Member

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    That's what I was thinking.
    I' LL start at the top and work downward.
    Calvin
     
  26. ctx32

    ctx32 New Member

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    Evercoat Bondo work.
    I'm using it because I've worked with it before and it doesn't tend to crack when built up thick.
    Calvin

    The work is in the rough stage, But it's work.

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  27. KaanE

    KaanE Sr Member

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    Keep this way and you'll end up with a really nice product. Looks like it's not your first scratchbuild?
     
  28. ctx32

    ctx32 New Member

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    Thanks for the comment and watching over my work.
    Yeah it's my 1st Pepakura, But not my 1st project.
    Here's my Little Buddy: Thomas' R2D2
    I need to update my blog, He's actually finished now.

    I sure hope this helmet turns out after this I need to work on my wife's Biker helmet.
    Calvin
     
  29. kibosh

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    Would anyone be so kind as to make available an unfolded PDF version of this for those of us on Macs?
     
  30. ctx32

    ctx32 New Member

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    If I knew how, I would do it for you.

    Here's and update of the helmet.
    I'm working the top dome into the band around the helmet by smoothing evercoat with my finger to make the smooth transition.
    Still very rough but working at it.

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    I'm also workinf further down around the sides.

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