Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (Pre-release)

Hummmmm, looks like this is all leveling out a bit now. I think that the tremendous success of TFA has probably caused Disney to rein in their impulse to be very "experimental" with the franchise at the moment. Lets be honest, if TFA HAD performed less well then maybe they would have allowed it to try for a none PG rating, but my guess is they are now looking towards the Marvel Comic Universe formula , ie a stronger balance between action , character ,humour and interwoven storylines and that general all round audience appeal. Rogue One was always going to be a dark story but its never been entirely clear just how far it would be allowed to go.
My feeling is they (Disney) are now micro managing this, given that the new SW franchise is still really in its infancy, having lost its creator and probably an awful lot of influential input and fresh starting it was always going to be a little bit of a challenge. It really took the success of " Iron Man " to shape the Marvels "design" for their future universe of the series and then they have built spectacularly upon the format ,fine tuning the elements that appealled to audiences and critics alike as they went. Look at how "Captain America" developed with each successive film, not only in terms of Box office returns but also in script and story quality,while not wandering hugely away from the franchise "formula". I think they are also trying to do the same with SW now they feel they know whats likely to be best recieved by the general public.
A couple of things that I take issue with:
Firstly the extensive use of CGI as an excuse is misdirected. This was a very physical shoot and the stunt team was massive . There will be green screen obviously but I doubt it will be much more than TFA and few people have mentioned the location shooting in Iceland and Jordan. And I would doubt they are going to reshoot on massive sets, it would take to long to rebuild them BUT I do note they could probably take advantage of certain current ones that have been constructed recently if the Solo cameo is going to be bigger than first anticipated and its to become its own standalone series.Or perhaps R1 will have a stronger link to TFA than we ever imagined.
And it maybe that some characters needed the additional dialogue and scenes to flesh their performance out ie if there is a particular opportunity with Alans robot for more comic scenes as they did with BB8, or even add more screen time with Vader or perhaps even the Emperor. Maybe the moted Tarkin facial effects do not quite work .
Lets face it the exact same "panic" happend with the "Suicide Squad " reshooting for exactly the same reported reasons ie it was a potential DC "disaster" yet on the back of it they are already looking to develope a "Harley Quin" standalone.
With the 2016b Celebration only six weeks away a lot of this will be cleared up, but it will be interesting to see whats said given that the reshoots will be happening about then.
 
Everyone says the movie is in trouble because they're doing reshoots, as if that's really anything new in hollywood. I'd be more worried about the guy directing it being the guy behind the last US Godzilla movie than anything else.
 
But the reshoots were predicated on a fictitious panic resulting from test screenings which never occurred. Does anyone really believe LucasFilm would screen a Star Wars film for anyone outside of LusasFilm?

Well studios screen movies for test audiences all the time though I'm not sure how common it is for SW movies. Did they not do it for TFA? Sounds like this was a screening for Disney execs, so while it could be called a test screening of sorts, it's not the what was initially thought. I'm not sure I like the idea of Disney execs having a hand in the creative process...
 
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You don't need Twitter to follow along. (Pablo Hidalgo on Twitter).

TBH, I just wish he'd stop posting - or at least stop going as far has often does. He's ruining a lot of the speculative fun. He often comes off (to me, at least) as a pretentious, sour, know-it-all, rather than a LFL Exec and makes me miss Sansweet and Bonnie Burton. Although he's not as bad as the MakingStarWars folks and those that slobber over him.

Yeah he's always been a tool and I'm amazed he has a say in anything. The position he's somehow reached within Lucasfilm has certainly not helped his ego.
 
Well studios screen movies for test audiences all the time though I'm not sure how common it is for SW movies. Did they not do it for TFA? Sounds like this was a screening for Disney execs, so while it could be called a test screening of sorts, it's not the what was initially thought. I'm not sure I like the idea of Disney execs having a hand in the creative process...

After ANH I don't think GL did any general audience test screenings and with the efforts to contain the TFA story leaks, I doubt JJ did either.
 
According to what I read is that disney didn't like the "tone" saying that it wasn't as "upbeat" as TFA. If that's the case I'm gonna be rather pissed
 
From the "makingstarwars" link:

"The result was a lot more CGI than The Force Awakens and using places that actually exist in the real world and making them look like they belong in Star Wars"

Since seeing the trailer, I've thought that the scene with our new heros running through the subway station looked like they were running through a subway station, or perhaps a shopping mall. Not something in the Star Wars universe.
 
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It was a real place but altered. Who's to say what belongs in SW? We've seen less than 1 percent of the galaxy.

From the "makingstarwars" link:

"The result was a lot more CGI than The Force Awakens and using places that actually exist in the real world and making them look like they belong in Star Wars"

Since seeing the trailer, I've thought that the scene with our new heros running through the subway station looked like they were running through a subway station, or perhaps a shopping mall. Not something in the Star Wars universe.
 
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After ANH I don't think GL did any general audience test screenings and with the efforts to contain the TFA story leaks, I doubt JJ did either.

If he had he'd have known to replace Jar Jar with a sockpuppet or droid in the prequels.
 
It was a real place but altered. Who's to say what belongs in SW? We've seen less than 1 percent of the galaxy.
Well, it didn't work for me. It kind of looked how Doctor Who would dress up a location to create an alien world - you can still see the earth shining through.
 
According to what I read is that disney didn't like the "tone" saying that it wasn't as "upbeat" as TFA. If that's the case I'm gonna be rather pissed

This is what it is reported to have been said:


To clarify, there were no test screenings and rather a re-shoot decision was made after Disney suits and producers watched the initial cut of the highly anticipated first spinoff.
According to sources, the first cut was lacking the edge that Force Awakens had, and the story needs to jell. The film’s December 16 release date will not be affected, according to one insider — and with Comic-Con fast approaching, hopefully the studio might be able to tease fans with at least a little something.
 
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if it ends 10min before ANH maybe we will see cpo and r2!!


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This is what it is reported to have been said:


To clarify, there were no test screenings and rather a re-shoot decision was made after Disney suits and producers watched the initial cut of the highly anticipated first spinoff.
According to sources, the first cut was lacking the edge that Force Awakens had, and the story needs to jell. The film’s December 16 release date will not be affected, according to one insider — and with Comic-Con fast approaching, hopefully the studio might be able to tease fans with at least a little something.
Maybe they felt the story was simply too predictable.
Maybe after monitoring fan sites and social media they realized there were really no surprises for the fans. After all, the only thing worse than a bad film would be a boring film.
 
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