Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (Pre-release)

[Zuiun]

re: Star Wars Standalone Film (Dir: Gareth Edwards)

I am ok with the idea of them going forward with the movies. That is, into the future from the OT. In fact, I'd prefer they go FAR into the future (at least far enough to have a different generation of characters).

What I really DON'T want is them telling the "story" of every major current character.

Han Solo is cool because I don't know everything about him. The mystery is PART of his character. Likewise Yoda. Frankly, absolutely NOTHING any writer could come up with would be as interesting as NOT KNOWING what these characters did when they were kids, or young adults, or whatever. If the prequels gave us anything, it gave us this lesson.

The exception I would make would be extremely periphery characters. I might even be willing to stretch that to someone like Fett. Maybe.

 

[Too Much Garlic]

re: Star Wars Standalone Film (Dir: Gareth Edwards)

Solo in his late teens, early twenties, in the Imperial Navy before saving Chewie from slavery is the backstory I heard all the way back in the eighties/early nineties and it would be STUPID to just up and change that for no real reason. I know it's not canon, but unlike the EU taking place after RotJ, there really is no reason to mess with back-story that has been around nearly since the beginning. I know that's contradictory of me... but hey. I don't want to see an early teens solo - we saw that with mini-Fett and look how lame that turned out to be.

Also, setting some of those off-shoot movies at the height of the Empire rule may in fact show us more of the power and might of the stormtroopers in action, how the regional governors start tightening the grip of the systems. Show them for the dangerous and oppressing force that they are. But make it actors in costumes, not CGI.

Also, a bounty hunter movie - that doesn't necessarily have to include Fett - could be interesting.

And as mentioned in the other thread - just because the Jedi are "extinct", doesn't mean Force users isn't still born and are able to use some of their powers for personal gain. Doesn't have to be a bounty hunter movie... or... it could be someone with Force capabilities being hunted by bounty hunters.

 

[cboath]

re: Star Wars Standalone Film (Dir: Gareth Edwards)

I wonder if they might use some of the one offs the way the young indiana jones chronicles were used. That being, to test out new techniques and ways of filmmaking. No better test than try to put out a final product. That way, as straight to video, if it's not a huge hit it's no big deal.

As for the one-off's i'm fine with new characters. Not sure there's a need for flicks on teen fett or 400 year old yoda, etc. If they want to investigate other avenues, the creation of the sith, 1000 years before ANH, etc, would all be very fertile and fresh ground. As far as being contemporary with E7, it's MUCH harder at this point to envision those because we've got no clue what's going to happen in E7, 8, 9. Some of those characters could be candidates, but it's very hard to say now. I mean, in '79, having an 'Adventures of Luke Skywalker' flick before Empire would have been rather pointless as it would be seen be all as the sequel, not a one off.

The Marvel model doesn't fit when you're doing a trilogy. People read it as the next chapter in the saga and not a standalone piece. Now, after the ST, if they want to have people go their own way and get them all back together for a big avengers type flick every 3-5 years - great.

I don't think the jedi are necessarily extinct anyhow. A galaxy has billions of planet's, If the empire could thoroughly search 1 planet a day for the 30 yearish span between E1 and 6, they'd have search a whole 10,950 or so planets. If a jedi wanted to hide, it'd have been easy. Who says there was a record of every Jedi in existence in the Jedi Temple or anywhere? Hard to find what you don't know exists. Vader and the Emperor new Obi and Yoda existed and never found them.....i'd say the odds are probable there'd still be some out there.

 

[Lord Boron]

re: Star Wars Standalone Film (Dir: Gareth Edwards)

I'm already getting sick of the overexposure and hasn't even properly started yet. Disneys going to milk it dry until no one cares anymore.

 

[Too Much Garlic]

re: Star Wars Standalone Film (Dir: Gareth Edwards)

Vader and the Emperor new Obi and Yoda existed and never found them.....i'd say the odds are probable there'd still be some out there.

That's certainly not evident in the movies. Vader is surprised to sense Obi-Wan in ANH and he never refers to Yoda when commenting on how Luke has progressed with his training - it's always: Obi-Wan.

 

[cboath]

re: Star Wars Standalone Film (Dir: Gareth Edwards)

Nothing that was shown in any of the movies gave the slightest inclination they wouldn't be around either.

In film, the last they saw of obi wan was after he kicked anakin's ass and left him for dead. He walked away the picture of health.

The last they saw of Yoda, in the films, he fell towards the bottom of the senate chamber. Now, if the emperor is a complete moron and just assumed he died in the fall and never looked for or found a body, then maaaayyybeee, they could think yoda had died.

As for vader being surprised to see obi wan, well, you don't see someone in 20 years and they just pop up in front of your face, you'll be surprised.

If you want to get really picky, vader talked as he did in ANH (not referencing yoda) because he didn't exist yet. In ESB, yoda existed, but there wasn't a backstory that said yoda tought anakin at that point either. The dialog there more implies vader didn't know yoda ever existed - not that he thought he was dead.

Hell, they could bring Mace back if they wanted. If anakin can take a free fall through coruscant and target a speeder 100's if not 1000's of feet below, land on it, and fight with it, why couldn't they say Mace - ass kicked and all - couldn't bring himself together enough to reach out and grab a speed before hitting the ground?

Biggest rule in TV and movies, no dead body, person isn't usually dead.

 

[Edwardowan]

re: Star Wars Standalone Film (Dir: Gareth Edwards)

I'm already getting sick of the overexposure and hasn't even properly started yet. Disneys going to milk it dry until no one cares anymore.

I'm still excited! :lol I wouldn't call any of this overexposure by Disney... they made one announcement that they would do some extra bonus films and the media ran with it. The official site made one post about it. The over exposure is from us fans! :unsure (but I bet if you talked to a handful of people on the street they would have no idea about any of this yet or not believe you.)

 

[Lord Boron]

re: Star Wars Standalone Film (Dir: Gareth Edwards)

Perhaps we can at long last get a film adaptation of Lando Calrissian and the Starcave of ThonBoka...

 

[jme3]

re: Star Wars Standalone Film (Dir: Gareth Edwards)

See, I get that, but I think that's more a product of lack of vision. People can't think beyond what they already know, they know the feeling they want to recapture, and so they just go back to the well assuming it hasn't yet run dry.

Yet when others have stepped outside that to introduce new characters, they've generally been well received. Kyle Katarn and the Dark Forces/Jedi Knight games were popular. The KOTOR games and comics were pretty popular too.

Studios are simply so risk-averse that they'd rather just do what the average chucklebuck can think up in 2 minutes on the can than try to create something new that said chucklebuck would never have dreamed of.

I'm not saying that Young Han Solo and Boba Fett movies won't be fun, but it's just another example of BRANDING based on timidity.

You're exactly right; most people are simply more comfortable with what they're familiar with. Personally, I see no reason at all why future installments can't or shouldn't focus on entirely new characters and scenarios. They may indeed even be very good. But for most in the age bracket that grew up with the OT, anything else will likely not evoke any sense of connection to them. Star Wars occurred during a time when all the planets were lined up, so to speak, and it left an indelible mark on most of our psyche and on popular culture the world over. For the vast majority, I'd say, Star Wars IS the characters, ships, weapons and locales we know from the OT, and it's just something that's very hard for most people to escape from or grow beyond...

 

[rodneyfaile]

re: Star Wars Standalone Film (Dir: Gareth Edwards)

I'm already getting sick of the overexposure and hasn't even properly started yet. Disneys going to milk it dry until no one cares anymore.

Blasphemy! Bring on more Star Wars! I needs Star Wars toys with happy meals. Says Wars everywhere all the time. I want it back on top and everyone talking about it like the old days.

 

[Edwardowan]

re: Star Wars Standalone Film (Dir: Gareth Edwards)

Blasphemy! Bring on more Star Wars! I needs Star Wars toys with happy meals. Says Wars everywhere all the time. I want it back on top and everyone talking about it like the old days.

:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup I'll drink blue milk to that!

 

[Bigdaddy]

re: Star Wars Standalone Film (Dir: Gareth Edwards)

Maybe they'll do a "dream" like Dallas, the opening of E7 is the close of ROTJ, with vader tossing palpy down the hole, suddenly Anakin wakes up next to Padme on Naboo, "it's just a vision of a possible future". Then we can start all over :lol

 

[aeonpulse]

re: Star Wars Standalone Film (Dir: Gareth Edwards)

Maybe they'll do a "dream" like Dallas, the opening of E7 is the close of ROTJ, with vader tossing palpy down the hole, suddenly Anakin wakes up next to Padme on Naboo, "it's just a vision of a possible future". Then we can start all over :lol

Hahahahah, oh yeah, fans would love that! :lol

 

[Michael Bergeron]

re: Star Wars Standalone Film (Dir: Gareth Edwards)

Maybe they'll do a "dream" like Dallas, the opening of E7 is the close of ROTJ, with vader tossing palpy down the hole, suddenly Anakin wakes up next to Padme on Naboo, "it's just a vision of a possible future". Then we can start all over :lol

lol:lol

That would be a hilarious twist! Let's toss the GOOD Star Wars for the bad one! :lol

 

[Riceball]

re: Star Wars Standalone Film (Dir: Gareth Edwards)

Blasphemy! Bring on more Star Wars! I needs Star Wars toys with happy meals. Says Wars everywhere all the time. I want it back on top and everyone talking about it like the old days.

I wouldn't be too surprised if they did that, after all, Paramount did that with ST:TMP back when it first came out; I still remember a joke on the side of the box about Klingons clinging on and the transparent blue plastic wrist communicator toy thing it came with too.

 

[Pwrsrce]

re: Star Wars Standalone Film (Dir: Gareth Edwards)

The biggest issue is that people still think of Star Wars with many years between each film. They need to stop thinking like that and start thinking like the Marvel model where we got two movies a year leading up to the Avengers film...

That's where they are headed with all this... If they do any straight to video stuff, it will be more kiddie type stuff that appeals to the much younger demo.

I can't wait... Bring it all on! Films, BluRays, tv series... I'm ready for some fresh Star Wars again.

Jason

 

[Michael Bergeron]

re: Star Wars Standalone Film (Dir: Gareth Edwards)

The biggest issue is that people still think of Star Wars with many years between each film. They need to stop thinking like that and start thinking like the Marvel model where we got two movies a year leading up to the Avengers film...

I totally understand that but to be honest, just myself personally, I was all "superhero'd out" by the time Avengers came along. It was just too much.

 

[rodneyfaile]

re: Star Wars Standalone Film (Dir: Gareth Edwards)

Remember the old Marvel vs Capcom games? Since Disney owns Star Wars and Marvel now, I wonder if we could see a Marvel vs Star Wars game. I'd like to see Magneto fight Vader.

 

[Too Much Garlic]

re: Star Wars Standalone Film (Dir: Gareth Edwards)

I'm still hoping for a Star Wars star fighter game. TIE's, X-Wings, you name it... it's about time with the new consoles and the new graphics and engines... we need something like that. I need something like that.

 

[aeonpulse]

re: Star Wars Standalone Film (Dir: Gareth Edwards)

I'm still hoping for a Star Wars star fighter game. TIE's, X-Wings, you name it... it's about time with the new consoles and the new graphics and engines... we need something like that. I need something like that.

I'd be happy with an X-Wing vs Tie Fighter remake. I can't count how many hours I spent playing that.