Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details

[TheMechanic]

I just want to know if the Prometheus crew wear patches on their uniforms. He he he.

Loving the cast though. Idris Elba one heck of an actor. Don't see enough of him.

 

[Larry Young]

Secondly, maybe everyone here will shut up about how they think the film looks.

Good luck with that one.

 

[Jedi2016]

Hehe..

 

[crabra comander]

Sorry just wanted to add that Noomi Rapace should have my babies

 

[Jathoris]

Not to mention that 'blonde guy' can act too (they all can). Go watch Hunger and tell me if that one, single-shot, un-touched 16 minute dialogue scene between the two actors does not blow your mind. I hadn't seen anything of the like in years and it was great to see two people just act and do dialogue without their work being cut and hacked all over the place. They only had 4 takes of the entire scene. While the movie isn't for everyone, the scene itself is pretty remarkable. I think the cast is great and i'm looking forward to seeing what eventually comes of all of this.

 

[Jedi2016]

Not to mention that 'blonde guy' can act too (they all can). Go watch Hunger and tell me if that one, single-shot, un-touched 16 minute dialogue scene between the two actors does not blow your mind. I hadn't seen anything of the like in years and it was great to see two people just act and do dialogue without their work being cut and hacked all over the place. They only had 4 takes of the entire scene. While the movie isn't for everyone, the scene itself is pretty remarkable.

They've got it on Netflix.. think I'll watch it tonight. I appreciate talent when it's used effectively.

 

[Colin Droidmilk]

Not to mention that 'blonde guy' can act too (they all can). .

Well, thank ****** for that. Because having actors who can act is not a given with a Scott release any more.

 

[Colin Droidmilk]

I suspect most of us know better than to judge a film based on one badly art-directed magazine cover.

Please understand, I respect your right to express an opinion. I just think the "too pretty" argument is kinda silly.

But, you know, that's just my opinion.

Here we go yet again. "Judging a film". I wasn't judging the film, I was judging the sodding photo, from which I drew a fear of a repeat of casting disasters previously perpetrated by Scott, a fear reasonably formed by the extreme prettiness of the actors, yes. Meanwhile, I've also said the trailer looks good. I'm still waiting for you 'pre-judging' accusers to slap me down for praising that trailer, which, to you guys, must equate with praising the film before I've seen it, which equates with judging the film before I've seen it, which equates with heinous crime number 1 around here.

Now, that photo. Badly art-directed magazine cover or not, it's a piece of major pre-release imagery presumably approved of by the film makers. Is it beyond the wit of man to ensure that the first high profile publicity image for a new Alien movie directed by Ridley Scott is an image that generates the excitement one would hope from such a project, and not one that instantly puts one in mind of Lost in Space and underwear catalogues?

I think a thread needs starting on the whole question of why it's OK on this board to anticipate good things on viewing pre-release material, but why it's bad behaviour to fear bad things when viewing it. Because that's what we're doing here, either hoping for the good or fearing the bad, neither of which is pre-judgment of the whole completed film. If one thinks the latter is pre-judgement of the whole completed film, then one must accept that the former is too, and condemn too those who indulge in it, by which point there'd be just about ZERO point in any thread anticipating film releases.

(PS Carson, I do love you, you know. Despite these little contretemps from time to time, lol. )

 

[Larry Young]

I think a thread needs starting on the whole question of why it's OK on this board to anticipate good things on viewing pre-release material, but why it's bad behaviour to fear bad things when viewing it.

You need a whole thread to explain a quite common quirk of human nature? That most folks prefer positive, upbeat people at the cocktail party? Nobody talks to Debby Downer.

 

[Jedi2016]

Now, that photo. Badly art-directed magazine cover or not, it's a piece of major pre-release imagery presumably approved of by the film makers. Is it beyond the wit of man to ensure that the first high profile publicity image for a new Alien movie directed by Ridley Scott is an image that generates the excitement one would hope from such a project, and not one that instantly puts one in mind of Lost in Space and underwear catalogues?

I still think you're reading too much into it. That picture wasn't meant for people like us. It was meant for Joe Consumer who didn't even know the film was being made before that article was released, doesn't know jack s**t about filmmaking, and doesn't care what it looks like. It's not an advertisement for the film, and it's not meant to be.

Now, in terms of the actors, I don't particularly care what they look like as long as they can do the job, and be the characters that they need to be. Of the three people in that photo, the only one that concerns me is jock-boy on the left. I don't have a clue who that is, and I haven't seen any of his work before.

Of the rest of the main cast, we've got Charlize Theron, Idris Elba, Noomi Rapace, and Michael Fassbender. Of those, the only one I haven't seen before is Noomi Rapace, but she appears to come highly recommended, and I want to catch up on some of her work before the film releases (probably the Millennium series). The others have all proven their acting ability in other films, especially Theron and Fassbender. I haven't seen that much of Idris Elba's work, but he's been recognized and nominated for several awards, and I'm looking forward to seeing what he does here.

 

[SSGT Kitten]

I think it is all still too preliminary to judge the film based on one picture and a pulled trailer. I say that because I've seen some fine actors (like Ewan McGregor and Natalie Portman in the SW prequels) ruined by bad direction and I've seen some actors I would have thought terrible for the role (Adrian Brody in Predators) do a great job. The publicity photo is clearly mainstream Hollywood. Ridley Scott, whatever his recent work, has enough pull to do what he wants with his movie. It could be great, it could be terrible. I want it to be good; I'm not going to let one picture ruin it.

But if this turns out like GI JOE someone needs to get burned for it.

Charlie

 

[silverskyes402]

I just want to know if the Prometheus crew wear patches on their uniforms. He he he.

Loving the cast though. Idris Elba one heck of an actor. Don't see enough of him.

Yup, there are patches, on the spacesuits as well, some witha very familiar logo on them

 

[SSGT Kitten]

I went over to teasertrailer.com and checked out some stuff for Prometheus. Specifically:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-onD1SmzgB...AEQ/6D_rEt46-lA/s1600/Prometheus_movie_04.jpg

Now, I can't say I'm a super huge fan of the new suits, but I can see some Moebius inspiration there. But! The guy piloting the ship with the leather jacket? THAT is an Alien costume!

I could believe that these blue suits are actually high-tech, alpha grade equipment. Even though it's 30 years later, what we see in ALIEN is probably some old style, super outdated gear. I mean really, they were space truckers. Why bother spending money on expensive stuff the crew will never even use? And I'm sure some people will say, but it's a space ship, they'd have to have good space suits. I spent 3 years on submarines in the US Navy. We didn't have life boats. Not even the little inflatable ones.

Charlie

 

[Robiwon]

I am looking forward to this. I'm not expecting it to be the be all/end all of scifi movies though. Some will love it, some will hate it. It has to be made to pander to the general public as well, not just the loyal group of ALIEN lovers. Yes, I suspect there will be more than enough to satisfy the Twilight crowd of viewers like so many movies and TV shows of late have done. But I really think (or hope) that it plays well to the same type of crowd that was around in 1979 and those who have followed.

The one thing I hope the new movie doesn't do is try too hard to tie into ALIEN, like having Wayland Utani plastered on everything. Subtle would be better.

I hope the movie scares the crap out of me like the original, but then again, in '79 I was only 12!

Carry on....

 

[ghostryder]

I don't need to see Alien and Aliens again - Alien 3 gave us one creature against a group (again), and Alien 4 gave us many creatures against a group with guns (again), and the AvP movies gave us eye cancer. (I used to say the later Alien movies were like pizza, even when they're bad they're good, but then Requiem came out, so...). Anyway, THAT story, the 10 Little Indians story - has been told. So in a lot of ways I'm looking forward to something new in this universe. Knowing how incredibly hard it is to get a movie greenlit these days, hopefully there had to be something special in that script to get it made.

I think one of the things that made the first two films so great to me was the way they hinted that they were both part of a larger world seen just off screen (Blade Runner as well) - in other words they created a really rich universe for themselves - and a large sandbox to tell stories in. And here's where I personally am torn: for me the above applies to the human element - I want to know more about Weyland-Yutani, I want to see more Colonial Marines on an adventure, I want who and what those big guns on the Sulaco were made to fire at - I want to see C-Beams glitter - BUT, the Alien story? The Space Jockeys, Facehuggers, Chestbursters, and Xenomorphs - until I see this film, I DO think in some cases mystery is better then knowledge. But who knows, I've got an open mind, I've got faith, I've been burned before, but maybe I'll be surprised.

Fingers crossed.

 

[Larry Young]

I will eat Ridley's gruel and I will love it, and then complain to my wife that I have better spacesuits in my office.

 

[Jedi2016]

Now, I can't say I'm a super huge fan of the new suits, but I can see some Moebius inspiration there. But! The guy piloting the ship with the leather jacket? THAT is an Alien costume!

I could believe that these blue suits are actually high-tech, alpha grade equipment. Even though it's 30 years later, what we see in ALIEN is probably some old style, super outdated gear. I mean really, they were space truckers. Why bother spending money on expensive stuff the crew will never even use?

I've brought this up a few times.. we don't know the reasons behind the suits or what they signify. The fact that Elba's character is wearing the "traditional" space trucker outfit tells me there's some story element involved that we're not privy to. Which makes the complaining even more pointless.

I think it's safe to assume that the guys in the suits are not space truckers. Either government or high-level corporate (more likely both, considering WY's reputation).

I mean, they brought an android along.. those don't come cheap. Ever wonder why we saw so few of them later on? One was on a top-priority, spare-no-expense corporate mission, the other was a high-level military operation. And you don't think Call was a consumer model, do you? There's never been any indication that androids were commonplace, especially outside of high-level corporate or government use. Quite the opposite, in fact. The fact that they've brought one along this time means this mission is a really big deal.

Way too many unknowns to be complaining, IMO.

 

[CutThumb]

I have to agree with alienscollection.com post "I don't need to see Alien and Aliens again - Alien 3 gave us one creature against a group (again), and Alien 4 gave us many creatures against a group with guns (again, so...)etc ."
Maybe its because I've been going to the cinema for decades now but its pretty rare now that I get thrilled by a film these days. There are the odd exceptions, but I can virtually guess, beat for beat, where these films are going, particularly the big blockbusters. Its usually because, as Willie said ,the sequels (or remakes) just take the elements that the studios believed made the first a success but just go "make it bigger, louder, but more of the same". It gets very boring, very quickly.
I kind of look at Prometheus in two minds. I believe it will radically change our ideas about the mystery behind the Alien/Space Jockey origins substantially because it will actually ,for the first time ,describe it. Part of me welcomes this because I WANT to be surprised by the story because in about three decades of following the films, graphic novels and various discussions I've yet to see any that really do justice to all the speculation. Whether or not I like this premise, well, lets wait for the film to come out.
I don't believe Ridley or Fox are completely daft either. They know exactly how many people really loved "Alien" for the "Gothic Horror on a Spaceship" it was and I truely believe they don't wish to "alienate" that fan base by altering it substantially.
The trailer told me alot of things straight away. First the art direction is spot on and visually this film will absolutely BE in the same universe. The set designs say that Ridley has kept that same haunting Gigerish vision of a biomechanical civilization that was so distinctly otherworldly in "Alien". I am heartened that they have most definitely kept those elements in it ,like the derelict and the space jockey and obviously hugely expanded on it. That one minute of grainy trailer did more to impress me than anything I've seen or read about the entire project. This is a hugely costly film for FOX. They have let Ridley build some massive sets and shoot a substantial amount of footage, enough to allow two possible ratings version to be made. That alone tells me this film will be viserally gripping at the least.
I think Ridley will present a brilliantly original and macarbe take on the whole "Chariots of the Gods " premise that will be visually stunning. I am hoping the storyline will be strong enough to support it and the original film to the extent that I might actually like and be surprised by it. Lets be honest, what have we got to loose?

PS. The whole photo debate needs a bit of clarity. Therefore I attatch this piece, which explains why the raw footage looks like it does.
"Roger Christian, art director on the first Alien, speculated that the film would be shot in 3-D, which was eventually confirmed by Ridley Scott. Since 3-D films need high lighting levels on set, the hallmark atmosphere of the Alien films with darkness and shadows will be added in post-production through grading processes, while the 3-D equipment will be based on post-Avatar technology."

 

[DAVIDYR1]

Love what I'm seeing, everything looks pretty darn cool and I can't wait to see it!

That said, assuming this follows the original cut of ALIEN...do you think that victims will be transformed into alien eggs?
I always found that pretty cool and creepy...just wondering about that story line and if it's going to be in any way part of this flick.

David

 

[Jedi2016]

You're assuming that we're going to see the classic Alien at all. I don't think we will. I think that's one of the reasons why the studio keeps saying this isn't an "Alien" film.