Revolution

Man, they managed to find a lot of flint lock rifles that work 15 years into the future!


Ok. I haven't watched this, but can you clear something up for me?

Flintlock rifles work...but cased ammunition doesn't? Or is it just that nobody has much ammo for modern firearms?

'Cause if it's that you can use a flintlock but you can't use a modern firearm (which, really, isn't all that modern) then I'm gonna stay checked out of this one.
 
Kerr Avon said:
Missed it last night and Hulu doesn't have the series.. ugh.

You can stream it directly from NBC.com without commercials.

Flintlock rifles work...but cased ammunition doesn't? Or is it just that nobody has much ammo for modern firearms?
No it's just that after 15 years there's very little cased ammo left. And making regular black powder and casting lead shot is a lot easier than trying to manufacture smokeless powder and primers.

One thing that almost every apocalypse show seems to ignore when it comes to firearms is the old .22 rimfire. You can buy a box of 500 rounds for like $20. Most people who own a .22 probably own thousands and thousands of rounds. It might not be big and bad and cool looking, but it can still kill you dead. It's also much quieter than a full size rifle and won't attract as much attention.

I'll keep watching b/c I like the genre and the getting the power back on side of the story is interesting. But Charlie's whining almost had me turning it off last night.

And the Shawshank tunnel idea? Really? I thought Miles was supposed to be smart.

In fact, now that I think about it, everything about that whole rebel base thing was just ridiculous. Somehow the injured soldiers manage to travel 5 miles back to the restaurant, but are somehow too bad off to leave once they realize (or are informed by Miles b/c they are too stupid to figure it out on their own) that the militia will be coming.
 
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Anyone notice the mall
was called 'Lone Pine Mall'? :lol

I finally figured out what's been bothering me about this show. Not only did electricity disappear, but apparently all knowledge of anything went as well.

It's like no one knows how to make clothes (except maybe the militia) and the afore mentioned steam powered machines.

Oh, and the macguffin pendant I still have a HUGE problem with it doing what it does.
 
I tried and tried to get my wifes iphone to have a static squigly display as it turned off and I couldn't get it to do that. I don't know, but I'm thinking there was a bit of hijinx going on with that iphone scene.

My 11 year old son loves the show so I'll continue to watch it with him and try to bite my tongue.
 
You don't even know what it really does.

Except that the idea it can provide electricity, to a computer, that even if it's plausible, and the other computer they're chatting with has another pendant...there's still a gap between the two computers where there's the void!
 
That's an assumption. You don't know what is causing electricity to stop working. The pendant doesn't definitively provide electricity to anything, it may simply counteract the effect suppressing electrical activity. There are multiple pendants, owned by multiple people so each one at both ends of the communication have their own. There's nothing suggesting that radio transmission is being suppressed as well, no radios work without the pendant only, so communication between the two is possible.
 
That's an assumption. You don't know what is causing electricity to stop working. The pendant doesn't definitively provide electricity to anything, it may simply counteract the effect suppressing electrical activity. There are multiple pendants, owned by multiple people so each one at both ends of the communication have their own. There's nothing suggesting that radio transmission is being suppressed as well, no radios work without the pendant only, so communication between the two is possible.

Right, which means someone would have to have a pendant (or a slew of them?) At the local power plant to keep those generators going for whenever somone at their local farmhouse decides to power up their TRS-80 and BBS to whomever they talk to.

Not impossible, but high improbible since I would think the militia would discover these places rather quickly.
 
I'm pretty sure they have their own localized power source at the computer generating electricity, not relying on power stations that would have been shut down, transmission lines down, etc.

Not impossible, but high improbible since I would think the militia would discover these places rather quickly.

The militia would have to search everywhere, and besides, they don't know they need to look for these people. At least not widely.
 
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The militia would have to search everywhere, and besides, they don't know they need to look for these people. At least not widely.

Just based on the end of episode 2, Someone knows to look for these people. But it is still not identified who. Grace looked frightened, but also seemed to recognize this person.
 
Just based on the end of episode 2, Someone knows to look for these people. But it is still not identified who. Grace looked frightened, but also seemed to recognize this person.

Yeah, which is why I said 'widely' It seems like someone knows about the pendants, but it's not widespread knowledge that they exist, what they do, or who has them.
 
I'm actually sitting here now watching episode 2.. I'm into it.. Seems pretty cool.. Definitely a lot more hints etc than LOST etc.. Interesting in seeing the behind story of Miles and Monroe.. The fall out, differences etc..
 
Yeah, which is why I said 'widely' It seems like someone knows about the pendants, but it's not widespread knowledge that they exist, what they do, or who has them.

At first glance.....

they definitely seem to provide some type of wireless power. Like some kind of generator w/Wifi. Just from that last episode alone....


All those devices turned on. The discman, the iphone. Do the devices turn on randomly? Do they only work at a specific time of day, only in direct sunlight, while sitting on wooden desks? Why did Charlie's dad have one? Did he realize it turned on the power? Does it really turn on the power, or was their some other conductor? A person or thing nearby that hasn't been exposed yet?


All questions I have. And would like to know who is the person whom....well, abducted Grace? My biggest questions don't really revolve around Charlie. I wanna know about the devices, and who took Grace Jones. The Militia is interesting, but for me, I don't care as much about that story. It has already happened, it appears Miles and Monroe do not like each other. I don't care why. I don't like the story moving sideways, as in all the LOST-esque cut scenes.
 
Got a LOST / Jericho feel.. Definitely wanting to see more as I'm fencing with it at present, but it's got me questioning..
 
LOST / Jericho feel is definitely not a good thing - and I get the same vibe/fears.

LOST = Ended STUPID
Jericho = Ended waay too early

:(

-Gary
 
The story about the militia and why Miles left it are interesting along with who is suppressing electricity and how. But this show is so full of plot/science holes. Some of the highlights just off the top of my head:
  • Where is all the pre-electricity technology? Steam, wind, water power.
  • The guy who I guess helped found Monroe's militia: "Boo hoo, nobody makes metallic cartridge ammo any more so we have to use black powder". Did all the chemists die off? Smokeless powder and metallic cartridges were developed in the 1800's. They might not be as precise and you might not have clad bullets, but it would still be better than black powder. Also, I was not paying attention, but the only screenshot I can find from the show shows a guy in the background with a percussion cap weapon. We can't make modern ammo, but we can make percussion caps with something similar to fulminate of mercury?
  • Those pendants somehow give off electricity. No way would that CD player or iPhone work with 15 year old batteries.
  • Grace talks with someone on her computer. How? I distinctly heard a modem handshake the first time she did it. The phone company switching equipment would need electricity too. Every winter the news has stories about storms knocking out power and phone lines. Did she wire the modem to a sat phone?
  • Why doesn't anybody ever take out the officers when they shoot at the bad guys? I know those guys are needed for the story, but on this weeks episode when the guy got up on the roof my first thought was, "Head shot that fool." Instead he shot a no-name in the chest.
  • How do you even stop electricity from working? If you stop electrons from moving or slow them down then everything will literally break down.

And I kept staring at the iPhone waiting for them to screw up and have it connect to wifi or 4G.
 
Side question:

The swords with the individual rings around each finger - were those common when swords were forged? I would think something like that with the right perry, you'd wind up with 4 broken fingers easily, yet it seems everyone has swords with this kind of hilt.
 
Side question:

The swords with the individual rings around each finger - were those common when swords were forged? I would think something like that with the right perry, you'd wind up with 4 broken fingers easily, yet it seems everyone has swords with this kind of hilt.


I laughed when I saw the bar fight scene, said to the missus, " Wouldn't be fraking around with these machete things, I'd be getting the best Samurai or Katana sword I can find.."
 
Side question:

The swords with the individual rings around each finger - were those common when swords were forged? I would think something like that with the right perry, you'd wind up with 4 broken fingers easily, yet it seems everyone has swords with this kind of hilt.

The closest thing to knuckle duster hilted swords were rapiers, small swords, most sabers, and Sottish basket hilted broadswords; they all had some sort of protection for the hand consisting of one or more metal bars extending the top of the hilt to the pommel with the Scottish broadswords (often mistakenly referred to as claymores) having and elaborate basket like cover for the hand. However, no one ever came up with a knuckle duster hilt although there are examples of WW I trench knives with kuckle dusters on them but no, no swords.
 
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