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Limited Run Resin Cast Thermoptic Pistol - Ghost In The Shell - Screen Accurate!

Discussion in 'Project Runs' started by tmax, Dec 20, 2018.

  1. tmax

    tmax Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    On a recent trip back to New Zealand, I made some very interesting industry connections that have allowed us to offer this incredibly accurate Thermoptic Pistol, as used by Major played by Scarlet Johansen in the Weta produced Ghost In The Shell.

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    While I can't name names, etc, what I can tell you is that we have had access to some pretty incredible reference material, resulting in what we believe will be the most accurate replica available. Construction will utilise similar techniques used to create the original prop. The master will be 3D printed in New Zealand on a high-resolution SLA resin printer, then prepped for molding. Molding and casting will also be done in New Zealand by a professional prop maker, resulting in a mixture of clear and white resin parts. These castings will then be sent to my workshop in Canada where we will prep, paint and assemble the finished pistols, ready for shipping.

    Our design work begun in August this year and here is our final design.

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    There are 3 changes that will be made by hand to the resin master...
    - adjust front and rear sights
    - create beveled edge on front of rail plate
    - create more curve on the front of the grip shell (at the bottom of the grip)

    We printed a test-kit from a slightly earlier version of the design on a standard PLA printer to ensure the parts will work for molding. We are very happy with how this test-kit turned out.

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    The pistols will have a working trigger, with a visible internal spring like the original prop.

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    The replica will have a removable mag, held in place with magnets.

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    The mag will be hollow with a sliding top panel. This is so we can ship the replicas with empty mags so buyers can add their own dummy rounds, eliminating the concerns of sending "ammunition" through customs. The hollow mag fits 9mm rounds which will diagonally stack in the mag, as they would in a real Glock 17. There will be a spring (or similar) in the bottom of the mag to securely hold the bullets in place.

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    When comparing our test-print to a real Glock 17, the dimensions are spot on. Our rear outer shell even fits perfectly over the Glock receiver.

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    Time frame:
    Dec - final design signed off - Complete
    Jan - resin master printed and molds made
    Feb - casting
    March/April - finishing work
    April/May - shipping

    As you can appreciate, while we feel confident with this timeline, factors outside of our control may cause us to have to adjust it to suit. We will of course keep everyone posted as things progress. Been around here long enough to understand the value of communication. ;)


    Pricing:
    Pricing these has been quite the trick due to the numerous factors involved. So much time has already been spent on this prop it's definitely more a labour of love than anything! That said...

    $340 plus $25 shipping (worldwide)
    $200 deposit up front to secure your place. The remainder to be paid once the replicas are ready to ship
    Paypal - tarrymortlock@gmal.com Please include your RPF name and "Thermoptic Pistol Deposit" in the details

    Welcome aboard! (y)

    Cheers,
    T.

    The list:
    1. Sean - deposit paid
    2. RhinoActual - deposit paid
    3. el toro - deposit paid
    4. Max Jenius - deposit paid
    5.
     
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  2. Sean

    Sean Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    In like Flynn bro.
     
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  3. Sean

    Sean Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Deposit paid.
     
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  4. RhinoActual

    RhinoActual Well-Known Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Yeah I am in.
     
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  5. el toro

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    I've been waiting for this. Definitely in.
     
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  6. mtrixman

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    Count me in!
     
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  7. RhinoActual

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    deposit sent
     
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  8. el toro

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    Is there a PayPal address to send the deposit to?
     
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  9. Sean

    Sean Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    There was I thought. You can find It In his necro knife thread
     
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  10. Sean

    Sean Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Here you go my friend
    tarrymortlock@gmail.com
     
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  11. tmax

    tmax Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Hey guys. Yeah sorry, Paypal info now added.

    Sean and RhinoActual Deposit received with thanks. :)

    mtrixman and el toro Once deposit is paid, you're on the list. (y)
     
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  12. Yaan

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    I am interested, but waiting for results on the casting of the clear parts.
     
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  13. el toro

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  14. Sean

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    Your very welcome my friend
     
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  15. Jedisushi

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    This looks so great. Are you planning to use any metal parts (e.g. the “barrel” and details on the grip)?
     
  16. tmax

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    Deposit received. (y)
     
  17. tmax

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    This is something we have discussed. One of the changes to the above model design is the barrel. Rather than just have a barrel tip glued to the front of the gun, we plan to have a 80mm long barrel that inserts into the front of the receiver. We have discussed having these barrels machined aluminium, but that would push costs over the top. So we will cast them in resin and they will be painted to suit. However, we are still open to the idea if someone here wants to make this possible. Obviously we will have a resin master they can work from. It would certainly be a very cool addition! (y)

    Without going too far down an obvious rabbit hole, our replica will differ from previous offerings of this prop in a variety of ways. Firstly, we will aim to replicate the same transparency of the clear parts as the original prop, rather than a high-gloss finish, which looks cool, but is inaccurate. Also the "metal" parts will not be chrome finished, but rather a more brushed aluminium finish, as per the original. These are just some of the many differences, but pertinent to this conversation. :)
     
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  18. dontfeedmyego

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    If only it’d make it Ozs customs :(
     
  19. eethan

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    I would also be interested but would need to see the transparent casts first. this is such a tricky prop and I'm a very picky person. speaking of picky, since you are mentioning you had access to great references, were those references a different gun that we don't know of? you are showing the one picture from the side that we know and there are a lot of differences from your model, especially in the grip area. Just curious if you had access to a different gun and the one from this picture is actually a placeholder for an exhibition or something.
     
  20. tmax

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    Oh man I don’t envy you Aussies! Most my collection would never have made it! :confused:
     
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  21. tmax

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    Thanks for the question. I believe the above prop was a one of a few screen-used props. We definitely know there were several made and yes there are subtle differences between this one and the other references we have. One even has silver rivets which we considered offering as an option. However, no doubt collectors will be looking for something close to the prop as it appears on screen, rather than a variant production made piece. So we opted to exclude these variations.

    Regarding accuracy, this is always a tricky (and sometimes touchy) subject as often beauty is in the eye of the beholder. As mentioned the above model is not the final version and tweaks included getting that blimmin grip line right, which I assume you are referring to. Of course, while our goal is to make this offering as accurate as possible, I’m sure it won’t be a 100% perfect copy of the original. Perhaps I need to change this threads title to “as close to screen accurate as we can make it” :p ;)

    We are more than confident that this will be by far the closest replica available to date. We will post pics of the finished design once completed and rendered. We’ll also post pics of the SLA printed model and of course clear resin parts as soon as we have them in hand.

    Just an FYI they will be tinted and frosted clear resin pieces, degassed then cured in a pressure pot. (y)
     
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  22. faust1103

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    Hi,

    I would be interested in joining in this run as well.

    Just two more questions:

    What will be the approx. weight of this gun (without bullets)?
    Will you be sending theses guns from Canada to the rest of the world then?

    Many thanks.
     
  23. tmax

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    Hmmm, good question reg weight. To be honest I’m not sure I can answer this with any accuracy until we have it in hand. We have a solid resin Glock (used for early development), but being solid will be far heavier as our replica is mostly hollow. The closest I have is the test kit, but being 3D printed it will be substantially lighter than what the cast resin parts will be. So I’m not really able to answer that just yet. But let me know if you’d like the weight of the test kit and I’ll weigh it when we get back (away for Christmas).

    Yes, final product will be shipped worldwide from Canada.
     
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  24. tmax

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    Something to add regarding eethan 's question... one of the problems we had to work out was how to remove the mag, being that the original prop has no mag release button. Because we didn't want to add a button we opted for magnets to hold the mag in place. Obviously these will need to be quite strong as the mag will be rather heavy when filled with rounds. Of course when the mag is empty, it would be very hard to remove from the grip and next to impossible in it's current design, without shoving something in there to wrench it out. The reference material we have show that other versions included a thumb-tab for mag removal, which we have added to our model. We concluded that the prop on display (shown above) has the mag glued in place (thus no need for the thumb-tab) but we prefer to have our mag removable.

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  25. Max Jenius

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    Interested and deposit sent!
     
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  26. tmax

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    Got it. Thanks mate!
     
  27. Yaan

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    Nice to hear the clear parts are being (lightly?) tinted and frosted, this will come close to the original. I would love to see some metal parts too! A metal barrel that size should not be that expensive though...
     
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  28. tmax

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    Yes, “lightly” is the plan. Metal would be great, I agree. If someone is keen to machine some barrels for this run that would be awesome. ;)
     
  29. tmax

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    OP updated with final design renders.

    There are 3 changes that will be made by hand to the resin master...
    - adjust front and rear sights
    - create beveled edge on front of rail plate
    - create more curve on the front of the grip shell (at the bottom of the grip)
     
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  30. eethan

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    hey, would you mind posting at least one ref from the side of the gun version you reproduced? It's a bit weird I think for people to buy a replica of a gun they never saw. :)
     
  31. tmax

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    Sorry if I haven’t been clear, but the goal here is to produce something very close to the screen-used prop, not a production made variant. So while our other reference material has been very helpful in confirming details, we aren’t producing anything different than the formentioned. While the finished 3D model is close, there are some tweaks to make which will be made to the resin master (described above). We will of course keep this post updated as we progress so those interested will see exactly what they are getting. Hope that clarifies things.
     
  32. tmax

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    Update:
    Slight change of plan, we made the above changes to the 3D model itself prior to printing the master.

    Front sight, rear sights and rail plate...

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    And we rounded out the bottom of the grip shell...

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    Any further tweaks will be done to the printed resin master.
     
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  33. tmax

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    Major has a black pistol which is almost identical to the white one...

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    Decided to put the test print to good use...

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  34. Yaan

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    Looks nice! I think it would really benefit from a metal barrel.
     
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  35. Sean

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    Stick a real one In It. Lol


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    90 bucks Ebay and a hack Saw
     
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  36. dmpsk8

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    My interest in this keeps growing. May have to jump on board. Great work so far.
     

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