Replacement for Poly Scale paints (Reefer White etc..)?

Discussion in 'Studio Scale Models' started by blakeh1, Mar 27, 2014.

  1. blakeh1

    blakeh1 Sr Member

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    Maybe this is old news around here, but I didn't see anything in searching.


    There was an article in Model Railroader a few issues back covering different paint types. And who would know better about colors originally used for model railroad stuff. At any rate here is what had to say on replacing those discontinued colors...


    MicroMark has a line called MicroLux created for them by Vallejo. It features 28 colors divided into two groups. The "Top 10" colors (Reefer White, Aged Concrete, and Engine Black among others) are sold in 2 oz bottles with the Microlux branding. The remaining 18 are offered in 1/2 ounce eye-drop-style bottles with a Acrylicos Vallejo Air label.

    (Here's the important part ) All of the colors match the discontinued Poly Scale line

    The paint can be airbrushed straight from the bottle without thinning, but can be thinned with alcohol or water and dry to a flat finish

    Apparently they are only available through direct sales from MicroMark though


    Here's Refer White
    MicroLux Acrylic Paint, Reefer White, 2 Ounces


    Grimy Black
    MicroLux Acrylic Paint, Grimy Black, 2 Ounces


    Roof Red
    MicroLux Acrylic Paint, Roof Red, 2 Ounces




    Here's the rest of the line
    MicroLux Paints
    Vallejo Paints
     
  2. 3d-builder

    3d-builder Sr Member

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    Yup saw this in the latest micro-mark catalog .........thanks for sharing.
     
  3. MonsieurTox

    MonsieurTox Master Member

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    Thanks for sharing !
     
  4. Rats

    Rats Sr Member

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    So Polly Scale acrylics gone as well as Floquil?
    My local supplier still has plenty of Polly Scale colours.
     
  5. Duncanator

    Duncanator Well-Known Member

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    Floquil was bought by Testors who still make those colors under the their name now.
     
  6. robn1

    robn1 Master Member

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  7. Carnet

    Carnet Well-Known Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Maybe some of you guys already know about this, but there is a guy that has just released an enamel paint collection that is a full replication of the Floquil colors used by ILM. I am by no means any type of authority in this area, but he seems like he put quite a lot of work into getting them right, the paints look really good...but again, I have no idea. Maybe some of the more seasoned members around here could weigh in.

    He doesn't currently have a storefront or website. You can check it out on Facebook.

    The name of the paints is Archive-X, just type that into the search field in Facebook.
     
  8. Davy Jones

    Davy Jones Well-Known Member

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    The work he has done is fantastic!
     
  9. marvin

    marvin Well-Known Member

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    Yep certainly is. Guy has put in a LOT of work to get it right and if you check the Facebook page you'll see some amazing examples of painted models using his line. Check out the results and decide for yourself.
     
  10. Carnet

    Carnet Well-Known Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    My paint set should be here by the end of the week.
     
  11. kamandi

    kamandi Active Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    I haven't used enamel paint in years for all the common reasons - clogging, thickness, fills detail, tougher to correct mistakes, etc...

    So it there a reason Archive X went with enamel rather than lacquer? Is there a secret to using enamels and I missed a memo?
     
  12. Carnet

    Carnet Well-Known Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    That would be a question for Guy, he is very accessible via his Facebook page. Just ask.
     
  13. Matte Painter

    Matte Painter New Member

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    Likely for true authenticity, as the original paints were enamel. The weathering techniques ILM used could then be replicated more accurately at the very least. I've certainly tried those more abrasive techniques with acrylics and they don't work well so I'm back using enamel as I find the finish much more resiliant.
     
  14. marvin

    marvin Well-Known Member

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    OK ask Guy on Facebook if you want the full answer:

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/1696820240623353/

    But what I know is this. Authenticity would mean lacquers. The Enamel line by Floquil wasn't available until close to end of production of Return of the Jedi. ILM used lacquers. So why do enamels? Cause you can't ship lacquers anywhere nowadays.

    What Guy did is painstakingly research the various hues (yes there's more hues than 1 per "color") of the Floquil lacquer line and reproduce them in enamels to get the best balance between properties and still being able to get the paint to the modeller.
     
  15. y3a

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    Look into Scalecoat and Scalecoat II paints. They also have micro pigments. I thin mine down with lacquer thinner for Brass steam loco models. You don't need primers. Scalecoat II is OK on plastic.
     
  16. Studio Kitbash

    Studio Kitbash Active Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Guy's paints just arrived and they are fantastic -- highly recommended. Be aware that if you order the Legacy Set (25 bottles + 5 free), they arrive most typically in two different boxes, on two different days of the week. So don't panic (like I did), just wait a few days, and they'll show up. Well worth the wait.

     
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  17. maxhebus

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    :D
    I did panic too when I've received the first box. I thought I had the order from someone else.
    My second box arrived a week later. That's funny when you know that the two boxes have been sent at the same time. Go figure. :D
    the paints are just gorgeous.


     
  18. sapper36

    sapper36 Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    So how much did the legacy collection cost?

     
  19. Studio Kitbash

    Studio Kitbash Active Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    The legacy set costs 300 British Pounds (shipping included), which at the time of purchase was equivalent to USD $409, so you're looking at $13.63 per bottle.

     
  20. Fusion

    Fusion Well-Known Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    That is quite an investment. What is the shelf life on these paints? And can you purchase replacements by the bottle if you run out of one?


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  21. sapper36

    sapper36 Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Thanks - That is pricy - Guess I'll be going another route for paint.

     
  22. Carnet

    Carnet Well-Known Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    10 bottle minimum for international orders.
     
  23. Studio Kitbash

    Studio Kitbash Active Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Shelf life of these paints is exactly 40 years... starting from May 25, 2017... ; )

     
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  24. Voodoocaster

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    I wonder if you need the complete legacy set.
    I think that the 3 primaries and the white, greys and weathering colours are sufficient,.,..at least for me that is.
    I am thinking 14 bottles max.
    Still pricy though for a small bottle of enamel paint.
    I wonder if colour maching these colours and mixing your own(in a laquer binder) is considered as some kind of "recasting":lol
    The pictures of projects on which these colours were used look very prommising.
    Guy(and his team?) did a great job i think.
     

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